psyche101 Posted March 23, 2023 #276 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: I think your wrong the Stormy Daniels indication will happen, but that will just be one of multiple indications that will follow. JIMHO It's like Al Capone getting jailed on tax charges isn't it. A nasty criminal caught for the most minimal crime committed. Let's hope that slippery SOB doesn't throw someone else under a bus whilst he escapes justice yet again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted March 23, 2023 #277 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, el midgetron said: Trump is innocent until proven guilty just like you. If I accuse you of murdering puppies, do you require “exoneration”? Again so true. As I said Mueller didn't exonerate Trump. Trump exonerated Trump, hundreds of times on the news. So maybe he thought he needed exonerating. Not for me to say, others say he does not feel guilt, so maybe those puppies never phased him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 23, 2023 #278 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: It's like Al Capone getting jailed on tax charges isn't it. A nasty criminal caught for the most minimal crime committed. Let's hope that slippery SOB doesn't throw someone else under a bus whilst he escapes justice yet again. You just never know what Trump May do, one thing is for certain when his indictments come down they had better put him on Suicide watch! Edited March 23, 2023 by Grim Reaper 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 23, 2023 #279 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: LoL Is the other suit behind him Putin? Can't tell from here... .. Here is the other Suit behind him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSlim Posted March 23, 2023 #280 Share Posted March 23, 2023 8 hours ago, psyche101 said: LoL Is the other suit behind him Putin? Can't tell from here... .. The fact that he appears to be moving faster than molasses pouring out of a bottle is probably the funniest part of that meme. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted March 23, 2023 #281 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, F3SS said: Ma'am, that wasn't directed at you. My comment to you was under your quote box. Sheesh! Edit: We've talked enough here by now. Disagreements aside, do you really think I'm that unreasonable that I'd misconstrue what was clearly a story as an outburst or an insult? C'mon now. Even so, calling names is immature and thinking that politics is a line with left and right is also immature. It is a circle with all the extremists on the outside edge and everyone else inside the circle. No one agrees 100% with anyone else about anything. And the only reason you think there is a left and right is because you believe the lie that the U.S. politics is a two party system. The democrats/republicans want you to believe that lie so they can keep control of our government. It keeps people fighting amongst themselves over non-issues while congress and the senate vote in laws that give more money and power to the corporations and less to the citizens. How do you think the "corporations are people" came about? Because of bipartisan manipulation. So let go of your childish beliefs and start paying attention to who does what and who gets blamed. Follow the money, you will find that the big money pays both "sides". Edited March 23, 2023 by Desertrat56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted March 23, 2023 #282 Share Posted March 23, 2023 14 hours ago, F3SS said: dit: We've talked enough here by now. Disagreements aside, do you really think I'm that unreasonable that I'd misconstrue what was clearly a story as an outburst or an insult? C'mon now. I have no idea. As you can see, the "Left" comment triggered me. I get triggered, not a normally quiet, calm person. I apologise for taking something personal that wasn't meant to be personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 23, 2023 #283 Share Posted March 23, 2023 So no grand jury today. Maybe tomorrow. Plus Trump publishes "new" evidence. And Stormy hands over phone records. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-arrest-today-grand-jury-stormy-daniels-indictment-b2306365.html Quote Mr Trump posted a letter on his Truth Social platform on Wednesday night in which Michael Cohen told the Federal Election Commission that neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was involved in the payment to Ms Daniels. Fake? Exonerated? Quote Meanwhile, Ms Daniels took to Twitter to say that she had handed over phone records to her attorney on Wednesday and that the information was “gonna hurt” Mr Trump. And I wonder why neither of these things were included previously?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 23, 2023 #284 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/22/2023 at 3:26 AM, HSlim said: Any worse than taking the fifth over 400 times? I'd consider both to be wrong. Volunteering to testify, and then not saying anything, is, IMHO, as bad as refusing to testify at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSlim Posted March 23, 2023 #285 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DieChecker said: I'd consider both to be wrong. Volunteering to testify, and then not saying anything, is, IMHO, as bad as refusing to testify at all. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Hillary and I do believe her to be at least partially responsible for the events in Benghazi and I find her attempts to blame it on a Youtube video reprehensible. Voted against her in 2016. But, I think the 5th over 400 times in a single sitting (even after declaring that to be a mafia tactic) to be more indicative of guilt and a shadier tactic than claiming not to recall something. Edited March 23, 2023 by HSlim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 23, 2023 #286 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/18/2023 at 9:21 PM, MGB said: There were too many Lawyers involved as well as Trump himself and Stormy Daniels for him to deflect this away as "extortion." Lawyers don't deal in extortion payments. First it never happened, then it was "extortion." And if this is tied to campaign funds he could very well be convicted, otherwise who knows. And I know why he is back on Facebook, to get more rants out so his minions will save him before he gets banned again. And I bet he will be back on Twitter stat also for above said purpose. You see, the Donald has always used his wealth and Lawyers to bully and silence people. But the U.S and State Governments have unlimited resources and will not be silenced, so he has finally met his match, hence the attacks and deflections. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted March 23, 2023 #287 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Makes sense.. something happened between last week up until now. All we can do is wait and see though I'm sure all the pundits will continually gaslight their viewers into believing utter nonsense as usual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted March 24, 2023 #288 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) FTR, this is a deep fake video. "Precreated" Edited March 24, 2023 by acidhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted March 24, 2023 #289 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) On 3/22/2023 at 10:21 PM, Grim Reaper 6 said: I think your wrong the Stormy Daniels indication will happen, but that will just be one of multiple indications that will follow. JIMHO I’m just going to keep bumping this until reality sets in. Edited March 24, 2023 by el midgetron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 24, 2023 #290 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, el midgetron said: I’m just going to keep bumping this until reality set in. Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 24, 2023 #291 Share Posted March 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, el midgetron said: I’m just going to keep bumping this until reality sets in. This is hilarious, he is Trumps current lawyer in the Stormy Daniels case saying Trump broke the law and should be prosecuted for, the interview is from 2018!!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted March 24, 2023 #292 Share Posted March 24, 2023 CNN the most trusted name in news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted March 24, 2023 #293 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 7:03 AM, Tatetopa said: Maybe they were discreet and didn't call her horseface. I can see why Trump would go there. Horse races are a lot of bluster and extravagance and they are over in less than two minutes. There's an MO here............... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 24, 2023 #294 Share Posted March 24, 2023 https://nypost.com/2023/03/23/fumbling-his-trump-case-alvin-bragg-exposes-his-incompetence-nationwide/ Quote The DA supposedly had his star witness, former Trump lawyer and proven liar Michael Cohen, ready to counter Costello’s claims — but it seems Costello surprised him with testimony Cohen couldn’t address. At best, the case already suffered from relying on 1) Cohen and 2) an untested and complex legal argument, namely that Trump’s alleged misdemeanor offense of falsifying business records to conceal the payment to Daniels (via Cohen) becomes a felony as a federal campaign finance violation. Based on Cohen (A known and undisputed liar) and a flimsy untested reading of a misdemeanor law... Quote Trump need only say he paid the hush money to protect his marriage, not his campaign. This is one of the things I've been trying to point out. What Cohen says was his motivation can easily be countered by Trump stating a different motivation, such as business, his family, or just about anything else, and then it's Trumps word versus a "convicted perjury" witness, who publically has stated he has an ax to grind. Quote The US Justice Department, the Federal Election Commission and Bragg’s own predecessor, Cy Vance, all declined to pursue that campaign finance case Doesn't look good for this particular case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted March 24, 2023 #295 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) We have a visual! Just pokin my fun in. Edited March 24, 2023 by razman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGB Posted March 25, 2023 Author #296 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/22/2023 at 6:11 PM, and-then said: Nah, no political persecution here. Move along. The latest witness before that grand jury was a guy named Bob Costello. He pointed out that Bragg, hero of the Left, intentionally withheld nearly 600 pages of exculpatory evidence from that jury. Not surprisingly, no MSM is reporting it. IF it turns out to be accurate, chunky-butt in NYC may face disbarment. So, "Neither the Trump organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed Mr. Cohen for the payment directly or indirectly." Michael Cohen at the "direction of Donald J Trump lied for him to cover the affair. Two people Stormy Daniels, and Karen McDougal planned to go public with the affairs, but instead hush money was offered. And Michael Cohen told the truth finally, no longer covering for Trump and has the checks signed by Donald Trump to prove it. Basically, a paper trail. This has his Attorneys in a tizzy. Think about it. Why are they claiming "extortion" unless those checks can indeed be traced back to Trump for the said purpose of "silence?" And not attempted extortion, but extortion whereby money did indeed change hands. So, you see the need to claim "extortion?" And like I said somewhere else, Attorneys don't deal in "extortion." That is illegal. Trump just doesn't hire the brightest, does he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 26, 2023 #297 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, MGB said: So, "Neither the Trump organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed Mr. Cohen for the payment directly or indirectly." Michael Cohen at the "direction of Donald J Trump lied for him to cover the affair. Two people Stormy Daniels, and Karen McDougal planned to go public with the affairs, but instead hush money was offered. And Michael Cohen told the truth finally, no longer covering for Trump and has the checks signed by Donald Trump to prove it. Basically, a paper trail. This has his Attorneys in a tizzy. Think about it. Why are they claiming "extortion" unless those checks can indeed be traced back to Trump for the said purpose of "silence?" And not attempted extortion, but extortion whereby money did indeed change hands. So, you see the need to claim "extortion?" And like I said somewhere else, Attorneys don't deal in "extortion." That is illegal. Trump just doesn't hire the brightest, does he? Isn't the money usually given to the person doing the Extortion? EDIT: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/extortion#:~:text=noun,interest%3A the extortions of usurers. Quote the crime of obtaining money or some other thing of value by the abuse of one's office or authority. Trump didn't obtain any money. Stormy did. Is she then the criminal? https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Extortion.htm Quote Extortion occurs when someone attempts to obtain money, property, or other valuables by threatening to commit violence, accusing the victim of a crime, or revealing private or damaging information about the victim. Both state laws and federal law make extortion a crime. Edited March 26, 2023 by DieChecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 26, 2023 #298 Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/21/2023 at 10:30 PM, Tatetopa said: Yeah. As far as I know nothing official from the DA has been released, so Stormy seems to be the leading lady. She established the payout money that got transferred through Cohen from Trump. His lawyers and apologists have said it was his personal money. Maybe that can be traced back to where it came from with Alan Weiselberg's help It the money was declared on taxes as a legal expense, it might be tax evasion. Or there might be more charges when the indictment comes. I was just reading another article and apparently it will be a misdemeanor if processed by a State. It's only a felony if it is a Federal charge of campaign finance fraud. At least according to criminal expert Cuomo, former NY Governor. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/andrew-cuomo-blasts-manhattan-da-braggs-trump-probe-think-all-politics Quote "I don’t understand why Bragg is putting such emphasis on this case," the former governor told WABC Radio on Friday night. "A person breaks the law I get it, but on the state side this is a misdemeanor case. It’s really a federal case because he needs it to be a campaign finance fraud case which is a federal case and that’s what Bragg is going to have to do to get a felony out of this." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGB Posted March 26, 2023 Author #299 Share Posted March 26, 2023 46 minutes ago, DieChecker said: Isn't the money usually given to the person doing the Extortion? EDIT: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/extortion#:~:text=noun,interest%3A the extortions of usurers. Trump didn't obtain any money. Stormy did. Is she then the criminal? https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Extortion.htm Yes. That is what I am saying. Trump payed money to Stormy for silence, yet now is claiming it was extortion to cover the fact there is a paper trail and checks with his signature on them. Hard to claim extortion unless you did indeed pay the person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 26, 2023 #300 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, MGB said: Yes. That is what I am saying. Trump payed money to Stormy for silence, yet now is claiming it was extortion to cover the fact there is a paper trail and checks with his signature on them. Hard to claim extortion unless you did indeed pay the person. Ahh... OK. I wasn't sure how you were using the word. Thanks for clearify. If that's Trumps claim, then he's full of BS. He owned up to the payments years ago. Changing his tune now is just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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