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[Gilltin]

Hi there, so I'm not too sure how to go about this because I could probably write a short book about it all, so I'll try and put it in a nutshell but include some of the experiences. I'd be happy to add or elaborate on anything further though.

When I was 8, (I'm 33 now) I was diagnosed with epilepsy and around the time I saw what I think was a UFO (I think I've seen multiple over the years) and began to experience strange activity around that time as well, or I became aware of it at least. Some night after that, I woke and sat up in the middle of the night and immediately looked over at the window to see the silhouette of something just standing calmly at the window, (super smooth, no details in the silhouette of clothes or hair, then after some seconds it slowly just descended under the window frame and I didn't hear or see anything else. I slept in the top bunk of a bunk bed (no one in bottom bunk) and I remember that I slept with pillows and teddies against the barriers of the bed for a while after that so I wouldn't be able to see the window when I was lying down and facing that way. There was also extremely visible shadows of angel wings on the wall in the hall beside me, as if it was my own shadow, though I don't think they're mine, in fact I've read that it isn't a good thing, anyway, I also noticed that my most favourite toys would never be where I left them, and that's been a recurring thing throughout the years, always the items that I use the most. I moved into the other smaller bedroom that was beside our driveway that was covered in stone and it was a regular occurrence to hear someone walking up and down the stones late through the night. As a child, I didn't question much, I just thought it was what it was, but I was uncomfortable and I didn't like it at all, I could feel something wasn't right but like I said I didn't question it. We moved to a town 3 hrs away when I was about 9 and a half, and I don't remember anything else happening, in fact my earlier experiences blurred into the background as I grew and got distracted with a lot of changes.

At 16 I met my now ex partner (the partner I reference throughout this) and had an awakening, not really a spiritual one exactly, more like I suddenly realised that the world is actually nothing like we think it is and are purposefully lead to believe. It wasn't specifically anything that he said, it just suddenly became this sudden inner knowing, but I'm convinced he was a catalyst in my awakening. A slight period of depression even followed as things seemed to turn upside down, though nothing had actually even happened.

The paranormal experiences didn't happen again from the age of 8/9 until i was 17. Both me and my ex-partner lived together in a flat in a tenement square, and after a few months, we began to experience daily paranormal activity. At first the front door would open and shut when I was alone, but I didn't jump to any paranormal conclusion right away. It wasn't until the latch chain on the door would be moved and twisted, which made it difficult to get off, that we realised it wasn't a person doing this. We were both in front of the door when the chain went flying off the latch which truly confirmed it for us. Whatever it was, was able to, and regularly unlocked and locked the front door, without the key (unless it took it and did it without us noticing). There were times we'd come home and the door would be unlocked and lying open which was that bit worse because we had a cat, but he luckily never ran away. Eventually the lock mechanism was affected which made it difficult to lock or unlock at all. At one point, me and my partner left the flat very briefly, and when we went to go back in, we couldn't, as the chain had been put on the latch. That was the last straw regarding the door and after some difficulty and pain, my partner tried to shove the door in to weaken the latch then he managed to squeeze his hand through the gap to get the chain off, and as soon as he did I ripped the chain and latch off the door. That one happened as I was trying to make contact with a priest from a local church just down the road. I'm not religious but we were desperate and my mum advised him as she and her side of the family used to go to that church for years. He did come and he did some kind of ritual that we helped in, but if anything, it just seemed to encourage activity. He came round a good few times more as he knew how much we appreciated the comfort he brought us just by being there for us, but he eventually moved on as he felt helpless and it wasn't a normal practice to investigate these things, where he comes from anyway it's very taboo.

There were so many experiences after that. It would take the house keys, one time we found them in the fish tank, the second time, we found them on a CD called 'Sleeping with Ghosts'. The chord that allows for the shower to come on that you have to pull before and after you shower, was pulled while my bf was in the shower. He thought it was me trying to be funny as he heard footsteps and the chord being pulled. At the same I heard my name being called as if someone was standing next to me, then seconds later my bf ran through naked and panicked after the shower stopping and not seeing me there. It knocked/rattled the inside of our bedroom cupboard one night when we were in bed, seemed to go on forever while we just lay silently in shock. It'd always be clicking switches during the night too. It loved to throw various bathroom items into the bath as well (items that didn't sit near the bath), like plant pots with the plants, household cleaners, just whatever really. We'd be minding our own business and hear another crash from the bathroom and wonder what item it'd be that time, it was exhausting, physically, mentally and emotionally.

These are just a few experiences from that flat but it was 4 months of daily activity until we moved out mainly because of it, hoping it would help, but like I said I'm happy to share a lot more. 

When we moved, we had a few experiences in the other flat in the beginning but that was it until I got pregnant around 2 years later (with the same ex partner) that the activity started again and this was in a different place as the one we moved to from the first place, as it wasn't so suitable for having a baby as there were a lot of stairs and I need to avoid them as much as I can as my epilepsy has never been controlled, and not for lack of trying, and I'm on medication for it just now. This time the centrepiece in the beginning wasn't our front door, but the space between the top of the kitchen cupboards and the ceiling. It'd constantly put things up there, cups, bowls, plates, tablet jars, food, even the cup holder and pots and pans, you'd walk in wondering what'd be up there next. It even had this thing about things being even, as sometimes it'd line up objects depending on size and would evenly space them out. One time I had a tube of tomato puree on the kitchen counter in front of its favourite cupboards, I looked around for literally a second and when I turned back around it was gone. I instantly thought to get up and check above the cupboards and sure enough it was there. Apart from doing that all the time, it just seemed to do kind of annoying things in the living room, like rearrange ornaments in weird positions or just knock things over and cause a mess. It was just typically being a nuisance but it didn't come with the same fear as in the first place that we lived, something seemed more sinister there, until my fiance has a pillow held over his face not long after he got into bed one night. That was instantly way too much especially while I was pregnant so I phoned the local spiritualist church which put me through to the SSPR (the Scottish Society of Paranormal Research, I'm sure) who came round and took notes and multiple psychics over who did pick up something in the kitchen without us providing any information, but they weren't able to get rid of anything. It wasn't until I decided to take it into my own hands and really try and get some sort of grasp on it that it calmed down, for a year or so anyway. 

I realise how much I'm typing, I'm sorry it's so long, and thanks for reading if you've made it this far, but after that year things did progress again for a year or so, I can go into details but I'm seriously lagging here lol there's a lot more I could go into as well as I found out later these kind of thing runs in some of my family (the females anyway), though mine has been the most intense so far, and my parents and I worked with a Shaman for a while as they were also having problems. He did help, temporarily, but I really do believe that we have to keep on top of these things ourselves and that it's completely within our power to do so. I try to delve into this stuff more (while keeping a balance with observable, explainable reality), I am a spiritual person but I feel and I have always felt a blockage and quite often when I go into meditation more, it seems to bring on activity. I actually hadn't experienced anything physical for a few years after the last year that I did, until recently, funnily enough while I feel like I've taken a turn back down this path where I'm determined to make sense of this and get in better touch with it all. (Wee note - I think there has been a lottt of psychic attacks to manipulate situations to result in negative emotions, during times where there doesn't appear to be activity, and not just to me, I feel like it probably happens to a lot of people and tears up families that don't know this stuff is around or exists).

There's also the time I was threatened and followed due to searches on the internet regarding dulce base about 14 years ago. I'd only just stumbled on it accidentally as well and created a thread of sites I guess, but the threatening message made me more curious if anything> I did back off on that stuff for a little while due to the fear and just the wtf is actually happening, it seemed to be messy with things I'd already experienced anyway, and I was only 19 at that particular time. (That was about a year before I became pregnant).

Aaah right, I'm going to stop here but can definitely add much more if wanted. I wonder if anyone has any opinions on this? I've looked at a good few theories but I'm not sure any of them resonate with my situation. I really want to know. I'm trying to get a better grasp on chemistry, physics and biology and looking to others that might have the answer to how all of this is even possible. Recently I've been thinking a lot about the role genetics might play in it, and maybe even the reason why some experience it in this way and others don't.

Lots of love, take care everyone.

[Grim Reaper 6]

12 minutes ago, Gilltin said:

Hi there, so I'm not too sure how to go about this because I could probably write a short book about it all, so I'll try and put it in a nutshell but include some of the experiences. I'd be happy to add or elaborate on anything further though.

When I was 8, (I'm 33 now) I was diagnosed with epilepsy and around the time I saw what I think was a UFO (I think I've seen multiple over the years) and began to experience strange activity around that time as well, or I became aware of it at least. Some night after that, I woke and sat up in the middle of the night and immediately looked over at the window to see the silhouette of something just standing calmly at the window, (super smooth, no details in the silhouette of clothes or hair, then after some seconds it slowly just descended under the window frame and I didn't hear or see anything else. I slept in the top bunk of a bunk bed (no one in bottom bunk) and I remember that I slept with pillows and teddies against the barriers of the bed for a while after that so I wouldn't be able to see the window when I was lying down and facing that way. There was also extremely visible shadows of angel wings on the wall in the hall beside me, as if it was my own shadow, though I don't think they're mine, in fact I've read that it isn't a good thing, anyway, I also noticed that my most favourite toys would never be where I left them, and that's been a recurring thing throughout the years, always the items that I use the most. I moved into the other smaller bedroom that was beside our driveway that was covered in stone and it was a regular occurrence to hear someone walking up and down the stones late through the night. As a child, I didn't question much, I just thought it was what it was, but I was uncomfortable and I didn't like it at all, I could feel something wasn't right but like I said I didn't question it. We moved to a town 3 hrs away when I was about 9 and a half, and I don't remember anything else happening, in fact my earlier experiences blurred into the background as I grew and got distracted with a lot of changes.

At 16 I met my now ex partner (the partner I reference throughout this) and had an awakening, not really a spiritual one exactly, more like I suddenly realised that the world is actually nothing like we think it is and are purposefully lead to believe. It wasn't specifically anything that he said, it just suddenly became this sudden inner knowing, but I'm convinced he was a catalyst in my awakening. A slight period of depression even followed as things seemed to turn upside down, though nothing had actually even happened.

The paranormal experiences didn't happen again from the age of 8/9 until i was 17. Both me and my ex-partner lived together in a flat in a tenement square, and after a few months, we began to experience daily paranormal activity. At first the front door would open and shut when I was alone, but I didn't jump to any paranormal conclusion right away. It wasn't until the latch chain on the door would be moved and twisted, which made it difficult to get off, that we realised it wasn't a person doing this. We were both in front of the door when the chain went flying off the latch which truly confirmed it for us. Whatever it was, was able to, and regularly unlocked and locked the front door, without the key (unless it took it and did it without us noticing). There were times we'd come home and the door would be unlocked and lying open which was that bit worse because we had a cat, but he luckily never ran away. Eventually the lock mechanism was affected which made it difficult to lock or unlock at all. At one point, me and my partner left the flat very briefly, and when we went to go back in, we couldn't, as the chain had been put on the latch. That was the last straw regarding the door and after some difficulty and pain, my partner tried to shove the door in to weaken the latch then he managed to squeeze his hand through the gap to get the chain off, and as soon as he did I ripped the chain and latch off the door. That one happened as I was trying to make contact with a priest from a local church just down the road. I'm not religious but we were desperate and my mum advised him as she and her side of the family used to go to that church for years. He did come and he did some kind of ritual that we helped in, but if anything, it just seemed to encourage activity. He came round a good few times more as he knew how much we appreciated the comfort he brought us just by being there for us, but he eventually moved on as he felt helpless and it wasn't a normal practice to investigate these things, where he comes from anyway it's very taboo.

There were so many experiences after that. It would take the house keys, one time we found them in the fish tank, the second time, we found them on a CD called 'Sleeping with Ghosts'. The chord that allows for the shower to come on that you have to pull before and after you shower, was pulled while my bf was in the shower. He thought it was me trying to be funny as he heard footsteps and the chord being pulled. At the same I heard my name being called as if someone was standing next to me, then seconds later my bf ran through naked and panicked after the shower stopping and not seeing me there. It knocked/rattled the inside of our bedroom cupboard one night when we were in bed, seemed to go on forever while we just lay silently in shock. It'd always be clicking switches during the night too. It loved to throw various bathroom items into the bath as well (items that didn't sit near the bath), like plant pots with the plants, household cleaners, just whatever really. We'd be minding our own business and hear another crash from the bathroom and wonder what item it'd be that time, it was exhausting, physically, mentally and emotionally.

These are just a few experiences from that flat but it was 4 months of daily activity until we moved out mainly because of it, hoping it would help, but like I said I'm happy to share a lot more. 

When we moved, we had a few experiences in the other flat in the beginning but that was it until I got pregnant around 2 years later (with the same ex partner) that the activity started again and this was in a different place as the one we moved to from the first place, as it wasn't so suitable for having a baby as there were a lot of stairs and I need to avoid them as much as I can as my epilepsy has never been controlled, and not for lack of trying, and I'm on medication for it just now. This time the centrepiece in the beginning wasn't our front door, but the space between the top of the kitchen cupboards and the ceiling. It'd constantly put things up there, cups, bowls, plates, tablet jars, food, even the cup holder and pots and pans, you'd walk in wondering what'd be up there next. It even had this thing about things being even, as sometimes it'd line up objects depending on size and would evenly space them out. One time I had a tube of tomato puree on the kitchen counter in front of its favourite cupboards, I looked around for literally a second and when I turned back around it was gone. I instantly thought to get up and check above the cupboards and sure enough it was there. Apart from doing that all the time, it just seemed to do kind of annoying things in the living room, like rearrange ornaments in weird positions or just knock things over and cause a mess. It was just typically being a nuisance but it didn't come with the same fear as in the first place that we lived, something seemed more sinister there, until my fiance has a pillow held over his face not long after he got into bed one night. That was instantly way too much especially while I was pregnant so I phoned the local spiritualist church which put me through to the SSPR (the Scottish Society of Paranormal Research, I'm sure) who came round and took notes and multiple psychics over who did pick up something in the kitchen without us providing any information, but they weren't able to get rid of anything. It wasn't until I decided to take it into my own hands and really try and get some sort of grasp on it that it calmed down, for a year or so anyway. 

I realise how much I'm typing, I'm sorry it's so long, and thanks for reading if you've made it this far, but after that year things did progress again for a year or so, I can go into details but I'm seriously lagging here lol there's a lot more I could go into as well as I found out later these kind of thing runs in some of my family (the females anyway), though mine has been the most intense so far, and my parents and I worked with a Shaman for a while as they were also having problems. He did help, temporarily, but I really do believe that we have to keep on top of these things ourselves and that it's completely within our power to do so. I try to delve into this stuff more (while keeping a balance with observable, explainable reality), I am a spiritual person but I feel and I have always felt a blockage and quite often when I go into meditation more, it seems to bring on activity. I actually hadn't experienced anything physical for a few years after the last year that I did, until recently, funnily enough while I feel like I've taken a turn back down this path where I'm determined to make sense of this and get in better touch with it all. (Wee note - I think there has been a lottt of psychic attacks to manipulate situations to result in negative emotions, during times where there doesn't appear to be activity, and not just to me, I feel like it probably happens to a lot of people and tears up families that don't know this stuff is around or exists).

There's also the time I was threatened and followed due to searches on the internet regarding dulce base about 14 years ago. I'd only just stumbled on it accidentally as well and created a thread of sites I guess, but the threatening message made me more curious if anything> I did back off on that stuff for a little while due to the fear and just the wtf is actually happening, it seemed to be messy with things I'd already experienced anyway, and I was only 19 at that particular time. (That was about a year before I became pregnant).

Aaah right, I'm going to stop here but can definitely add much more if wanted. I wonder if anyone has any opinions on this? I've looked at a good few theories but I'm not sure any of them resonate with my situation. I really want to know. I'm trying to get a better grasp on chemistry, physics and biology and looking to others that might have the answer to how all of this is even possible. Recently I've been thinking a lot about the role genetics might play in it, and maybe even the reason why some experience it in this way and others don't.

Lots of love, take care everyone.

Welcome to the forum, that’s an amazing story.

[Gilltin]

5 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Welcome to the forum, that’s an amazing story.

Thank you

[papageorge1]

Lots of potential subjects to discuss there. I can't put it all together that's a lot of stuff to sort through. Sounds like multiple people have experienced stuff making it hard to explain away.

Edited March 30 by papageorge1

[Gilltin]

2 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

Lots of potential subjects to discuss there. I can't put it all together that's a lot of stuff to sort through. Sounds like multiple people have experienced stuff making it hard to explain away.

I get that. I probably should've mentioned it but later when my ex and I broke up, i eventually met someone else i was with for 5 years and he experienced things aswell though no one near the amount my kids dad and I went through together. My son has also witnessed a few things and seems quite sensitive to energies.

[csspwns]

Ever consider setting up video cameras?

[Gilltin]

3 hours ago, csspwns said:

Ever consider setting up video cameras?

I kinda have at brief points but whenever it's been intense i don't consider getting proof as it's not really a priority. I could've set up an evp recorder too but because it's been around for so long, i don't actually want to see or hear anything if you get me? I'm not sure i could handle it. If ya mean so other people can see it, i'm more concerned with how i feel than if other people believe if ya get me?

[csspwns]

10 hours ago, Gilltin said:

I kinda have at brief points but whenever it's been intense i don't consider getting proof as it's not really a priority. I could've set up an evp recorder too but because it's been around for so long, i don't actually want to see or hear anything if you get me? I'm not sure i could handle it. If ya mean so other people can see it, i'm more concerned with how i feel than if other people believe if ya get me?

You said you really want to know and if all of this is even possible. Based off that your best option would be recording physical evidence of the happenings you described. It might be better to face the phenomena head on to best try and figure out the actual cause. You may even change the world as we know it in the process if you manage to obtain objective proof of your experiences.

[+joc]

On 3/29/2023 at 9:10 PM, Gilltin said:

When I was 8, (I'm 33 now) I was diagnosed with epilepsy and around the time I saw what I think was a UFO (I think I've seen multiple over the years) and began to experience strange activity around that time as well, or I became aware of it at least.

Epileptic psychoses reflect a fundamental disruption in the fidelity of mind and occur during seizure freedom or during or after seizures. The psychotic symptoms in epilepsy share some qualities with schizophrenic psychosis, such as positive symptoms of paranoid delusions and hallucinations.

Link

Edited March 31 by joc

[Gilltin]

8 hours ago, csspwns said:

You said you really want to know and if all of this is even possible. Based off that your best option would be recording physical evidence of the happenings you described. It might be better to face the phenomena head on to best try and figure out the actual cause. You may even change the world as we know it in the process if you manage to obtain objective proof of your experiences.

Aaah okay i think you're right. I think after having my Son it made me even more apprehensive to face it like that, i used to be so worried about it on top of normal motherly worries. I think when i feel a bit more confident i might go for it, thanks for the encouragement

[Gilltin]

4 hours ago, joc said:

Epileptic psychoses reflect a fundamental disruption in the fidelity of mind and occur during seizure freedom or during or after seizures. The psychotic symptoms in epilepsy share some qualities with schizophrenic psychosis, such as positive symptoms of paranoid delusions and hallucinations.

Link

I'm aware of that but it's literally impossible that it's my epilepsy when there are also 3 other longterm witnesses (without any illness of the brain) and also with the kind of activity that there was. It would actually be more impressive if i managed to do all that during a seizure myself than it being paranormal, i can't move objects through delusion. If there is any connection to epilepsy, i think it has the potential to put your brain in a different state of consciousness and make you vulnerable to these things. I've also never had hallucinations before or psychotic episodes. I have a complex partial epilepsy, not the typical grand mals.

Edited March 31 by Gilltin
Forgot to add a bit about epilepsy type

[openozy]

20 hours ago, Gilltin said:

If ya mean so other people can see it, i'm more concerned with how i feel than if other people believe if ya get me?

This is how I know you are genuine. I've also had a lifetime of paranormal experiences and always looked for mundane answers of which there won't any in most cases. If you are open you just have to live with this stuff and learn how to deal with it on a spiritual level. It's just life to me now after 50 years and I like the experiences and wouldn't want it any other way. I bet you are a very sensitive person in normal life to be able to pick up on these things. Welcome to the forum Gilltin.

[+joc]

18 hours ago, Gilltin said:

I'm aware of that but it's literally impossible that it's my epilepsy when there are also 3 other longterm witnesses (without any illness of the brain) and also with the kind of activity that there was. It would actually be more impressive if i managed to do all that during a seizure myself than it being paranormal, i can't move objects through delusion. If there is any connection to epilepsy, i think it has the potential to put your brain in a different state of consciousness and make you vulnerable to these things. I've also never had hallucinations before or psychotic episodes. I have a complex partial epilepsy, not the typical grand mals.

It isn't necessary to be in an epileptic seizure to have mind dysfunctionality.

Epileptic psychoses reflect a fundamental disruption in the fidelity of mind and occur during seizure freedom or during or after seizures. The psychotic symptoms in epilepsy share some qualities with schizophrenic psychosis, such as positive symptoms of paranoid delusions and hallucinations.

Nor is it limited to a grand mal.  I don't know what happened.  I think that does offer some explanation.  That you think it is literally impossible  seems to me to be problematic.  You seem to be trying to hard to negativize that possibility altogether.  

 

Edited April 1 by joc

[Davros of Skaro]

On 3/30/2023 at 1:10 AM, papageorge1 said:

Lots of potential subjects to discuss there. I can't put it all together that's a lot of stuff to sort through. Sounds like multiple people have experienced stuff making it hard to explain away.

Go ahead and call her a Starseed already.

[papageorge1]

5 hours ago, Davros of Skaro said:

Go ahead and call her a Starseed already.

I'll refrain from calling you a few things!

[Abramelin]

On 4/1/2023 at 4:45 AM, joc said:

It isn't necessary to be in an epileptic seizure to have mind dysfunctionality.

Epileptic psychoses reflect a fundamental disruption in the fidelity of mind and occur during seizure freedom or during or after seizures. The psychotic symptoms in epilepsy share some qualities with schizophrenic psychosis, such as positive symptoms of paranoid delusions and hallucinations.

Nor is it limited to a grand mal.  I don't know what happened.  I think that does offer some explanation.  That you think it is literally impossible  seems to me to be problematic.  You seem to be trying to hard to negativize that possibility altogether.  

 

The problem here is that there were other witnesses present.

[+joc]

48 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

The problem here is that there were other witnesses present.

Yes, but the possibility does exist that these 'witnesses' were also a dysfunctionality of mind.  

[Abramelin]

5 minutes ago, joc said:

Yes, but the possibility does exist that these 'witnesses' were also a dysfunctionality of mind.  

So she may have imagined there were others present?

I assume they must have talked about it afterwards?

[+joc]

 

1 hour ago, Abramelin said:

So she may have imagined there were others present?

I assume they must have talked about it afterwards?

On 3/31/2023 at 9:45 PM, joc said:

The psychotic symptoms in epilepsy share some qualities with schizophrenic psychosis, such as positive symptoms of paranoid delusions and hallucinations.

 

 

[Gilltin]

On 3/31/2023 at 11:23 AM, openozy said:

This is how I know you are genuine. I've also had a lifetime of paranormal experiences and always looked for mundane answers of which there won't any in most cases. If you are open you just have to live with this stuff and learn how to deal with it on a spiritual level. It's just life to me now after 50 years and I like the experiences and wouldn't want it any other way. I bet you are a very sensitive person in normal life to be able to pick up on these things. Welcome to the forum Gilltin.

Hi there, thanks for the welcome i'm glad you commented as i've been hoping to come across others that have experienced these kinds of things, it can be so isolating as i'm sure you'll know. Yes! That's exactly what i've been doing so far too! Trying to get some control through my spiritual growth. I wouldn't want it any other way either, i love knowing there's so much more to life than we're taught to believe.

[Gilltin]

47 minutes ago, joc said:

 

 

 

I appreciate your input and you're entitled to your opinion, but i have to say that you're only insulting my intelligence at this point.  I'm happy to go through points to better explain them if you need me to.

"That you think it is literally impossible  seems to me to be problematic.  You seem to be trying to hard to negativize that possibility altogether."

It's okay if you don't believe but you don't need to project your disbelief onto me, it's quite condescending to be honest. Like i said i'm happy to be questioned, but you don't me or how much or little i know about anything. I'm a skeptic, i have a big appreciation for science, in fact i'm studying towards a chemistry degree and hope to go further. I'd love to know how this works on a molecular level.

Me and my witnesses experienced things in real time, together. I also don't appreciate you saying that my ex partners, child and myself are potentially delusional. 

[+joc]

11 hours ago, Gilltin said:

I appreciate your input and you're entitled to your opinion, but i have to say that you're only insulting my intelligence at this point.  I'm happy to go through points to better explain them if you need me to.

"That you think it is literally impossible  seems to me to be problematic.  You seem to be trying to hard to negativize that possibility altogether."

It's okay if you don't believe but you don't need to project your disbelief onto me, it's quite condescending to be honest. Like i said i'm happy to be questioned, but you don't me or how much or little i know about anything. I'm a skeptic, i have a big appreciation for science, in fact i'm studying towards a chemistry degree and hope to go further. I'd love to know how this works on a molecular level.

Me and my witnesses experienced things in real time, together. I also don't appreciate you saying that my ex partners, child and myself are potentially delusional. 

No insult intended.  Carry on.  Just stating what I thought.  If it doesn't apply to you so be it.  I don't know you.  Nor do I believe your experiences are anything out of the realm of the Laws of Physics.  That's why I was going with Dysfunctional Mind.  

Edited April 3 by joc

[Gilltin]

7 hours ago, joc said:

No insult intended.  Carry on.  Just stating what I thought.  If it doesn't apply to you so be it.  I don't know you.  Nor do I believe your experiences are anything out of the realm of the Laws of Physics.  That's why I was going with Dysfunctional Mind.  

No problem. I think it'll be explained by science one day, maybe quantum mechanics, but we can agree to disagree

[+Desertrat56]

On 3/29/2023 at 8:10 PM, Gilltin said:

There's also the time I was threatened and followed due to searches on the internet regarding dulce base about 14 years ago. I'd only just stumbled on it accidentally as well and created a thread of sites I guess, but the threatening message made me more curious if anything> I did back off on that stuff for a little while due to the fear and just the wtf is actually happening, it seemed to be messy with things I'd already experienced anyway, and I was only 19 at that particular time. (That was about a year before I became pregnant).

Welcome to the forum.  What was the actual message you got threatening you when you searched about Dulce Base?  

Edited April 3 by Desertrat56

[+Desertrat56]

On 3/30/2023 at 1:38 AM, Gilltin said:

I get that. I probably should've mentioned it but later when my ex and I broke up, i eventually met someone else i was with for 5 years and he experienced things aswell though no one near the amount my kids dad and I went through together. My son has also witnessed a few things and seems quite sensitive to energies.

Sometimes when you start experiencing weirdness at a young age, eventually those experiences will cover a whole gamut of things from potergiest activity to seeing ufos/uaps, seeing weird creatures,  and weird mechanical malfunctions, etc.