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A New York Grand Jury has indicted Trump.


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5 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

Sorry your world is crashing down around you, but we did try to warn you.

Last year, Alvin Bragg lowered 52% of all felony charges to misdemeanors. But now he chose to elevate a misdemeanor past the statute of limitations to a felony to indict Trump. Total banana republic ***t.

This is what is known as an actual threat to democracy. A politically motivated prosecutor is weaponizing his office to go after the guy winning in the 2024 polls. This is what Putin does to his opponents but the America libs want looks a lot like Russia they claim to despise.

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2 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

You and I both know that the bolder will not happen. It will be discredited as pandering to the Democrats or evidence having been falsified or some other such thing, most likely. 

Of course it will. It's just a bonus to have his lies on record.

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2 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Donald Trump- raided, indicted

Roger Stone- raided, arrested

Steve Bannon- arrested

Peter Navarro- arrested

Rudy Giuliani- raided

The Clintons- walk free

Hunter Biden- walks free

Epstein’s clients- walk free

DC insider traders- walk free

Spotted the pattern yet?

One side commits all the crimes?

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I think the Dem strategy is to incite a reaction from fringe idiots into doing something stupid. This will be portrayed as worse than any past event in history and will be blamed on everyone who doesn’t vote Democrat. Enter the Police State.

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12 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Equal justice under the law is not supposed to be based on how popular a defendant is or if the outcome will actually help him.   Did the grand jury find sufficient cause to believe he committed a crime?  Will his lawyers be able to defend him in court, and might they prevail?

If you watched any of his interview with Hannity or his Waco rally and still think he has the mental acuity and moral  standing to be president, then by all means you should vote for him.  Selfishly, I think Trump is about the only candidate that Biden stands a chance of beating.

That’s really the key here isn’t it? Equal justice under the law. This is the first president to ever face charges post presidency. All of whom over the last 30 years at least have committed crimes far worse than this. They are all held up as heroes. 
 

Honestly I didn’t think they would do it. Figured this was all for the headlines. He hasn’t even been convicted yet and already seems to have martyred status. 
 

So how does this work if they convict him? He will be the first prisoner to be protected by the secret service. Will they be allowed to have guns in the prison? Will they take no for an answer? We are in uncharted territory. 

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17 minutes ago, Setton said:

One side commits all the crimes?

Not even close. Heck Obama sold assault weapons to a Mexican drug cartel. Two boarder patrol agents were killed with those weapons. Eric Holder refused to testify before Congress over it. Similar to Steve Bannon. Nothing. 
 

Rules for thee, not for me. 

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17 minutes ago, WVK said:

I think the Dem strategy is to incite a reaction from fringe idiots into doing something stupid. This will be portrayed as worse than any past event in history and will be blamed on everyone who doesn’t vote Democrat. Enter the Police State.

Yep. Now that Jan 6 is a wash, they need some new footage. I’m sure they have provocateurs on standby as well. It’s gonna happen, even if it doesn’t happen. 

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1 hour ago, Setton said:

One side commits all the crimes?

Did you type that with a straight face?   ....the Clintons are in that list.

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3 hours ago, WVK said:

I think the Dem strategy is to incite a reaction from fringe idiots into doing something stupid. This will be portrayed as worse than any past event in history and will be blamed on everyone who doesn’t vote Democrat. Enter the Police State.

It hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will and the democrats want peace as much as most normal people.  You sound like you are part of that fringe.

The only actions I saw last week was a group of 6 people waving flags and yelling "MAGA Loosers", they had sign that said that two.  And I saw photo fo 4 people with signs for the florida man in front of trump tower.    What have you actually seen to indicate you know what you are talking about?

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3 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

So how does this work if they convict him? He will be the first prisoner to be protected by the secret service. Will they be allowed to have guns in the prison? Will they take no for an answer? We are in uncharted territory. 

If it works like it usually does for murderers in NYC, he'll be booked then let loose without bail.

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8 hours ago, psyche101 said:

If 34 fails them charge 33. If 33 fails them charge 32. 

It's a fair list to get through.

Trump is a dinosaur so they aren't completely extinct. 

I think this last one is already 47th...

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7 hours ago, acidhead said:

Watch Mark Dice interview people who when told Trumps sons killed a Triceratops,  a Pterodactyl, a Saber Tooth Tiger and a Wooly Mammoth while on Safari in Africa ACTUALLY believe him and agree he should be removed from office and his kids jailed. 

Video is from 2016 

:lol:

 

:tsu:

I wouldn't be able to keep straight face.

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If Trump did sleep with a Porn star. That was before he got into politics. Unlike Bill Clinton who played the har-Monica in the Whitehouse.

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1 hour ago, Desertrat56 said:

It hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will and the democrats want peace as much as most normal people.  You sound like you are part of that fringe.

Do you think that Dems would prefer that 1/6 never happened?

 

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58 minutes ago, Hawken said:

If Trump did sleep with a Porn star. That was before he got into politics. Unlike Bill Clinton who played the har-Monica in the Whitehouse.

I think it was Monica who was playing the flute... :whistle: Bill was just "supervising". :lol:

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7 minutes ago, WVK said:

Do you think that Dems would prefer that 1/6 never happened?

Yes, every sane person would prefer that it never happened.  What is your confusion abou that?

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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/11/only-2-of-federal-criminal-defendants-go-to-trial-and-most-who-do-are-found-guilty/

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Only 2% of federal criminal defendants go to trial, and most who do are found guilty

Just as a point of discussion.

Like 95% to 99% of Grand Juries do issue an indictment. The standard to do so is basically just probably cause. It is in the trial where the crime has to be proven.

So, either Trump will plead guilty to some of the charges, and the rest be dismissed. And he gets some minor punishment.

Or he'll be charged with them all and likely go scot free. I've not seen the evidence, but the background makes the case look very shaky. Previous NY State and Federal, officials have in the past looked into it and abandoned the idea. Some even leaving their position to distance themselves from this case.

It would be in the NY DA offices best interests to take any plea bargain. As it would be the "Bird in the Hand", rather then the dicey alternative.

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4 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

That’s really the key here isn’t it? Equal justice under the law. This is the first president to ever face charges post presidency. All of whom over the last 30 years at least have committed crimes far worse than this. They are all held up as heroes. 
 

Honestly I didn’t think they would do it. Figured this was all for the headlines. He hasn’t even been convicted yet and already seems to have martyred status. 
 

So how does this work if they convict him? He will be the first prisoner to be protected by the secret service. Will they be allowed to have guns in the prison? Will they take no for an answer? We are in uncharted territory. 

He won't spend a day in jail no matter what happens. If he does I'm sure they will find him a nice cushy cell tucked away from Gen Pop. 

My guess is he will get a suspended sentence, probation and pay a fine if his lawyers don't plea it down to a much lesser crime for him to plead guilty to that would result in even less punishment. 

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32 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

Yes, every sane person would prefer that it never happened.  What is your confusion abou that?

I think your confusing sane people with partisan politicians 

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6 minutes ago, WVK said:

I think your confusing sane people with partisan politicians 

So you actually think sane people were happy about 1/6? 

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