Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 #1 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I think this is an interesting subject. How to "fight", (and there are many ways to fight) the evil in the world, without promulgating more wickedness, and becoming that dark force? So for those of us who want to know the truth/Truth and sharing in the many beautiful environments arising from that, and for those of us wishing for peace, and all the many wonderful situations arising from that, what are the best tactics and strategies to engage, to shine a light, but without getting caught-up in the chaos and confusing of Samsara? I have a few ideas, but I would like to hear other folks thoughts, first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightAngel Posted May 21, 2023 #2 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I think we all have to face our own "evil" before we can even think about fighting the evil of others. Since it is the most painful and difficult thing to do then most people won't. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 Author #3 Share Posted May 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, LightAngel said: I think we all have to face our own "evil" before we can even think about fighting the evil of others. Since it is the most painful and difficult thing to do then most people won't. Yes, that is a very good point, fundamental in fact. But the old saying, "What you resist, persists" springs to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightAngel Posted May 21, 2023 #4 Share Posted May 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: Yes, that is a very good point, fundamental in fact. But the old saying, "What you resist, persists" springs to mind. If you resist dealing with your own "evil" - then, of course, it will persist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 Author #5 Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, LightAngel said: If you resist dealing with your own "evil" - then, of course, it will persist. OK, then lets start with oneself.. What is this "evil" within? And what might one do to arrest that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightAngel Posted May 21, 2023 #6 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said: OK, then lets start with oneself.. What is this "evil" within? And what might one do to arrest that? Nobody can really answer that question for you. You have to look for the answers within. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted May 21, 2023 #7 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Crazy Horse said: I think this is an interesting subject. How to "fight", (and there are many ways to fight) the evil in the world, without promulgating more wickedness, and becoming that dark force? Evil? Dark Force? I believe some guy has recently invented a working lightsaber. Use that if you believe in such sith. 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted May 21, 2023 #8 Share Posted May 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: What is this "evil" within? Unwillingness to adjust to reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 21, 2023 #9 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Sounds like original-sin-tainting-us-all territory, a splinter in the mind's eye. More often than we like to think, good and evil are in the eye of the beholder. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted May 21, 2023 #10 Share Posted May 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: What is this "evil" within? Having it your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 Author #11 Share Posted May 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, LightAngel said: Nobody can really answer that question for you. You have to look for the answers within. OK, so personally speaking, I would say that there are different degrees of wickedness, from pure evil, to a little white lie. But evil, I would say, is the ability to seriously hurt another person without remorse. But lets assume that most people aren't that bad.. So I guess the "evil" within is having double standards? Saying one thing, and doing another! To various degrees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted May 21, 2023 #12 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Just now, Will Due said: Unwillingness to adjust to reality. Oh it's way worse than that WD. Some people actively choose to ignore their moral compass. Some do it because they are mentally ill, and are sociopaths or psychopaths. Some choose to hurt people simply because they are sadists and like to dominate other people. Some do bad things because it will bring them material gain. Some act out of ignorance. Some do bad things because they consider such acts to be "badass". Worst of all, sometimes even people with the best possible intentions can work the most hideous misery on their fellow humans. These last people are often the very worst offenders as they are so convinced their actions are righteous. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted May 21, 2023 #13 Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: good and evil are in the eye of the beholder. Not if you can tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 Author #14 Share Posted May 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: Evil? Dark Force? I believe some guy has recently invented a working lightsaber. Use that if you believe in such sith. I believe in doing good, abiding in love, with wisdom and kind-heartedness. I believe in human potential too. And an all loving GOD. And I am trying to figure out a way to best employ these ideals into everyday life to make things less miserable. For everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 Author #15 Share Posted May 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, Will Due said: Unwillingness to adjust to reality. And personally, I would suggest that the greatest way to discern reality, is by feeling what is right, and what is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 Author #16 Share Posted May 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Sounds like original-sin-tainting-us-all territory, a splinter in the mind's eye. More often than we like to think, good and evil are in the eye of the beholder. Can you give us an example..? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted May 21, 2023 #17 Share Posted May 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: Oh it's way worse than that WD. Some people actively choose to ignore their moral compass. Some do it because they are mentally ill, and are sociopaths or psychopaths. Some choose to hurt people simply because they are sadists and like to dominate other people. Some do bad things because it will bring them material gain. Some act out of ignorance. Some do bad things because they consider such acts to be "badass". Worst of all, sometimes even people with the best possible intentions can work the most hideous misery on their fellow humans. These last people are often the very worst offenders as they are so convinced their actions are righteous. So it looks like we are in agreement once again. Perhaps what you said sheds some light. "Why do you call me good?" "None is good but God." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 Author #18 Share Posted May 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Will Due said: Having it your way. If you mean the ego, having its own way, over the will of GOD? Then yes, I would agree. With various degrees of seriousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 Author #19 Share Posted May 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: Oh it's way worse than that WD. Some people actively choose to ignore their moral compass. Some do it because they are mentally ill, and are sociopaths or psychopaths. Some choose to hurt people simply because they are sadists and like to dominate other people. Some do bad things because it will bring them material gain. Some act out of ignorance. Some do bad things because they consider such acts to be "badass". Worst of all, sometimes even people with the best possible intentions can work the most hideous misery on their fellow humans. These last people are often the very worst offenders as they are so convinced their actions are righteous. And so the question is. How can an individual, or groups of people, "fight" this wickedness, without exasperating the already inflamed situation? And without being an hypocrite, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted May 21, 2023 #20 Share Posted May 21, 2023 The difference between good and evil is not a matter of it being "in the eye of the beholder". Never has been. Never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted May 21, 2023 #21 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Ask this guy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted May 21, 2023 #22 Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: over the will of GOD? Yes. That's why when somebody told him he was good he instantly said that "None is good but God". Because there isn't anything good whatsoever in "having it your way". Not even if you're Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted May 21, 2023 #23 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Antigonos said: Ask this guy. Are you kidding me???? He blew up Alderaan, a peaceful planet! 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted May 21, 2023 #24 Share Posted May 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: With various degrees of seriousness. When it comes to doing good or evil (in a final sense) there is only one degree of seriousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted May 21, 2023 Author #25 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Will Due said: Yes. That's why when somebody told him he was good he instantly said that "None is good but God". Because there isn't anything good whatsoever in "having it your way". Not even if you're Jesus. But we both agree that there is a way of salvation, away from sin, and the mundane world.. We might differ upon our individual routes, or we might agree, the point being that ones choices may lift, or depress, ones ability to know that Kingdom within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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