pellinore Posted March 24 #1 Share Posted March 24 (edited) The UK should provide visas for people fleeing natural disasters caused by climate change, a think tank has said. Centre-right think tank Onward urged the Government to provide safe, legal routes for climate refugees to reach the UK to reduce the impact of related migration on border security. Hundreds of millions of people are expected to be displaced by the effects of climate change over the next 30 years, with some likely to seek refuge in the UK, including by illegal routes. New controllable visa schemes for those displaced by climate change to come to the UK would enable the Government to help those most in need while protecting the integrity of the immigration system In its report, Forced to Move, Onward proposed introducing a natural disaster visa scheme to allow people to either earn money to help rebuild their lives before returning home or settle permanently if they have no home to return to after an environmental disaster. Government urged to provide visas for people fleeing climate change disasters (msn.com) Edited March 24 by pellinore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted March 24 #2 Share Posted March 24 If London will go under water, who, and were Londoners should go to? Heh, developing countries producing kids to the point "Ah, water well is dry"... Yeah, said Einstein, said water well can support 10 people, not 100. How is that climate change? 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted March 24 #3 Share Posted March 24 PS How well UK water system would work with additional half billion migrants who want to enter UK? 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 24 #4 Share Posted March 24 47 minutes ago, bmk1245 said: PS How well UK water system would work with additional half billion migrants who want to enter UK? Take no notice, these type of 'news' articles are simply there to wind people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted March 24 #5 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 17 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: Take no notice, these type of 'news' articles are simply there to wind people up. OK. But really, how much UK can take in? Untill, "Oh, efyouseekey, we don't have enough fresh water enough"? I will sound racists, but people in ME and Africa procreate too much, ain't good for climate change... Heh, obese folks... Where do I start..... Edited March 24 by bmk1245 'water' added 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted March 24 Author #6 Share Posted March 24 16 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: Take no notice, these type of 'news' articles are simply there to wind people up. It's a centre right think thank reported in the Independent, I don't think it is a wind up: Centre-right think tank Onward urged the Government to provide safe, legal routes for climate refugees to reach the UK to reduce the impact of related migration on border security. Hundreds of millions of people are expected to be displaced by the effects of climate change over the next 30 years, with some likely to seek refuge in the UK, including by illegal routes. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted March 24 Author #7 Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, bmk1245 said: If London will go under water, who, and were Londoners should go to? Heh, developing countries producing kids to the point "Ah, water well is dry"... Yeah, said Einstein, said water well can support 10 people, not 100. How is that climate change? Climate change is not an issue we can dodge: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted March 24 #8 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, pellinore said: Climate change is not an issue we can dodge: Heh, teach obese "beauties" how to eat, you will save plenty of food... And yeah, watter well can sustain n number of people, not nx10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 24 #9 Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, bmk1245 said: PS How well UK water system would work with additional half billion migrants who want to enter UK? They seem to act as if it's racist to ask such questions. Insanity is what it is. Those demanding totally open borders should be forced to live in the mess they are creating. As "immigration" goes, at least these folks in the UK seem to be planning ahead to provide a legal mechanism for those in need. I'm not sure why they think most would go through the time or expense, as well as the possibility of being denied entry, when they see millions flooding into other nations without having to follow any rules at all. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted March 24 #10 Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, and-then said: They seem to act as if it's racist to ask such questions. Insanity is what it is. Those demanding totally open borders should be forced to live in the mess they are creating. As "immigration" goes, at least these folks in the UK seem to be planning ahead to provide a legal mechanism for those in need. I'm not sure why they think most would go through the time or expense, as well as the possibility of being denied entry, when they see millions flooding into other nations without having to follow any rules at all. Well, brits will have clean water shortage. I'm no Brit (God bless)... On serious note, quality water supplies stretched, add anoher 10% consumers... Funny ways to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted March 24 #11 Share Posted March 24 The world's known reserves are running out of oil. There is no Climate Emergency. It should be called by it's truthful name: Energy Crisis. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted March 24 #12 Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, acidhead said: The world's known reserves are running out of oil. There is no Climate Emergency. It should be called by it's truthful name: Energy Crisis. How is there an energy crisis when we can make ethanol and other biofuels as well as having wind/solar/sea farms? 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted March 25 #13 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, acidhead said: The world's known reserves are running out of oil. There is no Climate Emergency. It should be called by it's truthful name: Energy Crisis. If the world ran out of oil then we would see companies immediately pivot to other energy sources to make money. If the world was close to running out of oil then we would see them preparing to do that in mass already. Edited March 25 by spartan max2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted March 25 #14 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, Gromdor said: How is there an energy crisis when we can make ethanol and other biofuels as well as having wind/solar/sea farms? I think it's fairly obvious it's already pivoting towards those alternative sources of energy. Keep in mind all these alternative energy sources are more expensive and not as reliable as fossil fuels. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted March 25 #15 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, spartan max2 said: If the world ran out of oil then we would see companies immediately pivot to other energy sources to make money. If the world was close to running out of oil then we would see them preparing to do that in mass already. We are seeing the preparations in mass already. Even the nations we're told are our enemies have carbon(oil) reducing climate(oil energy) plans in motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted March 25 #16 Share Posted March 25 How can any sane person support this? You are just shifting the problem or worse creating problems, influx of population would strain resources, plus since people are used to different foods and things, those need to be imported which would ironically increase carbon emissions. Moreover providing housing would lead to deforestation and wild life losses. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted March 25 #17 Share Posted March 25 14 hours ago, kartikg said: Moreover providing housing would lead to deforestation and wild life losses. As a side note to your comment on lumber. The forestry sector is a renewable resource. We will never run out of trees as long as we replant what we crop which we have been doing en mass for the past 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted March 25 #18 Share Posted March 25 On 3/25/2023 at 2:02 AM, bmk1245 said: PS How well UK water system would work with additional half billion migrants who want to enter UK? I don’t imagine it would work well since the water dam system was mostly designed 100 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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