Connecticut 'witches' exonerated 370 years later

[Eldorado]

Connecticut lawmakers have voted to exonerate 12 people more than 370 years after they were convicted of witchcraft in colonial America.

Eleven of the 12 were hanged after trials that the state Senate now acknowledges were a "miscarriage of justice".

It follows a long-running campaign by descendants to clear the names of those wrongfully accused of being witches.

Dozens were executed for witchcraft in the US in the 17th Century.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65724066

[Piney]

Several hundred days late and a few hundred dollars short.

Puritans were such savages....

[Great Old Man]

Even Human law permits withcraft, the god knows everything and It is evident that god will purnish witchcraft.

every magic remains the proof!

 

Isaiah 47:12-14

Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.

Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

[Piney]

6 minutes ago, Great Old Man said:

Even Human law permits withcraft, the god knows everything and It is evident that god will purnish witchcraft.

every magic remains the proof!

 

Isaiah 47:12-14

Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.

Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

You really need to ditch G.I Joe's missionaries' nonsense and become part of the Shamanism revival which is your birthright.

You should be a creator and protector like your ancestors. Not a fearful superstitious believer.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Good to see the politicians are focusing on the important issues affecting their voting polis.

[Great Old Man]

44 minutes ago, Piney said:

You really need to ditch G.I Joe's missionaries' nonsense and become part of the Shamanism revival which is your birthright.

You should be a creator and protector like your ancestors. Not a fearful superstitious believer.

I think it is orignated from the rivarly between heaven and earth.

Heavenly god's doesn't to want to intefere, However local deities from the shamanism want to interfere the problem of Human.

[Piney]

Just now, Great Old Man said:

I think it is orignated from the rivarly between heaven and earth.

Heavenly god's doesn't to want to intefere, However local deities from the shamanism want to interfere the problem of Human.

A perfect being isn't concerned with rivalry, or anything else.

It has no wants, loves, hates, desires. It's complete and there is nothing for it. Such is Tian, the Living Universe.

Local deities are created by the Shaman out of the energy of the Perfect Being, the Living Universe and are actually irrelevant in the 21st Century.

Those poor women weren't witches. Just victims of hate.

 

 

[Great Old Man]

15 minutes ago, Piney said:

A perfect being isn't concerned with rivalry, or anything else.

It has no wants, loves, hates, desires. It's complete and there is nothing for it. Such is Tian, the Living Universe.

Local deities are created by the Shaman out of the energy of the Perfect Being, the Living Universe and are actually irrelevant in the 21st Century.

Those poor women weren't witches. Just victims of hate.

 

 

which is white rabbit. isn't it? good perspective.

 

However, there is a real witch who can cast a magic.

Remebmer, Indonesia prohibited black magic

[Piney]

2 minutes ago, Great Old Man said:

which is white rabbit. isn't it? good perspective.

 

However, there is a real witch who can cast a magic.

Remebmer, Indonesia prohibited black magic

I can cast and I did on superstitious fools.

Indonesian dark magic involves fetuses from murdered women. It was banned because of the murder part. Not because of simple spells.

 

[eight bits]

Cheap virtue signalling.

Connecticut's witch history is very different from Massachusetts'. Connecticut is the union of two colonies, a Puritan theocracy centered at New Haven, and a secular state founded by the alchemist John Winthrop, Jr (son of the Massachusetts Bay governor). Guess which one persecuted witches and which one didn't.

Winthrop was a long-serving governor of the united colony, and routinely used his executive power to nullify witch convictions. The alchemists knew that commerce with the devil was superstitious BS, and as a practical matter, that they did things by natural means more impressive than anything any witch was ever accused of. However, to obtain the royal charter that perfected the merger, Governor Winthrop had to leave Connecticut to go to London. Four of the eleven executions mentioned in CT House Joint Resolution 34 occurred during his absence.

If Connecticut wants to do something, then forget apologizing for what you didn't do, and "exonerating" those whose suffering you cannot relieve. Teach the living what killed these people, a power struggle between religiously motivated politicians and ordinary rational people. "Witches" weren't persecuted at random throughout Connecticut history, and they weren't persecuted in the Salem style of panic, either. In Connecticut, "witches" were persecuted only when and where the theocrats had the upper hand, and the theocrats proceeded deliberately and (literally) judiciously.

Edited May 27, 2023 by eight bits

[Alchopwn]

3 hours ago, Eldorado said:

Connecticut lawmakers have voted to exonerate 12 people more than 370 years after they were convicted of witchcraft in colonial America.

Eleven of the 12 were hanged after trials that the state Senate now acknowledges were a "miscarriage of justice".

It follows a long-running campaign by descendants to clear the names of those wrongfully accused of being witches.

Dozens were executed for witchcraft in the US in the 17th Century.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65724066

Pfft.  You can tell this is just members of the Connecticut Legislature trying to avoid centuries old curses on their bloodlines.  

[Antigonos]

 

In my twenties I collected several works on witchcraft written from the historical point of view. So much emphasis had been put on the Salem witch trials that up to that point I had never heard of the Connecticut events. There don’t seem to be many reliable sources on it.

The title below is the one I found for anyone reading this thread who is new to the topic and now interested.

[+OverSword]

To be fair that was before the USA existed so I'm not sure they have the authority to pardon them 

Edited May 27, 2023 by OverSword

[Antigonos]

44 minutes ago, OverSword said:

To be fair that was before the USA existed so I'm not sure they have the authority to pardon them 

Yeah the linked article doesn’t say, I’d be interested in knowing how that works. 
 

Massachusetts did the same thing for the victims of the Salem witch trials a few years ago, since they set the precedent for it the answer may be there.

An interesting aside, one of the judges at the Salem trials was John Hathorne, an ancestor of Nathaniel Hawthorne. The latter apparently was ashamed of his great great grandfather’s lack of remorse over the part he played.

Edited May 27, 2023 by Antigonos

[Piney]

5 hours ago, eight bits said:

Cheap virtue signalling.

Connecticut's witch history is very different from Massachusetts'. Connecticut is the union of two colonies, a Puritan theocracy centered at New Haven, and a secular state founded by the alchemist John Winthrop, Jr (son of the Massachusetts Bay governor). Guess which one persecuted witches and which one didn't.

Winthrop was a long-serving governor of the united colony, and routinely used his executive power to nullify witch convictions. The alchemists knew that commerce with the devil was superstitious BS, and as a practical matter, that they did things by natural means more impressive than anything any witch was ever accused of. However, to obtain the royal charter that perfected the merger, Governor Winthrop had to leave Connecticut to go to London. Four of the eleven executions mentioned in CT House Joint Resolution 34 occurred during his absence.

If Connecticut wants to do something, then forget apologizing for what you didn't do, and "exonerating" those whose suffering you cannot relieve. Teach the living what killed these people, a power struggle between religiously motivated politicians and ordinary rational people. "Witches" weren't persecuted at random throughout Connecticut history, and they weren't persecuted in the Salem style of panic, either. In Connecticut, "witches" were persecuted only when and where the theocrats had the upper hand, and the theocrats proceeded deliberately and (literally) judiciously.

Try using truth and logic with any theocratic fundy. 

Start with Lauren Boebert. 

[Antigonos]

5 hours ago, eight bits said:

Cheap virtue signalling.

Connecticut's witch history is very different from Massachusetts'. Connecticut is the union of two colonies, a Puritan theocracy centered at New Haven, and a secular state founded by the alchemist John Winthrop, Jr (son of the Massachusetts Bay governor). Guess which one persecuted witches and which one didn't.

Winthrop was a long-serving governor of the united colony, and routinely used his executive power to nullify witch convictions. The alchemists knew that commerce with the devil was superstitious BS, and as a practical matter, that they did things by natural means more impressive than anything any witch was ever accused of. However, to obtain the royal charter that perfected the merger, Governor Winthrop had to leave Connecticut to go to London. Four of the eleven executions mentioned in CT House Joint Resolution 34 occurred during his absence.

If Connecticut wants to do something, then forget apologizing for what you didn't do, and "exonerating" those whose suffering you cannot relieve. Teach the living what killed these people, a power struggle between religiously motivated politicians and ordinary rational people. "Witches" weren't persecuted at random throughout Connecticut history, and they weren't persecuted in the Salem style of panic, either. In Connecticut, "witches" were persecuted only when and where the theocrats had the upper hand, and the theocrats proceeded deliberately and (literally) judiciously.

Outstanding post, eight bits.

[Mr Guitar]

I'm a direct descendant of Susannah North Martin, one of the Salem witches. She was first tried in 1669 and the charges were dismissed, then  charged again in 1692, found guilty, and hanged July 19, 1692. I don't believe the location of her gravesite is known but was told by the family genealogy expert that there is a memorial bench with her name somewhere in the area. My cousin found the original family cemetery deep in the woods in New Hampshire with original slate markers from 1600's.  Always thought it would be cool to be related to somebody famous and I guess this is a close as I'll get  .

[spartan max2]

Sure it dosen't really change anything but it's nice to officially recognize the wrong doing. 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

10 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

which is white rabbit. isn't it? good perspective.

 

However, there is a real witch who can cast a magic.

Remebmer, Indonesia prohibited black magic

Well, there's real people out there who still engage in the rape, torture and execution of young women whom they believe to be witches.

"Retardation is still a thing"

-Gilbert Syndrome 3:16 & 1/2

[Unadan]

The witch descendants should apply for reparations.