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trevor borocz johnson
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I think I solved this one. Energy released in a gravity field will seek out a path of least resistance to a colder medium. The earth's static gravity field of heat would be resistant in all directions but up. The gravity field would be denser below and equally as dense on the sides, but it would be cooler and less dense straight up so that's why the flame goes up where in space the resistance of the aether is equal on all sides.

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Firstly it's not unexplained, it's a well understood phenomenon caused by the lack of convection in the air in a zero g environment. 

For anyone interested in an explanation, without pseudo-scientific waffle, you can find it here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z4sgsk7

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28 minutes ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

Firstly it's not unexplained, it's a well understood phenomenon caused by the lack of convection in the air in a zero g environment. 

For anyone interested in an explanation, without pseudo-scientific waffle, you can find it here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z4sgsk7

rubbish, convection currents don't explain anything, your just taking a swing at the common man's logic with fancy college lessons. Convection currents go up and down in a medium. I don't see the flame of the candle going down at all.

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20 hours ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

your just taking a swing at the common man's logic with fancy college lessons.

No  I'm taking a swing at total nonsense by using evidence based science. There is no logic, common man's or otherwise , in the word soup you have generated.

As for "fancy college lessons", the site I linked to is an exam revision site for 15 and 16 year old school children, which rather puts your level of scientific understanding into perspective. 

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typo corrected 'on' to 'no'.
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13 minutes ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

No  I'm taking a swing at total nonsense by using evidence based science. There is on logic, common man's or otherwise , in the word soup you have generated.

As for "fancy college lessons", the site I linked to is an exam revision site for 15 and 16 year old school children, which rather puts your level of scientific understanding into perspective. 

Neat another person who blindly disagrees on the internet. how original.

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48 minutes ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

Neat another person who blindly disagrees on the internet. how original.

The majority of your threads are nonsensical, which does result in most people disagreeing with you.

It’s definitely not blind disagreement in most cases, you just seem to have very limited comprehension of what you’re posting about.

Another fun article on flames in space here: https://www.space.com/fire-space-station-combustion-experiments

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Does anyone in this thread understand what convection currents are other than me? Is that what we're going with here? mind boggling

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16 hours ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

Does anyone in this thread understand what convection currents are other than me? Is that what we're going with here? mind boggling

Everyone in this thread understands what convection is EXCEPT you.

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1 minute ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

Everyone in this thread understands what convection is EXCEPT you.

That's weird cause if you understood it you wouldn't say that's what is happening with the OP.

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On 3/20/2023 at 7:05 PM, trevor borocz johnson said:

 

I think I solved this one. Energy released in a gravity field will seek out a path of least resistance to a colder medium. The earth's static gravity field of heat would be resistant in all directions but up. The gravity field would be denser below and equally as dense on the sides, but it would be cooler and less dense straight up so that's why the flame goes up where in space the resistance of the aether is equal on all sides.

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Hot air rises as its less dense than the air above.

The convection this creates drags the flame up.

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23 hours ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

rubbish, convection currents don't explain anything, your just taking a swing at the common man's logic with fancy college lessons. Convection currents go up and down in a medium. I don't see the flame of the candle going down at all.

Drop the attitude, it will be less embarrassing for you when you realise you lack a basic understanding of science.

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4 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Hot air rises as its less dense than the air above.

The convection this creates drags the flame up.

Exactly. Of course in zero g there is no up or down and so this convection can't occur. Simple to understand... for most people. 

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5 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Drop the attitude, it will be less embarrassing for you when you realise you lack a basic understanding of science.

I think Charles Darwin summed this up rather well:

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Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.

 

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6 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Drop the attitude, it will be less embarrassing for you when you realise you lack a basic understanding of science.

Wow! So its convection currents which occur when a cold liquid enters a hot liquid, the cold liquid bounces up and down. Is this wrong to you and what you think and force me to believe is righty o like a happy friendy le diddly doo?

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2 minutes ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

Wow! So its convection currents which occur when a cold liquid enters a hot liquid, the cold liquid bounces up and down. Is this wrong to you and what you think and force me to believe is righty o like a happy friendy le diddly doo?

I dont understand what you wrote.

Water conducts heat quite fast but if you pour cold water into hot water it immediately heads downwards. It warms up quick though.

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8 minutes ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

I think Charles Darwin summed this up rather well:

Great quote sire. Please nobody off the internet, ugh you guys are garbage posting my efforts to explain science in reality, not using an inferometer. I hope you guys learn the hard way somehow that you've wasted your lives.

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1 minute ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

Great quote sire. Please nobody off the internet, ugh you guys are garbage posting my efforts to explain science in reality, not using an inferometer. I hope you guys learn the hard way somehow that you've wasted your lives.

Well there is no way of that ever happening.

If you are hoping to find an alternative theory of gravity you need to start with the basics and get your high school qualifications in physics. Its obvious you dont even have that. Then build it up over a decade to a physics degree.

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1 minute ago, Cookie Monster said:

Well there is no way of that ever happening.

If you are hoping to find an alternative theory of gravity you need to start with the basics and get your high school qualifications in physics. Its obvious you dont even have that. Then build it up over a decade to a physics degree.

Yeah I rarely use the information in the college science courses I've taken especially the textbooks that use electrons. Surely you don't think I'm a blank page of knowledge. But its been almost 6 years since I posted about the femto camera. The whole science internet community is yet to argue anything but anti-aether nonsense. But anyways back to reality, I kind of don't like these people that like will due said, troll around preaching there crap. Ugh you people and your eye candy humor stink are enough to make me sick. 

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1 minute ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

Yeah I rarely use the information in the college science courses I've taken especially the textbooks that use electrons. Surely you don't think I'm a blank page of knowledge. But its been almost 6 years since I posted about the femto camera. The whole science internet community is yet to argue anything but anti-aether nonsense. But anyways back to reality, I kind of don't like these people that like will due said, troll around preaching there crap. Ugh you people and your eye candy humor stink are enough to make me sick. 

Come on, you`re not studying science at college.

If you have an interest in it thats good but you need to learn about it, starting with the basics.

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5 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Come on, you`re not studying science at college.

If you have an interest in it thats good but you need to learn about it, starting with the basics.

I guess anyone doesn't really like this forum, board index is sort of humorous, then that becomes like a dark gateway to how evil and mean you IDIOTS get. I don't have any further response in this convo wit you cooks because your just a person and I don't want to argue our IQ's like you do. OK?

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11 hours ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

I guess anyone doesn't really like this forum, board index is sort of humorous, then that becomes like a dark gateway to how evil and mean you IDIOTS get. I don't have any further response in this convo wit you cooks because your just a person and I don't want to argue our IQ's like you do. OK?

If you can't reasonably defend an idea, don't present it in public.

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