Unusual Tournament Posted June 3 #1 Share Posted June 3 If the Government Has UFO Crash Materials, It’s Time to Reveal Them Christopher Mellon is a private equity investor, a research affiliate with Harvard University’s Galileo Project, and a senior advisor to Americans for Safe Aerospace. He is a former minority staff director of the Senate Intelligence Committee and former deputy assistant secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Speaks up about disclosure of crash UFO/UAP wreckage https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/06/03/ufo-crash-materials-intelligence-00100077 2 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted June 3 #2 Share Posted June 3 Better not just yet. We don't want another toilet paper shortage. 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 4 #3 Share Posted June 4 2 hours ago, Hawken said: Better not just yet. We don't want another toilet paper shortage. I'd wonder just how many Americans would even believe the government if they said the sun would rise tomorrow. I've lost ALL FAITH in anything they say or do. 3 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted June 4 #4 Share Posted June 4 2 hours ago, and-then said: I'd wonder just how many Americans would even believe the government if they said the sun would rise tomorrow. I've lost ALL FAITH in anything they say or do. Same in the UK. Level of distrust in our elected officials has never been higher. I think it is in a big part due to all the information available to us (good and bad). Twenty years ago we would buy a newspaper and watch TV for news - now we can access hundreds of news outlets instantly, often giving very different views on events. 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted June 4 #5 Share Posted June 4 6 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: If the Government Has UFO Crash Materials, It’s Time to Reveal Them Christopher Mellon is a private equity investor, a research affiliate with Harvard University’s Galileo Project, and a senior advisor to Americans for Safe Aerospace. He is a former minority staff director of the Senate Intelligence Committee and former deputy assistant secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Speaks up about disclosure of crash UFO/UAP wreckage https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/06/03/ufo-crash-materials-intelligence-00100077 US Military are using smart metals similar to those found at the Roswell Crash In 1947 http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/morphingmetals.html Brig. Gen. Arthur E. Exon Former Commanding Officer, Wright-Patterson AFB Gen. Exon has been the highest ranking military officer to come out and say directly that Roswell was the crash of a spacecraft and that alien bodies were recovered. Whitley Strieber commentary on ABC UFO special, Feb. 25, 2005, quoting Exon “Everyone from the White House on down knew that what we had found was not of this world within 24 hours of our finding it.” Nanotechnology and Aerospace Supermaterials These are stronger than steel or standard titanium metal, uncuttable, untearable, undentable, and highly flexible with memory properties, exactly the physical characteristics described by Roswell eyewitnesses to crash debris from 1947. http://roswellproof.homestead.com/debris9_nanotech.html 1 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted June 4 #6 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 5 hours ago, and-then said: I'd wonder just how many Americans would even believe the government if they said the sun would rise tomorrow. I've lost ALL FAITH in anything they say or do. There are many people that will believe anything the government says and Roswell Incident is the perfect example where the government misled the public with false cover stories. Here are well-known examples. and note where the Air Force claims that 6-foot test dummies and accident victims of the 1950s were the 3-foot alien bodies people saw in 1947. It is truly amazing that there were people who actually believed the Air Force, but Mr. Reality revealed a different story. 1997 Roswell Report The conclusions are Air Force activities which occurred over a period of many years have been consolidated and are now represented to have occurred in two or three days in July 1947. "Aliens" observed in the New Mexico desert were actually anthropomorphic test dummies that were carried aloft by U.S. Air Force high altitude balloons for scientific research. The "unusual" military activities in the New Mexico desert were high altitude research balloon launch and recovery operations. Reports of military units that always seemed to arrive shortly after the crash of a flying saucer to retrieve the saucer and "crew," were actually accurate descriptions of Air Force personnel engaged in anthropomorphic dummy recovery operations. Claims of "alien bodies" at the Roswell Army Air Field hospital were most likely a combination of two separate incidents: ) a 1956 KC-97 aircraft accident in which 11 Air Force members lost their lives; and, ) a 1959 manned balloon mishap in which two Air Force pilots were injured. http://www.af.mil/in...swell/index.asp Now, for the rest of the story Lt. Col. Raymond Madson: AF Roswell Study Contributor Admits- "It Was ET!" The Lt. Colonel who was a major contributor to the Air Force's official 1997 study that concluded that the Roswell ET crash of 1947 is a "myth"- now states that the Air Force's Roswell report is itself a lie. The Colonel goes further to state that what he really believes to be true is that aliens actually did crash to Earth decades ago! He adds that he was "used" and that the the author of the Air Force report "was on a mission" with no interest in discovering what really happened at Roswell. Dummies weren't classified, says retired colonel [The Associated Press] GRANTS — A retired Air Force officer says he worked with high tech crash test dummies in the 1950s, and that there's no way they'd be confused with aliens described in rumors arising from the Roswell Incident. Lt. Col. (Ret.) Raymond A. Madson said he isn't buying the latest Air Force explanation of what occurred in Roswell in July 1947. The Pentagon issued a report this week saying the Air Force believes crash test dummies used in the 1950s were mistaken for the rumored 1947 aliens and suggesting that UFO buffs just got their dates mixed up. http://www.ufomind.com/area51/list/1997/jul/a06-004.shtml Edited June 4 by skyeagle409 2 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted June 4 #7 Share Posted June 4 6 hours ago, skyeagle409 said: Nanotechnology and Aerospace Supermaterials These are stronger than steel or standard titanium metal, uncuttable, untearable, undentable, and highly flexible with memory properties, exactly the physical characteristics described by Roswell eyewitnesses to crash debris from 1947. http://roswellproof.homestead.com/debris9_nanotech.html The entire article is about nanotechnology not about any materials found at Roswell. You just flash up things taken out of context in an effort to support your flawed conclusion. In my book we call that...dishonesty. 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted June 5 #8 Share Posted June 5 18 hours ago, joc said: The entire article is about nanotechnology not about any materials found at Roswell. You just flash up things taken out of context in an effort to support your flawed conclusion. In my book we call that...dishonesty. Remember, the materials exhibit properties as mentioned by the Roswell witnesses. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted June 5 #9 Share Posted June 5 4 hours ago, skyeagle409 said: Remember, the materials exhibit properties as mentioned by the Roswell witnesses. Anecdotal evidence about something we don't really know anything about...because it remains secret by the government...is a pointless exercise. 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted June 5 #10 Share Posted June 5 (edited) Let's go back to the first page shall we? Following is a link from the OP first page. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/19/pentagon-ufos-extraterrestrials-00092870 Did anyone watch the video? You should if you haven't. What they are saying is that of two videos, one they just don't know what it is...the second, which appears to be one of the 'blip' videos on radar where 'spaceships' are flying very fast in close proximity to a plane...they have resolved. It's a shadow image created by the infra-red heat from the plane. @skyeagle409 Watch that video please “I should also state clearly for the record that in our research, AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology or objects that defy the known laws of physics,” Kirkpatrick said. Edited June 5 by joc 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom309 Posted June 5 #11 Share Posted June 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, joc said: @skyeagle409 Watch that video please “I should also state clearly for the record that in our research, AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology or objects that defy the known laws of physics,” Kirkpatrick said. I'm afraid Kirkpatrick has been kept in the dark, the deep dark, on purpose. Here's the reality, and amazingly, approved by the DOD. I think that big "disclosure clock" may have actually taken a couple ticks forward with this news. https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/ Edited June 5 by Phantom309 additional info 1 1 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted June 5 #12 Share Posted June 5 On 6/3/2023 at 5:23 PM, Hawken said: Better not just yet. We don't want another toilet paper shortage. What? You aren't stocked up? You can't live your live one roll at a time. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted June 5 #13 Share Posted June 5 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: What? You aren't stocked up? You can't live your live one roll at a time. Just do it like our grandparents and use a Sears catalog. Plenty of junk mail also. Edited June 5 by Hawken 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted June 5 #14 Share Posted June 5 2 minutes ago, Hawken said: Just do it like our grandparents and use a Sears catalog. Plenty of junk mail also. Yep, I remember that. I think my dad would buy toilet paper for my grandma's outhouse when ever we went to visit her. She finally got a working bathroom with running water in 1974. You can't put sears catalog pages down a toilet more than once. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom309 Posted June 5 #15 Share Posted June 5 Tonight, on ABC news, an interview with the whistle blower: 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted June 5 #16 Share Posted June 5 3 hours ago, Phantom309 said: I'm afraid Kirkpatrick has been kept in the dark, the deep dark, on purpose. Here's the reality, and amazingly, approved by the DOD. I think that big "disclosure clock" may have actually taken a couple ticks forward with this news. https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/ An anecdote is an anecdote. Who said it and how trust worthy they are only matter up to the precipice of evidence. If no one opens that door then there is no evidence. If they want to open that door... 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom309 Posted June 5 #17 Share Posted June 5 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom309 Posted June 5 #18 Share Posted June 5 Very good interview: 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted June 6 Author #19 Share Posted June 6 5 hours ago, joc said: An anecdote is an anecdote. Who said it and how trust worthy they are only matter up to the precipice of evidence. If no one opens that door then there is no evidence. If they want to open that door... …don’t think it’s necessary to touch and feel ufo’s to know they’re advanced technology beyond our knowledge base. Have you touched the sun and moon to know they’re real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted June 6 #20 Share Posted June 6 In possession of UFOs and aliens. If they can present the stone cold facts and prove it, I'll listen. Until then it's just someone making a statement. It's all rather funny though. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted June 6 #21 Share Posted June 6 38 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: …don’t think it’s necessary to touch and feel ufo’s to know they’re advanced technology beyond our knowledge base. Yes you do. Otherwise it's just called making crap up. 38 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Have you touched the sun and moon to know they’re real? You have felt the heat from the sun and we can visually observe it in detail even measure it. When that's happened with an alien spaceship you will have a comparison. Right now you do not. You have a zealous idea. 3 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted June 6 Author #22 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: Yes you do. Otherwise it's just called making crap up. You have felt the heat from the sun and we can visually observe it in detail even measure it. When that's happened with an alien spaceship you will have a comparison. Right now you do not. You have a zealous idea. Witnesses have seen and recorded the metallic UFO’s performing aerodynamic movements our aircraft and technology cannot possibly do without touching them. Same same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted June 6 #23 Share Posted June 6 9 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Witnesses have seen and recorded the metallic UFO’s performing aerodynamic movements our aircraft and technology cannot possibly do without touching them. Same same The appearance of metal doesn't equate to metal. And there's no good reason to consider UFOs technology. @joc has been pointing out for some time now why they aren't solid objects. Did you pick up on it? 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted June 6 Author #24 Share Posted June 6 42 minutes ago, psyche101 said: The appearance of metal doesn't equate to metal. And there's no good reason to consider UFOs technology. @joc has been pointing out for some time now why they aren't solid objects. Did you pick up on it? Well the appearance of the sun doesn’t equate to heat. But we all know that to be otherwise. Naval fighter pilots have said otherwise. They have stated they’re metallic. Was @joc a naval pilot and did he first hand encounter one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted June 6 #25 Share Posted June 6 2 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Well the appearance of the sun doesn’t equate to heat. But we all know that to be otherwise. It does actually. You can't view the sun without experiencing a rise in temperature as you are bathed in it. 2 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Naval fighter pilots have said otherwise. They have stated they’re metallic. Appear metallic. Doesn't mean metallic. The navy has patterned plasma drone targets even. Could likely explain the USS Nimitz and USS Theodore Roosevelt sightings. Pilots make terrible witnesses. I've left a link before on that. Did you miss it? 2 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Was @joc a naval pilot and did he first hand encounter one? Why would he have to be to understand basic physics? Did you pick up what he has been putting down? 2 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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