[Merged] Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin

[Golden Duck]

14 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

We can take a look here where an F-89 Scorpion was scrambled to intercept a UFO. As radar operators watched, the F-89 merged with the UFO and disappeared. Afterward, the UFO simply flew on, but no trace of the F-89 was ever found.

 

The Kinross UFO Case

On the evening of November 23, 1953, Air Defense Command Ground Intercept radar operators at Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan, identified an unusual target over Lake Superior, near the Soo Locks. An F-89C Scorpion jet from Kinross Air Force Base was scrambled to investigate the radar return; the Scorpion was piloted by First Lieutenant Moncla, with Second Lieutenant Robert L. Wilson acting as the Scorpion's radar operator.

Wilson had a difficult time tracking the object on the Scorpion's radar, so ground radar operators gave Moncla directions towards the object as he flew. Moncla eventually closed in on the object at about 8,000 feet in altitude. Ground Control tracked the Scorpion and the unidentified object as two "blips" on the radar screen. The two blips on the radar screen grew closer and closer until they seemed to merge. Assuming that Moncla had flown either under or over the target, Ground Control anticipated that moments later, the Scorpion and the object would again appear as two separate blips. Donald Keyhoe reported that there was a fear that the two objects had struck one another, but the single blip continued on its previous course.

Attempts were made to contact Moncla via radio, but without success. A search and rescue operation by both the USAF and the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) was quickly mounted, but failed to find any trace of the plane or its pilots. 

In 1958 Keyhoe got hold of a leaked Air Force document that made it clear that officialdom considered the Kinross incident a UFO encounter of the strangest kind. The document quoted these words from a radar observer who had been there: "It seems incredible, but the blip apparently just swallowed our F-89." The following year, in conversations with civilian ufologists Tom Comella and Edgar Smith, M. Sgt. O. D. Hill of Project Blue Book confided that such incidents -- he claimed Kinross had not been the only one -- had officials worried. Many, he said, believed UFOs to be of extraterrestrial origin and wanted to prevent an interplanetary Pearl Harbor. Cornelia subsequently confronted Hill's superior, Capt. George T. Gregory, at Blue Book headquarters. Gregory looked shocked, left the room for a short period, and returned to state, "Well, we just cannot talk about those cases."

DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCEHEADQUARTERS AIR FORCE SAFETY AGENCY (cufon.org)

 

Your link mentions Felix Moncla as a footnote.  Is that how vets speak of fallen vets?

This case has been done to death in this forum.  I remember a former Navy RIO essentiall confirming the F-89C was a pre-prod model.

Now, I expect a competent Air Force historian would be aware of the F-89C crash a little of 12 months earlier.

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This was not the first wing failure in an F-89C, nor the last. The Air Force grounded the Scorpions and ordered Northrop to return the airplanes to the factory or to modification centers using the company’s pilots. Northrop engineers began an intensive investigation to discover the cause of these catastrophic failures.

https://supersabresociety.com/this_time_in_history/today-in-history-august-30-1950-the-mason-dixon-line-f-84c-crash/

Its possible there could be be a cover-up; but, for corruption, bribery and project delivery over quality.

A conclusion ET interference would be reason enough to avoid contract penalties, wouldn't it?

Edited August 8 by Golden Duck

[skyeagle409]

1 hour ago, Golden Duck said:

Your link mentions Felix Moncla as a footnote.  Is that how vets speak of fallen vets?

This case has been done to death in this forum.  I remember a former Navy RIO essentiall confirming the F-89C was a pre-prod model.

Now, I expect a competent Air Force historian would be aware of the F-89C crash a little of 12 months earlier.

https://supersabresociety.com/this_time_in_history/today-in-history-august-30-1950-the-mason-dixon-line-f-84c-crash/

Its possible there could be be a cover-up; but, for corruption, bribery and project delivery over quality.

A conclusion ET interference would be reason enough to avoid contract penalties, wouldn't it?

You should know very well that is not in the same league. First of all, radar operators watched as the two objects merged whereas only the UFO remained in the sky. Given the fact no wreckage of any kind was ever found, should have been a clue to you that this encountered had nothing to do with the F-89 crashing in flames and not leaving a single trace of wreckage or fluid slicks anywhere and remember, they had said that encountering flying saucers have resulted in multiple losses of lives and aircraft. 

To give you an example that UFOs have been responsible for the loss of aircraft, we can take a look here at a similar incident where Cuban MiG-21s attempted to intercept a UFO.

The 1967 Cuban Jet Incident 

One day in March, 1967, the Spanish-speaking intercept operators of Detachment "A" heard Cuban air defense radar controllers report an unidentified "bogey" approaching Cuba from the northeast. The UFO entered Cuban air space at a height of about 10,000 meters (about 33,000 feet) and sped off at nearly Mach 1 (nearly 660 mph). Two MIG-21 jet fighters were scrambled to meet it. 

The jets were guided to within five kilometers (three miles) of the UFO by Cuban ground control intercept radar personnel. The flight leader radioed that the object was a bright metallic sphere with no visible markings or appendages. When a try at radio contact failed, Cuban air defense headquarters ordered the flight leader to arm his weapons and destroy the object. The leader reported his radar was locked onto the bogey and his missiles were armed. Seconds later, the wingman screamed to the ground controller that his leader's jet had exploded. When he gained his composure, the wing man radioed there was no smoke or flame, that his leader's MIG-21 had disintegrated. Cuban radar then reported the UFO quickly accelerated and climbed above 30,000 meters (98,000 feet). At last report, it was heading south-southeast towards South America. 

An Intelligence Spot Report was sent to NSA headquarters, since AFSS and its units are under NSA operational control. Such reports are standard practice in cases of aircraft losses by hostile nations. NSA is required to acknowledge receipt of such reports. But the 6947th's Detachment "A" did not get one; so it sent a follow-up report. 

Edited August 8 by skyeagle409