A.I. Computers will Kill Us

[iAlrakis]

after doing some more reading about this it seems possible AI can kill us but only if we allow it.  Meaning that we need a set of rules for it to follow, just like Asimov came it with rules for robots.

Not sure if the article/test was real but it was a great example anyway.  Let's say we train AI to fly drones and make sure the enemy is killed.  Now add to that a real pilot that does something that in the AI's calculations lowers the chance of killing the enemy.  How will it respond?  Will it kill?

Better be safe than sorry right.

But in general I think it's more about clickbait and getting attention for a technology you're working on than a real threat. 

[Alchopwn]

Someone probably needs to mention the Roko's Basilisk thought experiment, if we haven't already.

[+joc]

4 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

Someone probably needs to mention the Roko's Basilisk thought experiment, if we haven't already.

Thanks for mentioning that.  I've never heard of it...but AI has, and so, it is already part of it's curriculum.

I don't know, I see the danger of AI as somewhat analogous to the highway systems we have.  One could say the highways are deadly.  In reality it is the stupidity of those driving that is deadly.  In other words, AI taking over our lives is correlated to everything else that we allow to take over our lives...phones, cars, tvs, etc.  In the end it isn't AI that is dangerous.  It is our own stupidity that makes AI dangerous.

Edited June 4 by joc

[Alchopwn]

10 hours ago, joc said:

Thanks for mentioning that.  I've never heard of it...but AI has, and so, it is already part of it's curriculum.

I don't know, I see the danger of AI as somewhat analogous to the highway systems we have.  One could say the highways are deadly.  In reality it is the stupidity of those driving that is deadly.  In other words, AI taking over our lives is correlated to everything else that we allow to take over our lives...phones, cars, tvs, etc.  In the end it isn't AI that is dangerous.  It is our own stupidity that makes AI dangerous.

JEEZUS ! ! !  NOW I'M GODDAMNED TERRIFIED ! ! !  HAVE YOU MET PEOPLE ? ? ? 

[psyche101]

On 6/3/2023 at 9:26 AM, Guyver said:

Adding a negative is subtracting.

It's adding a negative. A long way around because a computer can't simply subtract -   adding is straightforward, whereas for subtracting you have to indicate which one is the minuend and which is the subtrahend.

On 6/3/2023 at 9:26 AM, Guyver said:

 And yes, they can invent, they have invented language that people don’t understand.

No, that was a type of shorthand. It's not an "invention". 

The 'creepy Facebook AI' story that captivated the media

Hence my reference to GOTG3. Rocket was an anomaly because he count invent new things. Nothing else the high evolutionary created could think of new things. Only what already exists.

[Kenemet]

Honestly, people, all it takes is a simple power outage.

If a transformer blows and power gets shut down (power banks can only last so long) then the AI loses access to its data.  While there's distributed redundancy, it only goes so far and relies on the technology... and some of the web servers, etc, out there are not very robust or even very big.

And it's easily manipulated by changing its databases.

[psyche101]

3 hours ago, Kenemet said:

Honestly, people, all it takes is a simple power outage.

If a transformer blows and power gets shut down (power banks can only last so long) then the AI loses access to its data.  While there's distributed redundancy, it only goes so far and relies on the technology... and some of the web servers, etc, out there are not very robust or even very big.

And it's easily manipulated by changing its databases.

Exactly.

Or a power surge or drop a phase and create a brownout.

Machines are easily broken. 

[Hawken]

On 5/18/2023 at 2:09 AM, and-then said:

When minds like those of Hawking and Musk are concerned, that's more than enough to justify being concerned.  The real danger is that we cnnot stop it now.  National militaries will demand the research for weaponization and they'll get it.

Yes, Hawking was concerned about advertising our whereabouts by sending probes into space like the Voyagers.

A hostile species could intercept the signals and come to earth and do as they please.

[+Desertrat56]

10 hours ago, Hawken said:

Yes, Hawking was concerned about advertising our whereabouts by sending probes into space like the Voyagers.

A hostile species could intercept the signals and come to earth and do as they please.

A hostile species like us?

[Hawken]

1 minute ago, Desertrat56 said:

A hostile species like us?

That's true. You even see it on these threads.

[Guyver]

So, apparently 60 minutes did a presentation on AI yesterday.  Unfortunately, I was unable to view it, although I had it dvr’d, because the golf match went long, and it was great, so good for the Canadians, their boy finally won after like 64 years or something…..anyway, I missed it.  Then, I tried to re-record the replay and that didn’t work, so I tried to buy it, couldn’t.  So, if anyone did catch that presentation, I would be interested in hearing your re-cap and opinion. Thank you.

Edited June 13 by Guyver
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[+joc]

On 6/6/2023 at 11:23 PM, Hawken said:

Yes, Hawking was concerned about advertising our whereabouts by sending probes into space like the Voyagers.

A hostile species could intercept the signals and come to earth and do as they please.

A hostile species has already been coming to Earth for the last 450,000 years.  The Annunaki.

 

[Trelane]

On 6/13/2023 at 8:05 AM, joc said:

A hostile species has already been coming to Earth for the last 450,000 years.  The Annunaki.

 

DISCLOSURE!!!!!

[Kenemet]

On 6/6/2023 at 11:23 PM, Hawken said:

Yes, Hawking was concerned about advertising our whereabouts by sending probes into space like the Voyagers.

A hostile species could intercept the signals and come to earth and do as they please.

If they're that advanced, they'd know the signals weren't a threat.

[ReadTheGreatControversyEGW]

On 5/17/2023 at 10:40 PM, Guyver said:

A.I. machines are dangerous, and could kill us.

As they're programmed to be 

[Trelane]

"A.I. Computers will Kill Us"

God, I hope so. If it means the end of speculative sci-fi nonsense, then so be it.