Moscow hit by rare drone attack

[bmk1245]

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The Russian capital and its surrounding areas were targeted by rare drone attacks on Tuesday morning, causing “minor” damage to buildings and no casualties, Moscow’s Mayor Sergei Sobyanin says.

Russian authorities say a number of drones were shot down by its air defences as they approached Moscow.

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Boomerang...

[Piney]

1 hour ago, bmk1245 said:

Boomerang...

Your right. Probably self inflicted. 

[Unusual Tournament]

The Russians are masters of dropping drones using electronic warfare. I doubt that there is much shooting involved 

[Hankenhunter]

Another false flag. Pooty's getting desperate. Ukraine is not going to waste it's valuable ordinance on civilian targets. Pretty sure that all resources will be used for the counter offensive.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Hankenhunter

[Piney]

2 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Another false flag. Pooty's getting desperate.

Pooty's gonna get flushed downed the loo.

[Hankenhunter]

1 minute ago, Piney said:

Pooty's gonna get flushed downed the loo.

I wonder if the inevitable queuing up for a new leader has started yet. Pooty has proven himself weak, and ineffectual. 

[Piney]

Just now, Hankenhunter said:

I wonder if the inevitable queuing up for a new leader has started yet. Pooty has proven himself weak, and ineffectual and ****ing nuts.

[Tatetopa]

13 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Another false flag. Pooty's getting desperate. Ukraine is not going to waste it's valuable ordinance on civilian targets. Pretty sure that all resources will be used for the counter offensive.

Kind of a strange.  JMO, these were messenger drones.  Either they came from Ukraine which implies Moscow air defense sucks, or they came from inside Russia. If they were an inside job, then either Ukraine special ops is pretty damn good or a group in Russia is trying to get rid of Putin.  They didn't kill anybody or do much damage, but they hit buildings in an exclusive neighborhood.  Sounds like more of a warning than attempted destruction.

[+and-then]

When I saw their response, saying Ukraine's actions was terrorism, I damned near choked on my coffee.  

[jmccr8]

1 hour ago, Tatetopa said:

Kind of a strange.  JMO, these were messenger drones.  Either they came from Ukraine which implies Moscow air defense sucks, or they came from inside Russia. If they were an inside job, then either Ukraine special ops is pretty damn good or a group in Russia is trying to get rid of Putin.  They didn't kill anybody or do much damage, but they hit buildings in an exclusive neighborhood.  Sounds like more of a warning than attempted destruction.

Hi Tate

Very good possibility they were laumched from nearby as it's 500k flight from the Ukraine so either launched from Russia or their air defence system is pretty lame if they got that far before being noticed.

Edited May 31, 2023 by jmccr8

[jmccr8]

 

[Occult1]

Russia is bombarding Kyiv almost on a daily basis now. They are targeting key military infrastructure and depleting Ukraine's air defenses.

The attack on Moscow is widely perceived as some sort of retaliation by a faction of the UAF. The drones were flying very low, which is why some of them made it into Russia.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Occult1

[DarkHunter]

41 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

Russia is bombarding Kyiv almost on a daily basis now. They are targeting key military infrastructure and depleting Ukraine's air defenses.

You claimed and argued for months that Russia destroyed Ukraine's air defense within the first few weeks of the invasion.

Guess all those schools, apartments, and malls that Russia generally targets are key military infrastructure to you

[Occult1]

1 hour ago, DarkHunter said:

You claimed and argued for months that Russia destroyed Ukraine's air defense within the first few weeks of the invasion.

NATO countries have been able to replenish their stocks, so far. But the leaked papers mention that Ukraine is running critically low on S-300 missiles.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/pentagon-ukraine-air-defence-likely-run

[DarkHunter]

4 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

NATO countries have been able to replenish their stocks, so far. But the leaked papers mention that Ukraine is running critically low on S-300 missiles.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/pentagon-ukraine-air-defence-likely-run

Funny how you are constantly wrong and keep flip flopping between points you argue.

Let's use your own argument for a moment, always fun to use your own logic against you.  If NATO was able to replenish Ukranian air defense stock one and are supplying them with NATO anti-air systems then why cant NATO continue to supply and replenish Ukranian stock.

If you try to use the argument that Ukraine only has anti-air defense cause of NATO then Ukraine wont run out as long as NATO is supplying them meaning Russia cant deplete Ukranian air defense.

No matter what path or method one uses your arguments are always self contradicting, but that's not surprising as you frequently have to do insane mental gymnastics to be a Russian apologist and continue pushing Russian propaganda and misinformation.

Interesting how you completely ignored how Russia almost exclusively targets civilians and civilian infrastructure instead of military infrastructure and targets.

[Unusual Tournament]

5 hours ago, Occult1 said:

NATO countries have been able to replenish their stocks, so far. But the leaked papers mention that Ukraine is running critically low on S-300 missiles.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/pentagon-ukraine-air-defence-likely-run

I read somewhere Greece has an agreement with the U.S. to swap out S-300 complexes and their extensive missile supply for patriot - NASAMS. 

[Unusual Tournament]

6 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

You claimed and argued for months that Russia destroyed Ukraine's air defense within the first few weeks of the invasion.

Guess all those schools, apartments, and malls that Russia generally targets are key military infrastructure to you

I think German IRIS-T and American NASAMS are the real stars of Ukraines defence. Patriot too, but there’s talk of Russia destroying them by exposing loopholes in the system. It’s all conjecture of course

[Piney]

2 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I think German IRIS-T and American NASAMS are the real stars of Ukraines defence. Patriot too, but there’s talk of Russia destroying them by exposing loopholes in the system. It’s all conjecture of course

I read the Patriots were doing pretty good against those "scary" hypersonic missles.

[Occult1]

4 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I read somewhere Greece has an agreement with the U.S. to swap out S-300 complexes and their extensive missile supply for patriot - NASAMS. 

Greece has so far refused to send more S-300s to Ukraine.

https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/greece-will-not-send-leopard-2a6-tanks-s-300-1671960.html

[Occult1]

5 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I think German IRIS-T and American NASAMS are the real stars of Ukraines defence. Patriot too, but there’s talk of Russia destroying them by exposing loopholes in the system. It’s all conjecture of course

Ukraine's fate against Russia's superior air force hinges on its dwindling surface-to-air missile arsenal, airpower expert warns

The document, which appears to have been published at some point in February, says SA-10s and SA-11s, the NATO names for the S-300 and Buk systems, make up 89% of Ukraine's medium and high-range air defense protection.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-surface-air-missiles-key-fight-russia-superior-air-force-2023-4

 

Ukraine's air defense still relies mostly on the older S-300 and Buk systems.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Occult1

[DarkHunter]

5 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I think German IRIS-T and American NASAMS are the real stars of Ukraines defence. Patriot too, but there’s talk of Russia destroying them by exposing loopholes in the system. It’s all conjecture of course

If Russia actually destroyed any of them then why are there no pictures of a destroyed system.  Russia has satellites capable of high resolution pictures.  

Even then Russiam has claimed to of destroyed more HIMARS and TB-2 drones then Ukraine even received by a wide margin.  Russia makes a lot of claims but provides nothing to back them up.

[Unusual Tournament]

4 hours ago, Piney said:

I read the Patriots were doing pretty good against those "scary" hypersonic missles.

I read that too. Not sure if Russian reports of destroying patriot systems are to believed, but, the missiles are very expensive to replace. 

[Unusual Tournament]

2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Greece has so far refused to send more S-300s to Ukraine.

https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/greece-will-not-send-leopard-2a6-tanks-s-300-1671960.html

They just finished with one election, and they have a deciding vote next week that should bring in an American friendly government. Since certification on these missiles is near renewal and thus politically impossible to sign, it’s almost a done deal that they will go to Ukraine within the year 

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, DarkHunter said:

If Russia actually destroyed any of them then why are there no pictures of a destroyed system.  Russia has satellites capable of high resolution pictures.  

Even then Russiam has claimed to of destroyed more HIMARS and TB-2 drones then Ukraine even received by a wide margin.  Russia makes a lot of claims but provides nothing to back them up.

The TB2’s are gone and what few Ukraine buys are used for surveillance purposes since Russian Electronic Warfare is harvesting them extremely easy. 
 

Propaganda concerning Patriot and HIMARS complexes are very quiet and questions get asked. So, jury is out on that one

[DarkHunter]

14 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

The TB2’s are gone and what few Ukraine buys are used for surveillance purposes since Russian Electronic Warfare is harvesting them extremely easy. 
 

Propaganda concerning Patriot and HIMARS complexes are very quiet and questions get asked. So, jury is out on that one

There is absolutely zero evidence of any of that, and yet again no sources provided for your claims.

A few TB-2 drones have been downed but Ukraine has not lossed all of them.  If Russian electronic warfare is so effective why are there multiple videos coming out every day of Ukranian civilian model drones dropping grenades/explosives onto Russian infantry and vehicles.  Not too long ago a Ukranian drone destroyed a T-90 tank by dropping a grenade down the hatch.

The patriot system has shot down like 7 Kinzhal missiles so far and there has been near nightly attacks on Russian rear areas with HIMARS so no idea where you get this idea they have gone quiet.

Since you have traditionally used o lyrics Russian propaganda I suppose you would know what the Russian propaganda is saying.