Russian Belgorod oblast is having a rebellion

[Unusual Tournament]

Belgorod region just announced a counter-terrorist operation. This is now clearly shaping up to be a very serious development 

Ukraine war: Saboteurs cross into Russia's Belgorod, governor says

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65674773.amp

 

Edited May 22 by Unusual Tournament

[Unusual Tournament]

[Occult1]

It doesn't seem to be a 'rebellion', more like some organized groups taking orders from Kyiv stirring trouble inside Belgorod. Zelensky is apparently very much in favor of staging some bold attacks inside Russian border towns, as revealed by the leaked papers.

Edited May 22 by Occult1

[Stiff]

"A group of Russian insurgents known as the Freedom of Russia Legion, who are aligned with the Ukrainian Armed Forces, crossed the border with Russia's Belgorod Oblast on the 22th of May 2023. The Freedom of Russia Legion, a unit that consists only of Russian volunteers, subsequently announced that it and the Russian Volunteer Corps (a different group reportedly responsible for an incursion into the Bryansk region in March) had secured the village of Kozinka in the Belgorod region, and that its forward detachments had entered the town of Grayvoron. 

 

A Ukrainian official acknowledged that the Freedom of Russia Legion had carried out a cross-border incursion in the area but stressed they were acting independently. [1] Vyacheslav Gladkov, the governor of Russia's Belgorod region, announced Monday that a ''Ukrainian military sabotage and reconnaissance group'' had entered the region’s Grayvoronsky district. ''Russian military forces as well as the border service, the Russian National Guard, and the Federal Security Service, are taking the necessary steps to eliminate the enemy,'' Gladkov vowed on Telegram. [2]"

 

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2023/05/the-ballad-of-belgorod-listing.html

[Unusual Tournament]

29 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

It doesn't seem to be a 'rebellion', more like some organized groups taking orders from Kyiv stirring trouble inside Belgorod. Zelensky is apparently very much in favor of staging some bold attacks inside Russian border towns, as revealed by the leaked papers.

…regardless, it’s a never ending tit for tat. I’m expecting a Russian response and a Ukrainian one after that

[Occult1]

19 minutes ago, Stiff said:

"A group of Russian insurgents known as the Freedom of Russia Legion, who are aligned with the Ukrainian Armed Forces, crossed the border with Russia's Belgorod Oblast on the 22th of May 2023. The Freedom of Russia Legion, a unit that consists only of Russian volunteers, subsequently announced that it and the Russian Volunteer Corps (a different group reportedly responsible for an incursion into the Bryansk region in March) had secured the village of Kozinka in the Belgorod region, and that its forward detachments had entered the town of Grayvoron. 

 

A Ukrainian official acknowledged that the Freedom of Russia Legion had carried out a cross-border incursion in the area but stressed they were acting independently. [1] Vyacheslav Gladkov, the governor of Russia's Belgorod region, announced Monday that a ''Ukrainian military sabotage and reconnaissance group'' had entered the region’s Grayvoronsky district. ''Russian military forces as well as the border service, the Russian National Guard, and the Federal Security Service, are taking the necessary steps to eliminate the enemy,'' Gladkov vowed on Telegram. [2]"

 

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2023/05/the-ballad-of-belgorod-listing.html

They are not acting "independantly". That's just a cover. If Ukraine admits responsability, we will also have to look at the fact that NATO-supplied weapons and ammo are being used to launch attacks on Russian soil.

Edited May 22 by Occult1

[Stiff]

5 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

They are not acting "independantly". That's just a cover.

In your opinion, which to most,  means Jack Schitt.

[Occult1]

1 hour ago, Stiff said:

In your opinion, which to most,  means Jack Schitt.

So what do you make of this?:

Zelenskyy, in private, plots bold attacks inside Russia, leak shows

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/may/13/zelenskyy-in-private-plots-bold-attacks-inside-rus/

Edited May 22 by Occult1

[spartan max2]

With any luck they will kill Putin and replace him with someone who cares about Russians 

[Setton]

17 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

So what do you make of this?:

Zelenskyy, in private, plots bold attacks inside Russia, leak shows

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/may/13/zelenskyy-in-private-plots-bold-attacks-inside-rus/

Even if this is true (and I stress 'if' since I find you slightly less reliable than Putin on this matter), it doesn't mean they're using NATO weapons. Ukraine has plenty of its own weapons too, just not as good.

[Occult1]

19 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

With any luck they will kill Putin and replace him with someone who cares about Russians 

The Russian Volunteer Corps is headed by Russian far-right extremist and former mixed martial arts fighter Denis Nikitin and is composed of other Russians opposed to the Putin regime. Nikitin, who ran a white nationalist clothing company before the full-scale invasion, did not respond to requests for comment on Monday. But he posted several videos to the group’s Telegram channel that appeared to show armed members of the group on Russian territory in the Belgorod area.''

[...]

Nikitin, 38, a polyglot who also goes by the name Denis Kapustin and the nom de guerre Rex after his white nationalist clothing brand, White Rex, is a former mixed martial arts fighter with ties to neo-Nazis and white nationalists across the western world.

https://www.ft.com/content/8811c49c-0549-4ce9-9730-6b67ac66a029

 

Doesn't seem ''better'' than Putin.

Edited May 22 by Occult1

[spartan max2]

5 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

The Russian Volunteer Corps is headed by Russian far-right extremist and former mixed martial arts fighter Denis Nikitin and is composed of other Russians opposed to the Putin regime. Nikitin, who ran a white nationalist clothing company before the full-scale invasion, did not respond to requests for comment on Monday. But he posted several videos to the group’s Telegram channel that appeared to show armed members of the group on Russian territory in the Belgorod area.''

[...]

Nikitin, 38, a polyglot who also goes by the name Denis Kapustin and the nom de guerre Rex after his white nationalist clothing brand, White Rex, is a former mixed martial arts fighter with ties to neo-Nazis and white nationalists across the western world.

https://www.ft.com/content/8811c49c-0549-4ce9-9730-6b67ac66a029

 

Doesn't seem ''better'' than Putin.

I don't trust you or your source in the slightest when it comes to calling groups Nazis.

And even if so then hopefully Putin and them can kill each other and Russians will finally be free.

Putin has sacrificed for many young Russians and Ukrainians of all ages for his ego.

 

Edited May 22 by spartan max2

[Occult1]

6 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

I don't trust you or your source in the slightest when it comes to calling groups Nazis.

And even if so than hopefully Putin and them can kill each other and Russians will finally be free.

 

''My source'' is Western mainstream media in this case. What are your reason(s) for disagreeing with these reports?

How Russians end up in a far-right militia fighting in Ukraine

''The unit says on its Telegram channel it wants to see the dissolution of modern-day Russia into different ethnic states, leaving a Russian state where Russians would be the dominant ethnic group. It sports the symbols of the anti-communist Russian Liberation Army, which fought under Nazi command during World War Two.''

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/how-russians-end-up-far-right-militia-fighting-ukraine-2023-05-11/

Edited May 22 by Occult1

[jmccr8]

44 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

So what do you make of this?:

Zelenskyy, in private, plots bold attacks inside Russia, leak shows

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/may/13/zelenskyy-in-private-plots-bold-attacks-inside-rus/

Hi Occult

Looks like an article to me, show the leaked documents might give it more impact.

[Occult1]

7 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Occult

Looks like an article to me, show the leaked documents might give it more impact.

I think the Washington Post did a pretty good job at uncovering all the relevant information in the leaked documents.

[jmccr8]

3 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

I think the Washington Post did a pretty good job at uncovering all the relevant information in the leaked documents.

Hi Occult

It is an article that talks about an interpretation of leaked documents without actually seeing the full disclosure of documents it is just speculation for sale.

[Grim Reaper 6]

 

[Alchopwn]

I think it is pretty great that Russians who are sickened by Putin's dictatorship are now beginning an insurgency to unseat him.  I seriously hope they win.

[Unusual Tournament]

4 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

I think it is pretty great that Russians who are sickened by Putin's dictatorship are now beginning an insurgency to unseat him.  I seriously hope they win.

Well at this stage there is some confusion as to who these rebels actually are. They could be Russians or Ukrainians. It’s also been said that they’re ultra right wing mercenaries. 
 

Regardless, the important thing is Putin is distracted and has neglected his borders. 

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

11 hours ago, Occult1 said:

''My source'' is Western mainstream media in this case. What are your reason(s) for disagreeing with these reports?

How Russians end up in a far-right militia fighting in Ukraine

''The unit says on its Telegram channel it wants to see the dissolution of modern-day Russia into different ethnic states, leaving a Russian state where Russians would be the dominant ethnic group. It sports the symbols of the anti-communist Russian Liberation Army, which fought under Nazi command during World War Two.''

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/how-russians-end-up-far-right-militia-fighting-ukraine-2023-05-11/

So what you are saying is that we need to invade Russia to de-nazify it ? 

I'm sure you would agree with that, because otherwise you would be a hypocrite.

[Buzz_Light_Year]

2 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Well at this stage there is some confusion as to who these rebels actually are. They could be Russians or Ukrainians. It’s also been said that they’re ultra right wing mercenaries. 
 

Regardless, the important thing is Putin is distracted and has neglected his borders. 

It's the British. LOL Look at the shoulder patch. Probably a donated uniform.

 

[CrimsonKing]

Reckon Putin can be tricked into tactically nuking his own "regions"? 

[Occult1]

Belgorod raid: Insurgents defeated after rare cross-border incursion - Russia

Armed insurgents who crossed the border from Ukraine to launch attacks in Russia's Belgorod region have been defeated, Moscow says.

Villages in the border region were evacuated after coming under sustained shellfire.

Russia says that 70 of the attackers have been killed and insists the fighters are Ukrainian.

But Kyiv has denied involvement and two Russian paramilitary groups have said they were behind the incursion.''

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65683374

 

Looks like it's already over.

[jmccr8]

40 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Reckon Putin can be tricked into tactically nuking his own "regions"? 

Hi Crimson

Would be interesting to see wjat happens if the rebels overtook the nearby nuclear storagesiie

[Occult1]

5 hours ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

So what you are saying is that we need to invade Russia to de-nazify it ? 

I'm sure you would agree with that, because otherwise you would be a hypocrite.

The insurgents came from Ukraine though. They are aligned with the Ukrainian army. They crossed the border to enter the Belgorod region.

Edited May 23 by Occult1