Scholar4Truth Posted April 18, 2023 #101 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hawken said: So, the government knows best and doctors don't. Well, isn't that rich! There are many medicines that treat more than just one illness. As for your hero Biden. He first said if you get the covid vax, you won't get covid. But when people were getting it anyway. He changed his stance to it will reduce the chance to get it. If test really proved that HCQ doesn't work. There would be no need for the government to restrict people from getting the prescription. The doctors wouldn't prescribe it. N one one ever said you could not get Covid. The vaccine's purpose was to lessen your chances of getting it. That's has been a point since day one. And even if he did say it, it just shows he was misinformed and made an error/ God forbid he is human! Edited April 18, 2023 by Scholar4Truth 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 18, 2023 #102 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Hawken said: So, the government knows best and doctors don't. Well, isn't that rich! There are many medicines that treat more than just one illness. Who do you think informed the government and did the studies that resulted in the report? The medical field made the call. 1 hour ago, Hawken said: As for your hero Biden. He first said if you get the covid vax, you won't get covid. But when people were getting it anyway. He changed his stance to it will reduce the chance to get it. If test really proved that HCQ doesn't work. There would be no need for the government to restrict people from getting the prescription. The doctors wouldn't prescribe it. No not quite. He made a comment just like that and contradicted it. I don't think he's a hero, just next to Trump, almost anyone shines. HCQ does not work. You don't read well do you? It had to be restricted so people with Malaria and auto immune diseases could get the medicine they needed. Some total dumb asses decided they would take anything but what was actually going to fight Covid. Idiots. Do you realise it's also a higher risk of myocarditis than any Covid vaccines or Covid itself? And it simply doesn't work. You know what studies actually found? Adverse effects triple with HCQ. https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD013587.pub2/full Seriously, where do you get your information from? It's total garbage. Every single time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted April 18, 2023 #103 Share Posted April 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Scholar4Truth said: N one one ever said you could not get Covid. The vaccine's purpose was to lessen your chances of getting it. That's has been a point since day one. And even if he did say it, it just shows he was misinformed and made an error/ God forbid he is human! Can you name how many people in your community that has died from covid vs cancer? I brought up cancer before in another thread. In my community it has been zero. Yes, some were hospitalized but recovered from covid. But many have died from cancer. The point I'm making is covid isn't the bubonic plague of the 21st century that the media made it out to be. The media repeatedly kept giving the death numbers of covid (which is 1%) of 99% of people that recovered. Seems to me that they were using fear tactics. Always question the media and don't accept them as the gospel truth. It' all about money & ratings to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 18, 2023 #104 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Hawken said: Can you name how many people in your community that has died from covid vs cancer? I brought up cancer before in another thread. In my community it has been zero. Yes, some were hospitalized but recovered from covid. But many have died from cancer. The point I'm making is covid isn't the bubonic plague of the 21st century that the media made it out to be. The media repeatedly kept giving the death numbers of covid (which is 1%) of 99% of people that recovered. Seems to me that they were using fear tactics. Always question the media and don't accept them as the gospel truth. It' all about money & ratings to them. You're making stuff up. Just lying now. I've given you links to prove this wrong. No government or media source ever stated that the risk of death as higher than 1-2% They also all said NO vaccine is 100% effective. Go ahead and find one to support your narrative. Prove me wrong. You can't and know it. We have been down this path before. You failed. Why you continue to spread this known lie is an unexplained mystery. Why do you keep bringing cancer up? I don't think anyone but you understands what you are trying to get at. Edited April 18, 2023 by psyche101 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted April 18, 2023 #105 Share Posted April 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, psyche101 said: You're making stuff up. Just lying now. I've given you links to prove this wrong. No government or media source ever stated that the risk as higher than 1-2% They also all said NO vaccine is 100% effective. Go ahead and find one to support your narrative. Prove me wrong. You can't and know it. We have been down this path before. You failed. Why you continue to spread this known lie is an unexplained mystery. Here are the stats for your country on covid since 2020 to present. Pretty impressive numbers on recoveries. But be afraid because the government & media says so. Australia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 18, 2023 #106 Share Posted April 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hawken said: Can you name how many people in your community that has died from covid vs cancer? I brought up cancer before in another thread. In my community it has been zero. Yes, some were hospitalized but recovered from covid. But many have died from cancer. The point I'm making is covid isn't the bubonic plague of the 21st century that the media made it out to be. The media repeatedly kept giving the death numbers of covid (which is 1%) of 99% of people that recovered. Seems to me that they were using fear tactics. Always question the media and don't accept them as the gospel truth. It' all about money & ratings to them. I can name personally 4 friends who died from Covid, but of course for you that is not enough, but that does not change the fact people died. Where is the evidence death numbers were 1%? You telling me the other side were not using fear tactics? Let's see: 1. Those who got the vaccine will die within 5 years (Mike Yeadon former pfizer employee)- It's been three years and it did not occur. 2. We will be forced to have vaccine passports- They were for a short time but we abolished them 3. Mask will not away- Mask requirements have ended 4. Qurantines will never be lifted- They started to be lifted late 2021 and early 2022 So explain that I will wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted April 18, 2023 #107 Share Posted April 18, 2023 15 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Proving it to be a minnow virus, false numbers, unscientific processes, fake facts. A scam. This isn’t the place for your autobiography. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted April 18, 2023 #108 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Hawken said: So, the government knows best and doctors don't. Well, isn't that rich! There are many medicines that treat more than just one illness. As for your hero Biden. He first said if you get the covid vax, you won't get covid. But when people were getting it anyway. He changed his stance to it will reduce the chance to get it. If test really proved that HCQ doesn't work. There would be no need for the government to restrict people from getting the prescription. The doctors wouldn't prescribe it. Why are you bringing Biden into this? He must be living, rent free, in your head. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted April 18, 2023 #109 Share Posted April 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Scholar4Truth said: I can name personally 4 friends who died from Covid, but of course for you that is not enough, but that does not change the fact people died. Where is the evidence death numbers were 1%? You telling me the other side were not using fear tactics? Let's see: 1. Those who got the vaccine will die within 5 years (Mike Yeadon former pfizer employee)- It's been three years and it did not occur. 2. We will be forced to have vaccine passports- They were for a short time but we abolished them 3. Mask will not away- Mask requirements have ended 4. Qurantines will never be lifted- They started to be lifted late 2021 and early 2022 So explain that I will wait. The death/recovery numbers in the US on this link since 2020 to present. United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info) OK, you know 4 people that died from covid. How many from cancer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted April 18, 2023 #110 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: Why are you bringing Biden into this? He must be living, rent free, in your head. Just like Trump lives in yours I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 18, 2023 #111 Share Posted April 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hawken said: The death/recovery numbers in the US on this link since 2020 to present. United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info) OK, you know 4 people that died from covid. How many from cancer? Why do you keep bringing up cancer? focus on the issue at hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 18, 2023 #112 Share Posted April 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, Hawken said: Here are the stats for your country on covid since 2020 to present. Pretty impressive numbers on recoveries. But be afraid because the government & media says so. Australia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info) The government and media said 1.5% chance of death at worst. It's a little under that. But quite close. Have a look at the government website. Tell me if there's any disparities. There aren't. How about you prove the BS you have been producing and offer a link that says risk of death is higher than 1-2%. Cant can you. Because your lying about the numbers and fear factor. When it says the risk of death is 1-2% it means that 98-99% of people won't die. Are you capable of understanding that much? You are quoting anti vax misinformation. Not government or mainstream. And still none the wiser on your cancer issue. Makes zero sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted April 18, 2023 #113 Share Posted April 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Hawken said: Just like Trump lives in yours I guess. I mentioned whoever thatbis when? Seriously, is primary school jibes the best you have? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted April 18, 2023 #114 Share Posted April 18, 2023 So do you still believe that covid is the primary contributor in deaths with covid listed as cause of death? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted April 18, 2023 #115 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Feels like even the doom mongers here stating covid is some bad virus can't answer the question, is covid is the primary contributor in deaths with covid listed as cause of death? I mean the answer is a big fat no. Do they need some mental health support now that the narrative they claimed was true "because science", despite evidence to the contrary, is breaking down around their lies bunker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katniss Posted April 18, 2023 #116 Share Posted April 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Hawken said: Can you name how many people in your community that has died from covid vs cancer? I brought up cancer before in another thread. In my community it has been zero. Yes, some were hospitalized but recovered from covid. But many have died from cancer. The point I'm making is covid isn't the bubonic plague of the 21st century that the media made it out to be. The media repeatedly kept giving the death numbers of covid (which is 1%) of 99% of people that recovered. Seems to me that they were using fear tactics. Always question the media and don't accept them as the gospel truth. It' all about money & ratings to them. Yes you always bring that up and how many times have I told you cancer is not infectious and cause overloaded hospitals with patient care? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 18, 2023 #117 Share Posted April 18, 2023 4 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: So do you still believe that covid is the primary contributor in deaths with covid listed as cause of death? Already answered that question. If there are symptoms that are connected with Covid, they are written down as Covid being a cause. Its simple, again what is so hard to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 18, 2023 #118 Share Posted April 18, 2023 4 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Feels like even the doom mongers here stating covid is some bad virus can't answer the question, is covid is the primary contributor in deaths with covid listed as cause of death? I mean the answer is a big fat no. Do they need some mental health support now that the narrative they claimed was true "because science", despite evidence to the contrary, is breaking down around their lies bunker? Mental health support? so now your going back to personal attacks? I will have you know im mentally stable. I have addressed many of your points with sources that contradict your claims ie Switzerland banning the vaccine, which you lied about, they never banned it. So how about you address our points instead of running off with red-herrings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted April 18, 2023 #119 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Excess deaths in Australia last year, 5,000+% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 18, 2023 #120 Share Posted April 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Excess deaths in Australia last year, 5,000+% Where is your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted April 18, 2023 #121 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Do THEY need mental health support? Does not imply any individual. It means all of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 18, 2023 #122 Share Posted April 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Do THEY need mental health support? Does not imply any individual. It means all of you. Nope I do not need mental health support. But keep throwing jabs since you cannot defend your position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbenol Posted April 18, 2023 #123 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Excess deaths in Australia last year, 5,000+% It's 11% - but you're close. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 18, 2023 #124 Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 3:36 AM, Susanc241 said: As I suspect the next pandemic might happen way sooner than the century between the two last ones and we have better records of outcomes this time, things might be handled better. One can only hope. Unless there is very obvious cause for lockdowns, the government simply will not be capable of forcing compliance as things stand now. Of course, we are on track for a CBDC in the near future and once that is in effect the government will have total control without needing any other enforcement technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 19, 2023 #125 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, and-then said: Unless there is very obvious cause for lockdowns, the government simply will not be capable of forcing compliance as things stand now. Of course, we are on track for a CBDC in the near future and once that is in effect the government will have total control without needing any other enforcement technique. We had lockdowns for the Spanish Flu in 1918 and qurantines https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6861947 Department of the Navy: Precautions Against Influenza. https://open.library.ubc.ca/collections/bcnewspapers/xkelownarec/items/1.0180572#p1z-3r0f: Here is a Newspaper clipping that talks about lockdowns and closings. So spare us the conspiracy theories, you have not provided any evidence for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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