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China plans to land astronauts on moon before 2030, another step in what looks like a new space race


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China plans to land astronauts on the moon before 2030, in what would be another advance in what's increasingly seen as a new space race pitting the Asian autocracy against the United States and its democratic allies.

The U.S. aims to put astronauts back on the lunar surface by the end of 2025.

Deputy Director of the Chinese Manned Space Agency Lin Xiqiang confirmed China's goal at a news conference Monday but gave no specific date.

China is first preparing for a "short stay on the lunar surface and human-robotic joint exploration," Lin said.

"We have a complete near-Earth human space station and human round-trip transportation system," complemented by a process for selecting, training and supporting new astronauts, he said. A schedule of two crewed missions a year is "sufficient for carrying out our objectives," Lin said.

https://phys.org/news/2023-05-china-astronauts-moon-space.html

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4 hours ago, Still Waters said:

China plans to land astronauts on the moon before 2030, in what would be another advance in what's increasingly seen as a new space race pitting the Asian autocracy against the United States and its democratic allies.

Everyone should take what China says with a Dead Sea's worth of salt.

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What I wonder about it is this: the USAns landed on the Moon many decades ago.

Why does it seem near impossible to land on the Moon again?

Did they forget how to do it, or what?

Is it money? Politics? What??

 

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3 hours ago, Abramelin said:

Why does it seem near impossible to land on the Moon again?

It doesn't.

Just because no one has chosen to do it for a while doesn't mean that it seems near impossible. No one has chosen to make a supersonic airliner since Concorde, it doesn't mean that they couldn't do it if they chose to do so.

The USA has now chosen to return. The Orion spacecraft has made two successful test flights. The Space Launch System rocket has made a successful test flight. Within 18 months a US/Canadian crew will have returned to the vicinity of the moon. Just over a year after that (if SpaceX have got Starship ready by then) a US crew will be walking on the moon one again.

Apollo was all about politics, never about the science. It had one goal, defeat the Russians in the space race. Once it had done that there was no point (from the politicians point of view) in pouring vast amounts of money in continuing. 

Things have now changed. NASA has an ultimate goal of landing a crew on Mars and intends to use the moon to gain the experience. We also now know that (if you know where to look) there is abundant water on the moon. We have the knowledge and technology to return to the moon to stay. The goal is not to stay for a day or so, like Apollo, but to build moonbases which can support crews indefinitely. The Chinese also have the knowledge and are developing the technology. They are a little way behind, especially in the area of super-heavy boosters, but they are trying to catch up.

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29 minutes ago, Jon the frog said:

Way better than weapon race...

Very true.

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On 5/30/2023 at 2:50 PM, Jon the frog said:

Way better than weapon race...

Why you think this isn't related to weapon race?

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