WVK Posted April 1 #51 Share Posted April 1 18 hours ago, MGB said: Regardless of all of Trumps supposed criminality, his supporters will believe that a man being lawfully prosecuted in a court of law with evidence to support the verdict was just a kangaroo court. In other words, laws do not apply to Trump in their eyes. So, it is not hatred of the man, or TDS, just accountability. Do you think Trump woul be held accountable in NYC if he were a Democrat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted April 1 #52 Share Posted April 1 1 minute ago, WVK said: Do you think Trump woul be held accountable in NYC if he were a Democrat? Yes. Democrats get indicted and tired before a trial of their peers all the time in New York. His lawyer (Cohen) that went to jail for him over this is currently registered as a Democrat. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVK Posted April 1 #53 Share Posted April 1 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: Yes. Democrats get indicted and tired before a trial of their peers all the time in New York. His lawyer (Cohen) that went to jail for him over this is currently registered as a Democrat. Would Cohan been indicted if he hadn’t been Trumps lawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted April 1 #54 Share Posted April 1 7 minutes ago, WVK said: Would Cohan been indicted if he hadn’t been Trumps lawyer? Yes. He commited a crime. You seem to be under some sort of delusion that having a political affiliation will shield you from crimes in America. If that is true, America can't become a "Banana republic" because it has already been one for ages. I think part of the problem is the inability to see between political rhetoric and actual justice. There is a reason why Republicans make wild claims, but when given power to investigate and charge, never come up with indictments. It's because it is just rhetoric and not an actual crime that they want a civillian jury to examine the evidence and rule over. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted April 1 #55 Share Posted April 1 45 minutes ago, zep73 said: Czechoslovakia? There is no such place. He won the 2016 election fair and square. Let's not sink to his level and make up lies. If you don’t understand the historical significance of my argument, then just say so. You can play the role of Neville Chamberlain, if you wish, but I see no reason to duplicate the error. There’s a reasonable argument, that if Trump had not committed election fraud with Michael Cohen, he might not have been elected, to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVK Posted April 1 #56 Share Posted April 1 14 minutes ago, Gromdor said: Yes. He commited a crime. You seem to be under some sort of delusion that having a political affiliation will shield you from crimes in America. If that is true, America can't become a "Banana republic" because it has already been one for ages. I think part of the problem is the inability to see between political rhetoric and actual justice. There is a reason why Republicans make wild claims, but when given power to investigate and charge, never come up with indictments. It's because it is just rhetoric and not an actual crime that they want a civillian jury to examine the evidence and rule over. Yes we are a banana republic which is why you’re wrong. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVK Posted April 1 #57 Share Posted April 1 37 minutes ago, Gromdor said: Yes. Democrats get indicted and tired before a trial of their peers all the time in New York. His lawyer (Cohen) that went to jail for him over this is currently registered as a Democrat. Maybe that’s because 90% of NYers are democrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted April 1 #58 Share Posted April 1 36 minutes ago, WVK said: Maybe that’s because 90% of NYers are democrats You know statements like this are really telling. Not everyone is as corrupt as you and would put politics ahead of morality and our legal system. But let us break this down with some facts. Juries typically are 12 people and they have to unanimously agree to pass down a conviction. Even by your (incorrect) percentages of New York. At least one juror would be Republican. (The true percentage is that only 50.6% (68% in the city) of New Yorkers are Democrats, btw.) That would mean Trump would never be convicted because the 1 to 6 non-democrats would not allow it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted April 1 #59 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 52 minutes ago, WVK said: Yes we are a banana republic which is why you’re wrong. If this is true, then it doesn't matter what you think or do. You would be a mere puppet in a false system. Similarly, I don't know why they haven't taken away all your freedoms and rights- because you have none of those in a Banana Republic. The fact that we have them is proof enough for me to say that you are incorrect at the best and lying at the worst. Edited April 1 by Gromdor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVK Posted April 1 #60 Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, WVK said: Yes we are a banana republic which is why you’re wrong. When the establishment went after Trump using the Steele dossier the government began tp intervene le the will of the people. They did this because Trump was as outsider that didn’t need anyone’s money. Very dangerous, he had to go. Seem reminiscent of a banana republic Trump hate blinds one to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVK Posted April 1 #61 Share Posted April 1 5 minutes ago, WVK said: When the establishment went after Trump using the Steele dossier the government began tp intervene le the will of the people. They did this because Trump was as outsider that didn’t need anyone’s money. Very dangerous, he had to go. Seem reminiscent of a banana republic Trump hate blinds one to Hatred of Trump overrides the ability to see reality which is anyone, not just Trump , who threatens the ruling elite is going to be rested. How did Bernie do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted April 1 #62 Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, Gromdor said: You know statements like this are really telling. Not everyone is as corrupt as you and would put politics ahead of morality and our legal system. I know this is Georgia but there is plenty of corruption to go around. Trump rips into Georgia 'kangaroo court' after grand jury forewoman GIGGLED and admitted it would have been 'awesome' to subpoena him: Legal experts say she has jeopardized looming MAGA indictments Emily Kohrs has been giving clues about grand jury in series of interviews She has been on a cable TV media tour touting her involvement in the case Trump cited her and bashed Georgia's 'illegal Kangaroo Court' cont... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11781377/Georgia-grand-jury-foreman-giggles-admits-awesome-subpoena-Trump.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGB Posted April 1 #63 Share Posted April 1 5 hours ago, WVK said: Do you think Trump woul be held accountable in NYC if he were a Democrat? Yes. In fact, it was Trumps Justice department that urged putting Michael Cohen in jail for the very same crime he might be indicted for. Karma or what? And I say night because with 34 charges, who knows at this point. And who really cares? If every politician in DC past and present were convicted on evidence of crimes, hold them all accountable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGB Posted April 1 #64 Share Posted April 1 5 hours ago, WVK said: Yes we are a banana republic which is why you’re wrong. He will have his day in court and if he is guilty or innocent, I don't care. What I am happy about is that DC is put on notice that the laws apply to everyone, so I see no weaponization except from the traitor Gym Jordan, MGT and that ilk who know that if Trump goes down for his traitorous day on January 6th, they (who many it was said asked for pardons) will be exposed as well. So, they are trying to interfere in every investigation they can, calling it "weaponization." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGB Posted April 1 #65 Share Posted April 1 2 hours ago, Michelle said: I know this is Georgia but there is plenty of corruption to go around. Trump rips into Georgia 'kangaroo court' after grand jury forewoman GIGGLED and admitted it would have been 'awesome' to subpoena him: Legal experts say she has jeopardized looming MAGA indictments Emily Kohrs has been giving clues about grand jury in series of interviews She has been on a cable TV media tour touting her involvement in the case Trump cited her and bashed Georgia's 'illegal Kangaroo Court' cont... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11781377/Georgia-grand-jury-foreman-giggles-admits-awesome-subpoena-Trump.html Can Trump explain why it is an "illegal Kangaroo court?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted April 1 #66 Share Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, MGB said: Can Trump explain why it is an "illegal Kangaroo court?" What would you call it if the jury foreman, in a court case about you, made the rounds on talk shows? She giggled and talked about wanting to get him on the stand. It made it appear she had already found him guilty before the trial even began. Attorneys on both sides were livid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted April 2 #67 Share Posted April 2 12 hours ago, Michelle said: What would you call it if the jury foreman, in a court case about you, made the rounds on talk shows? She giggled and talked about wanting to get him on the stand. It made it appear she had already found him guilty before the trial even began. Attorneys on both sides were livid. She was the foreman of the Grand Jury that gave her opinion after her duty was done. I did a DUI trial as a jury and I laughed about it to my friends after the fact too. It doesn't mean justice was tainted, merely that the crime was so blatant and obvious that it couldn't be anything but funny. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 2 #68 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 19 hours ago, WVK said: When the establishment went after Trump using the Steele dossier the government began tp intervene le the will of the people. They did this because Trump was as outsider that didn’t need anyone’s money. Very dangerous, he had to go. Seem reminiscent of a banana republic Trump hate blinds one to Trump did a helluva job pushing himself, especially AG Barr, to take out his political enemies pot kettle black Edited April 2 by Unusual Tournament 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 2 #69 Share Posted April 2 19 hours ago, Michelle said: I know this is Georgia but there is plenty of corruption to go around. Trump rips into Georgia 'kangaroo court' after grand jury forewoman GIGGLED and admitted it would have been 'awesome' to subpoena him: Legal experts say she has jeopardized looming MAGA indictments Emily Kohrs has been giving clues about grand jury in series of interviews She has been on a cable TV media tour touting her involvement in the case Trump cited her and bashed Georgia's 'illegal Kangaroo Court' cont... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11781377/Georgia-grand-jury-foreman-giggles-admits-awesome-subpoena-Trump.html Trump can bash all he likes, but one thing is certain he won’t go down alone. Those that rose with him and served under him will all be very nervous come Tuesday. It’s gonna be a case of which rats are gonna start ratting out the others. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGB Posted April 2 #70 Share Posted April 2 He said yesterday "HOW MUCH MORE ARE AMERICAN PATRIOTS GOING TO TAKE?" Foolish "Patriots" will see this as a call to arms to rise up from him in violence. When Patriots have had enough what do they do? Do they peacefully protest or rise up in arms? So you see, he is calling for violence but they sentence is construed in a way to be seen as harmless. Just watch what happens over the next 4 months or so. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted April 2 #71 Share Posted April 2 46 minutes ago, MGB said: He said yesterday "HOW MUCH MORE ARE AMERICAN PATRIOTS GOING TO TAKE?" Foolish "Patriots" will see this as a call to arms to rise up from him in violence. When Patriots have had enough what do they do? Do they peacefully protest or rise up in arms? So you see, he is calling for violence but they sentence is construed in a way to be seen as harmless. Just watch what happens over the next 4 months or so. Trump said it 2 days ago, not yesterday, but who's counting? Anyways, here's the full TRUTH ! https://truthsocial.com/users/realDonaldTrump/statuses/110120037597925298 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted April 3 #72 Share Posted April 3 On 4/1/2023 at 7:15 AM, WVK said: Do you think Trump woul be held accountable in NYC if he were a Democrat? Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted April 3 #73 Share Posted April 3 16 hours ago, acidhead said: Trump said it 2 days ago, not yesterday, but who's counting? Anyways, here's the full TRUTH ! https://truthsocial.com/users/realDonaldTrump/statuses/110120037597925298 I never looked at Truth social. Is RetTruths really what they call sharing post? For people who often like to cite 1984, they really like to use an Orwellian sounding platform. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieChecker Posted April 6 #74 Share Posted April 6 On 4/2/2023 at 4:25 AM, Unusual Tournament said: Trump can bash all he likes, but one thing is certain he won’t go down alone. Those that rose with him and served under him will all be very nervous come Tuesday. It’s gonna be a case of which rats are gonna start ratting out the others. If there's one thing I learned getting caught with a big box of liquor in my college dorm, with 7 other guys... Is that if you all get your s#it straight and all say the same lie, everyone walks. Trumps guys are going to be clams, IMHO, the snitches have already gone over for Mueller. They did Trump a favor and rooted out every single disloyal employee out of his service. Bragg is the one who is nervous IMHO. He only filed with the crap evidence he has, because statuette of limitations is about to expire on his case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted April 6 #75 Share Posted April 6 On 4/2/2023 at 12:48 AM, Gromdor said: If this is true, then it doesn't matter what you think or do. what… and the opinion of the general population matters? All that the state cares is that people vote, as commanded, when commanded. On 4/2/2023 at 12:48 AM, Gromdor said: You would be a mere puppet in a false system. tell me they care about the voters, go on. On 4/2/2023 at 12:48 AM, Gromdor said: Similarly, I don't know why they haven't taken away all your freedoms and rights- because you have none of those in a Banana Republic. The fact that we have them is proof enough for me to say that you are incorrect at the best and lying at the worst. What right do you have that do not exist at the whim of those in power. Freedom of speech? Some sod just got charged for making a joke during the 2016 election (the joke being “telling Democrats to vote on Wednesday”). Right to bear arms? Good luck out shooting the police, let alone the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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