UM-Bot Posted May 31, 2023 #1 Share Posted May 31, 2023 The event will offer 'definitive evidence of illegal unacknowledged black budget projects related to UFOs'. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/367335/ufo-press-event-to-present-definitive-evidence-of-black-projects 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted May 31, 2023 #2 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Oh rubbish. If they were “black projects” then Congress and the military would have been told not to make a fuss over it because they’re “black projects”. Not after hearings and public releases. I call this story bullchit! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted May 31, 2023 #3 Share Posted May 31, 2023 20 years later, Greer is at it again. Oh joy, lol 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esoteric_toad Posted May 31, 2023 #4 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Definitive Evidence: Likely more stories and claims. I'll venture it will be far from definitive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted May 31, 2023 #5 Share Posted May 31, 2023 NASA to Address UFO Findings at First Public Question and Answer Meeting https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/05/31/nasa-to-address-ufo-findings-at-first-public-question-and-answer-meeting/ NOW we'll have answers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAlrakis Posted May 31, 2023 #6 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Well, I hope they keep their promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted May 31, 2023 #7 Share Posted May 31, 2023 10 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Oh rubbish. If they were “black projects” then Congress and the military would have been told not to make a fuss over it because they’re “black projects”. Not after hearings and public releases. I call this story bullchit! I often wonder where we would be today if Major Donald Keyhoe was not cut off in 1958 on the CBS Armstrong Circle Star Theater when he was about to disclose sensitive information on what the government really knew about UFOs. He was also the person who was aware the government knew the objects were extraterrestrial flying machines. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted June 1, 2023 #8 Share Posted June 1, 2023 2 hours ago, skyeagle409 said: I often wonder where we would be today if Major Donald Keyhoe was not cut off in 1958 on the CBS Armstrong Circle Star Theater when he was about to disclose sensitive information on what the government really knew about UFOs. He was also the person who was aware the government knew the objects were extraterrestrial flying machines. Interesting. I’ll have to look into that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted June 1, 2023 #9 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Intriguing read: https://www.newindianexpress.com/opinions/2016/oct/19/how-the-cia-dismissed-major-donald-keyholes-ufo-claims-1529350.amp 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolette Posted June 1, 2023 #10 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Good somebody needs to bring it to light. i have seen two saucers up close and one was fascinatingly technologically complex and one was very clearly man made and didn't even look space-worthy but was hovering nonetheless. The occupants may be getting away with awful experiments on people and need to be met with some accountability. Identifying the culprit would be a monumental start. They are definitely taking advantage of the stigma creating reluctance to report them and likely the disbelief when people do. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted June 1, 2023 #11 Share Posted June 1, 2023 How is this new or news? Area 51 vets break silence: Sorry, but no space aliens or UFOs Area 51 Acknowledged By Feds: Early Spy Planes Mistaken For UFOs With Greer involved we know already it's some scam. But what is his agenda this time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted June 1, 2023 #12 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Interesting. I’ll have to look into that 4 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Intriguing read: https://www.newindianexpress.com/opinions/2016/oct/19/how-the-cia-dismissed-major-donald-keyholes-ufo-claims-1529350.amp It goes to show you just how far the Air Force and the CIA were willing to go in order to hide they fact they knew those intelligently controlled objects were extraterrestrial. In regard to the 1952 UFO incidents over Washington D. C., the Air Force's explanation for those UFOs was that the objects were the result of temperature inversion. However, pilots, air traffic controllers, and others, felt the Air Force insulted their intelligence because they knew the Air Force's temperature inversion explanation was false and in no way explained the objects they witnessed. In 1969, the Air Force debunked its own 1952 temperature inversion explanation with this study. Quantitative Aspects of Mirages According to a 1969 study by the Air Force Environmental Technical Applications Center, the conditions needed to produce the UFO-like effects attributed to inversions cannot exist in the Earth's atmosphere. Menkello, F.V., "Quantitative Aspects of Mirages," USAF Environmental Technical Applications Center, 1969 Edited June 1, 2023 by skyeagle409 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted June 1, 2023 #13 Share Posted June 1, 2023 If there's nothing to this phenomenon. Then why all the ridicule & retribution on witnesses? Seems to be a tactic to silence term. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted June 1, 2023 #14 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawken said: If there's nothing to this phenomenon. Then why all the ridicule & retribution on witnesses? Seems to be a tactic to silence term. That's typically disingenuous of you. The phenomena isn't in question. The alien conclusion is. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted June 1, 2023 #15 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Just now, psyche101 said: That's typically disingenuous of you. The phenomena isn't in question. The alien conclusion is. Thanks for all the reactions. I'll add them to my collection. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted June 1, 2023 #16 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Just now, Hawken said: Thanks for all the reactions. I'll add them to my collection. WTH is wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted June 1, 2023 #17 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Interesting. I’ll have to look into that Major Donald Keyhoe Silenced by CBS on Live TV On January 22, 1958, Keyhoe appeared on a CBS live television show the Armstrong Circle Theatre to speak on the topic of UFOs. Keyhoe charged that a U.S. Congressional committee was evaluating evidence that "will absolutely prove that the UFOs are machines under intelligent control". However CBS stopped the audio portion of the live broadcast. Herbert A. Carlborg, CBS director of editing stated "this program had been carefully cleared for security reasons" Here is the response from CBS. Edited June 1, 2023 by skyeagle409 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted June 1, 2023 #18 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hawken said: If there's nothing to this phenomenon. Then why all the ridicule & retribution on witnesses? Seems to be a tactic to silence term. NASA needs to come clean. NASA's public Q & A meeting reminded me when the CIA lost a lawsuit to Ground Saucer Watch (GSW) which revealed the CIA was lying to the public about UFOS. Among the documents released revealed the 1976 Iranian UFO encounter. C.I.A. PAPERS DETAIL U.F.O. SURVEILLANCE “After reviewing the documents, Ground Saucer Watch believes that U.F.O.'s do exist, they are real, the U.S. Government has been totally untruthful and the cover‐up is massive,” William Spaulding, head of the group, said a C.I.A. memo of Aug. 1, 1952, recommends continued agency surveillance of “flying saucers,” saying, “It is strongly urged, however, that no indication of C.I.A. interest or concern reach the press or public, in view of their probably alarmist tendencies to accept such interest as ‘confirmatory’ of the soundness of ‘unpublished facts’ in the hands of the U.S. Government,” the document said. Among the documents are several detailed reports of Air Force attempts to either intercept or destroy U.F.O.'s. In a 1976 incident in Iran, one report says, two F‐4 Phantom jet fighter-bombers pursued a large U.F.O. that,seemed to send out smaller craft. One of the smaller craft “headed straight toward the F‐4 at a very fast rate of speed,”the report said. “The pilot attempted to fire an AIM‐9 missile at the object but at that instant his weapons control panel went off and he lost all communications.” The pilot eluded the craft, then watched as “returned to the primary object for a perfect rejoin,” the report continued. https://www.nytimes.com/1979/01/14/archives/cia-papers-detail-ufo-surveillance-agencys-secret-studies-convince.html https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP88-01315R000300070007-8.pdf Edited June 1, 2023 by skyeagle409 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted June 1, 2023 #19 Share Posted June 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Hawken said: If there's nothing to this phenomenon. Then why all the ridicule & retribution on witnesses? Seems to be a tactic to silence term. Who is ridiculing witnesses? What retribution is there? Those are excuse related items from the 1950' and 60's. I can't think of one instance in the last 30 years where someone has come forward about a story of aliens or UFOs and they were ridiculed or lost their job (for example). If the intent is to silence people that tactic has clearly been failing hard since the 70's. Do you have an example you might be referring to? Thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted June 1, 2023 #20 Share Posted June 1, 2023 3 hours ago, skyeagle409 said: Major Donald Keyhoe Silenced by CBS on Live TV On January 22, 1958, Keyhoe appeared on a CBS live television show the Armstrong Circle Theatre to speak on the topic of UFOs. Keyhoe charged that a U.S. Congressional committee was evaluating evidence that "will absolutely prove that the UFOs are machines under intelligent control". However CBS stopped the audio portion of the live broadcast. Herbert A. Carlborg, CBS director of editing stated "this program had been carefully cleared for security reasons" Here is the response from CBS. If i may ask, where's the attached copy of Keyhoe's signed statement? Have you seen it or read it? Edited for "security reasons" , sounds a lot like the gentlemen was about to divulge details of secret US programs and was edited to prevent it from being broadcast. You know, proper and responsible handling of sensitive information. It was the height of the Cold War and the U2 had only been in service for a few years. That along with other craft under development and testing of course needed to be kept a secret from prying Russian eyes. It's not really that difficult to understand. More speculation based off of one man's assumptions and stories form over 60 years ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted June 1, 2023 #21 Share Posted June 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Hawken said: If there's nothing to this phenomenon. Then why all the ridicule & retribution on witnesses? Because it's easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted June 1, 2023 #22 Share Posted June 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Zebra3 said: Because it's easy. I'll ask you then, who has ridiculed anyone in these forums? I haven't seen anyone personally ridiculed no matter how outlandish or fantastical the claims. Content has been challenged sure, but nothing that would be considered ridicule. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted June 1, 2023 #23 Share Posted June 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Trelane said: I'll ask you then, who has ridiculed anyone in these forums? LMAO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted June 1, 2023 #24 Share Posted June 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Zebra3 said: LMAO! As I suspected. Thank you for your cooperation. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted June 1, 2023 #25 Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 5/31/2023 at 3:58 AM, UM-Bot said: The event will offer 'definitive evidence of illegal unacknowledged black budget projects related to UFOs'. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/367335/ufo-press-event-to-present-definitive-evidence-of-black-projects Steven Greer! He doesn't have any access to black budget projects. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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