Crazy Horse Posted May 22, 2023 #326 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 minute ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Crazy Horse Evidence is somethinng that can be observed and tested independantly to get the same results. It is obvious that you do not understand this and using the word improperly. No, evidence points to a truth. Proof is what is actually observed and tested, with the same results. So it is in actual fact, it is you who is using the word improperly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted May 22, 2023 #327 Share Posted May 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: Well we should all be thankful that you are here to speak for everybody else. Some people would call that narcissistic. And btw, you have no idea what my estimation, concerning my perceived knowledge of consciousness, is. Which is sadly, yet more narcissism on your part. cormac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 22, 2023 #328 Share Posted May 22, 2023 So here is an amazing discussion concerning Christ, His teachings, who He was, and what happened to His teaching in the past, to the present. For anyone actually interested in His more esoteric message, and its importance in todays world.. This is highly recommended. Stunning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted May 22, 2023 #329 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: It really doesn't. The personal opinion comes about after one has, (more or less) finished their discernment. I say "more or less" because with new evidence, one has to renew their original discernment. And if the new evidence doesn't fit ones paradigm, then the paradigm shifts. Every piece of the jigsaw, (every insight) allows one to see the bigger picture that much clearer. What that picture turns out to be, is none of my concern. An add to: have you ever considered additional training and development in the are of critical application? It does come across as you really do not understand empirical evidence and objectivity, the scientific method. Edited May 22, 2023 by Sherapy 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted May 22, 2023 #330 Share Posted May 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: No, evidence points to a truth. Proof is what is actually observed and tested, with the same results. So it is in actual fact, it is you who is using the word improperly. Hi Crazy Horse You walk into s room and there is a body laying on the floor with his head bashed in. Near by there is a carpenters framing hammer with blood on the claws and head. There are bloody finger prints on the hammer that identify the culprit. The evidence is the hammer, the blood, and the fingerprints and what they prove is the hammer was used to kill the victim as the blood was the victims. The bloody fingerprint prove that the suspect used the hammmer to kill the victim. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted May 22, 2023 Author #331 Share Posted May 22, 2023 2 hours ago, lightly said: Sorry for being off topic Abe No problem. The topic has changed to 'Crazy Horse' so I don't care. Talk about your bbq if you want. Your story was interesting, btw. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted May 22, 2023 #332 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Abramelin said: No problem. The topic has changed to 'Crazy Horse' so I don't care. Talk about your bbq if you want. Your story was interesting, btw. Sorry Abramelin to be a huge part of derailing the thread. Edited May 22, 2023 by Sherapy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted May 22, 2023 #333 Share Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 4:57 AM, Will Due said: I don't think that's exactly right. "The kingdom of God is within you" God's presence dwells within everyone. Which is why you can end up knowing who Jesus really is, like many people have been doing for two thousand years without reading the gospels and other books in the NT and OT. That's called imagination. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted May 22, 2023 #334 Share Posted May 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Crazy Horse said: Well we should all be thankful that you are here to speak for everybody else. Some people would call that narcissistic. And btw, you have no idea what my estimation, concerning my perceived knowledge of consciousness, is. Which is sadly, yet more narcissism on your part. This is in error, CH Cormac doesn’t display the characteristics of narcissism. A narcissist routinely overestimates themselves, their behaviors are often centered around how superior they think they are and claim attributes that are not in evidence, they have great difficulty recognizing their own limitations, feedback is often met by blaming others or blamed on other external factors rather than recognizing their own shortcomings. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted May 23, 2023 #335 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I was surfing for info on “Indulgences” (basically, monetary offerings to the Church for ,sort of, partial payment for sins?) And info on forgiveness.. found this link which has many many Bible book verses (name&numbers) about Forgiveness….in the Old&New testaments. I was wondering about ((Forgiveness)) boosting Jesus’ appeal. ..from Isaiah 9 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, [2] Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted May 23, 2023 #336 Share Posted May 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Sherapy said: This is in error, CH Cormac doesn’t display the characteristics of narcissism. A narcissist routinely overestimates themselves, their behaviors are often centered around how superior they think they are and claim attributes that are not in evidence, they have great difficulty recognizing their own limitations, feedback is often met by blaming others or blamed on other external factors rather than recognizing their own shortcomings. I’m not worried about “Walker, Jr.” I’ve been here since 2008, CH has been here for a minute. And I didn’t say everybody I said MANY, and of those that have posted in this thread no one besides Will Due, CH’s trained monkey, has shown any suggestion they think CH knows what he’s talking about. He should be asking himself why. cormac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted May 23, 2023 #337 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, lightly said: I was surfing for info on “Indulgences” (basically, monetary offerings to the Church for ,sort of, partial payment for sins?) And info on forgiveness.. found this link which has many many Bible book verses (name&numbers) about Forgiveness….in the Old&New testaments. I was wondering about ((Forgiveness)) boosting Jesus’ appeal. ..from Isaiah 9 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, [2] Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this. I’d expect that to go as well for a Prince of Peace as the idea of city-states led by religion went for the Sumerians, ie. not well at all. Taken literally that wouldn’t go well with other NE countries as the United Monarchy was larger than modern Israel. cormac Edited May 23, 2023 by cormac mac airt 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted May 23, 2023 #338 Share Posted May 23, 2023 50 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: I’m not worried about “Walker, Jr.” I’ve been here since 2008, CH has been here for a minute. And I didn’t say everybody I said MANY, and of those that have posted in this thread no one besides Will Due, CH’s trained monkey, has shown any suggestion they think CH knows what he’s talking about. He should be asking himself why. cormac Good to hear you let it roll off. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted May 23, 2023 #339 Share Posted May 23, 2023 You wanna hear a funny story? I used to believe in Jesus, but I don’t now. I once believed in Robert Monroe, but upon further years of reflection, and re-read, I believe, but I also disbelieve. I’m just saying. I do believe in woo, but it can’t be quantified, measured, put in a box, or stuck a label on. But, I will say this this. Thank God I played a killer show tonight. Whew! I only effed up once, and that was when I was fully light up. Praise the gods. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbloodmoon Posted May 23, 2023 #340 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Get your pieces of Jesus here, for just six silver you can get a lock of hair, a vial of holy hangnails (finger nails not the other ones), and a bag of foreskins (I’m sure the others belong to Moses, Noah, Job, and other fictional protagonists in the bible). First come first serve, next week we’re selling Book Of Mormon hero bitties. wait not those type of pieces? Was Jesus a man of peace? Let me go and dig up some money lenders, be back in a bit. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 23, 2023 #341 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, newbloodmoon said: Get your pieces of Jesus here, for just six silver you can get a lock of hair, a vial of holy hangnails (finger nails not the other ones), and a bag of foreskins (I’m sure the others belong to Moses, Noah, Job, and other fictional protagonists in the bible). First come first serve, next week we’re selling Book Of Mormon hero bitties. wait not those type of pieces? Was Jesus a man of peace? Let me go and dig up some money lenders, be back in a bit. Mid fourth century AD, that was pretty much everyone's schtick in Jerusalem. Christianity was legal and the tourists (pilgrims) were flocking to the place. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight bits Posted May 23, 2023 #342 Share Posted May 23, 2023 7 hours ago, lightly said: ..from Isaiah 9 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, [2] Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Everybody loves the Hallelieuia chorus, but the Isaiah 9 portion of Handel's Messiah is also excellent (and fun to sing). You look at that text, scratch your head and think, how could anybody set that to music? Behold. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted May 23, 2023 #343 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Beautiful. . *Honk!* Here’s the link I forgot to remember to include ! Bible verses Old&New about Forgiveness. https://christiancourier.com/articles/was-there-forgiveness-under-the-law-of-moses 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted May 23, 2023 #344 Share Posted May 23, 2023 8 hours ago, eight bits said: Everybody loves the Hallelieuia chorus, but the Isaiah 9 portion of Handel's Messiah is also excellent (and fun to sing). You look at that text, scratch your head and think, how could anybody set that to music? Behold. Lovely 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted May 23, 2023 #345 Share Posted May 23, 2023 19 hours ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Crazy Horse You walk into s room and there is a body laying on the floor with his head bashed in. Near by there is a carpenters framing hammer with blood on the claws and head. There are bloody finger prints on the hammer that identify the culprit. The evidence is the hammer, the blood, and the fingerprints and what they prove is the hammer was used to kill the victim as the blood was the victims. The bloody fingerprint prove that the suspect used the hammmer to kill the victim. Hi j, so. . Did they catch him!? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted May 23, 2023 #346 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Crazy Horse You walk into s room and there is a body laying on the floor with his head bashed in. Near by there is a carpenters framing hammer with blood on the claws and head. There are bloody finger prints on the hammer that identify the culprit. The evidence is the hammer, the blood, and the fingerprints and what they prove is the hammer was used to kill the victim as the blood was the victims. The bloody fingerprint prove that the suspect used the hammmer to kill the victim. You forgot to mention the words JESUS WUZ HERE written in blood on the floor next to the body. Edited May 23, 2023 by Antigonos 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted May 23, 2023 #347 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, lightly said: Hi j, so. . Did they catch him!? Hi Lightly Not sure will have to see if Orficer Crazy Horse follows the evidence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted May 23, 2023 #348 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Lightly Not sure will have to see if Orficer Crazy Horse follows the evidence. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted May 23, 2023 #349 Share Posted May 23, 2023 @Abramelin Given how some followers of Jesus have used violence to spead the word since the inception of Chritianity I am reminded of the apple from the tree scenerio. There has been no peace attributed to Jesus to date. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted May 23, 2023 #350 Share Posted May 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: @Abramelin Given how some followers of Jesus have used violence to spead the word since the inception of Chritianity I am reminded of the apple from the tree scenerio. There has been no peace attributed to Jesus to date. Yes I was going to mention things like the Crusades and various European Inquisitions as examples of such “peace” but at this point it would be redundant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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