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[Merged] Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin


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@skyeagle409  You can call and make an appointment for a tour of the area where the alleged crash happened.  You can spend a day in Roswell going to the UFO museum and some other places.   If you go in July there is a big party (I think it is 4th of July weekend) with parades and other stuff.

https://www.seeroswell.com

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6 hours ago, Gilbert Syndrome said:

Because "people would go mad, they couldn't handle the knowledge, they'd be dribbling into their cereal bowls and punching their children in the teeth... Yada yada yada, etc." 

Maybe don't project your reactions on to others.

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He seems incredibly nonchalant about all of this. The way he speaks feels very contrived. Watching him in the video when he talks makes me feel like I'm watching a character speak, rather than an actual person. An actor, you might say.

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4 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

He has identified over 700 high-level government and corporate whistleblowers willing to testify regarding the UFO/ET issue.

the disclosure project, remember that?

Dr. Steven Greer? :sleepy:

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9 hours ago, Dejarma said:

there's many pilots witnessing these objects, so we are told, so why is there just a small handful 'whistle blowing' ?

If that was the case, you wouldn't confidently claim that many pilots witness them.

As a non-pilot witness, it is not an easy thing to digest. When you see technology that you cant easily explain there is self doubt, peer doubt, and also sensory overload which can make it very tough to recall unbelievable events clearly. I wouldn't have even believed my own discussion with them if it wasn't for the key detail that when allowed to ask questions i had the foresight to ask something i had no clue about just so i could research the answer i got later and prove to myself it was happening.

Also i refused the interview with theo investigating agency for the simple fact that they have not shared thier info with me and there was no reason to share mine not knowing what it is used for. I am sure these are common themes for other people as well, especially those who's careers and families are on the line.

Pilots in particular can lose thier jobs for this. Which should be a huge red flag to start with. It is not hard to see why people do not want thier credibility and life destroyed. This is like police misconduct. Everyone has talked about it... The whole country protested but with no results. People are discredited, labelled and only hurt themselves asking for the secrecy to stop. But they are still getting away with murder and the victims are labelled criminals for wanting the corruption fixed. Oh people talk... But are thier reports being taken seriously?

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4 minutes ago, Nicolette said:

If that was the case, you wouldn't confidently claim that many pilots witness them.

i'm not claiming this, Grusch is

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2 hours ago, Dejarma said:

the disclosure project, remember that?

Dr. Steven Greer? :sleepy:

 

Yes, I do remember. In May 2001, Greer held a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. that featured 20 retired Air Force, Federal Aviation Administration and intelligence officers and I especially remembered one of the pilots who had participated and testified at the National Press Club about his UFO encounter over Iran in 1976. His UFO encounter was written up by the DoD, CIA, NSA, DIA, and a report was sent to the White House.  The 1976 Iranian encounter was revealed after the CIA lost a lawsuit to Ground Saucer Watch (GSW) and I should also mentioned that he was the pilot of the second F-4 Phantom.The Iranian pilot is Parviz Jafari.

 

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https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/ufo/us_gov_iran_case.pdf

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5 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

@skyeagle409  You can call and make an appointment for a tour of the area where the alleged crash happened.  You can spend a day in Roswell going to the UFO museum and some other places.   If you go in July there is a big party (I think it is 4th of July weekend) with parades and other stuff.

https://www.seeroswell.com

Unfortunately, I will be missing the party next month.

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dejarma said:

i'm not claiming this, Grusch is

 

INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN

Jonathan Grey

Jonathan Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC), where the analysis of UAP has been his focus. Previously he had experience serving Private Aerospace and Department of Defense Special Directive Task Forces.

“The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone,” Grey said. “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.” “It is no longer necessary to continue to deny that these advanced technologies derived from non-human intelligence exist at all or to deny that these technologies have landed, crashed, or fallen into the hands of human beings.”

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

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7 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

Maybe don't project your reactions on to others.

I was quite clearly being sarcastic, hence the quotation marks... And the "yada yada yada"?

The common nonsense being peddled by believers is that people couldn't handle the knowledge. 

Maybe don't be so quick to assume? You know what they say about assumptions. 

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10 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

There are many willing to testify before Congress. Here are just a few.

 

UFO/UAP Disclosure Press Conference

Dr. Steven Greer is the world’s leading authority on the subject of UFO’s/UAPs, advanced energy and propulsion systems and has gathered an extensive intelligence archive of compelling evidence on the subject of extraterrestrial intelligence and covert government projects that are being run illegally....He has identified over 700 high-level government and corporate whistleblowers willing to testify regarding the UFO/ET issue.  

https://www.press.org/events/ufouap-disclosure-press-conference

 

Group Calls for Disclosure of UFO Info
They're out there — and the government knows.

That's according to a group of about 20 former government workers, many of them military and security officials, who stepped forward on Wednesday to say they had witnessed evidence of aliens and unidentified flying objects and called for congressional hearings about such sightings.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=98572


Aliens have deactivated British and US nuclear missiles, say US military pilots

September 27, 2010, Telegraph (One of the UK's leading newspapers)


Congress Admits UFOs Not ‘Man-Made,’ Says ‘Threats’ Increasing ‘Exponentially’

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3adadb/congress-admits-ufos-not-man-made-says-threats-increasing-exponentially

 

CHILEAN AIR FORCE RECOGNIZES UFOS AS FLYING MACHINES PILOTED BY ET INTELLIGENCE

On 2nd April 1997, Chilean newspaper "La Cuarta" has the following headline: "UFO Sighting of Arica is Confirmed by La Direccion General de Aeronautic Civil." Chile did start to join the small number of countries who officially stated that the nature of UFOs is of intelligent driven flying machines

 

Your links and sources leave a lot to be desired... But my favourite part was "the Telegraph, one of the UK's leading newspapers..." 

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12 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

I doubt that is the reason.  JMO.  It is for advantage.  What pieces of technology can we reverse engineer in secret and apply to our own military?  How much advantage would that be if conflict ever came and we could bring out advanced weaponry? 

On the other hand, are these bumbling pilots and their faulty craft not crashing all over the world?   Eventually, odds would be for one to crash in plain sight near a population area.  Wouldn't other nations get a chance to get some of that technology too?  

Here is another thing to consider.  If these alien folk have so little regard for their own pilots and craft, how little would they care if they had to defeat a primitive species?

I was taking the p***, mate, and I generally agree. 

If we're to believe the many many stories being churned out daily, then these things certainly are crashing all over the place, but the dastardly government keeps getting there first. 

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22 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

As I referenced above, we have been given a proverbial precedent. 

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Total BS to me.

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17 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

@skyeagle409  You can call and make an appointment for a tour of the area where the alleged crash happened.  You can spend a day in Roswell going to the UFO museum and some other places.   If you go in July there is a big party (I think it is 4th of July weekend) with parades and other stuff.

https://www.seeroswell.com

We were on an extended RV tour of the west in 1997 with the family. Pulled into Roswell in what turned out to the opening day of the 50th anniversary of the “UFO Crash”.  this was not planned. Visited the museum, had alien figures painted on the kids faces etc.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/projects/itstrue/itstrue0705.htm

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17 hours ago, Gilbert Syndrome said:

Your links and sources leave a lot to be desired... But my favourite part was "the Telegraph, one of the UK's leading newspapers..." 

 

That is why it is very important to know the rest of the story when posting links and sources.

In reference where the Telegraph said: "Aliens have deactivated British and US nuclear missiles, say US military pilots," we can take a look where on  24 Oct. 1968, United States Air Force (USAF) maintenance and security personnel stationed within the Minuteman, Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) complex surrounding Minot AFB, North Dakota, observed one—and at times—two UFOs. The Minot Base Operations dispatcher initiated radio communications with personnel reporting in the field, Minot, Radar Approach Control (RAPCON), and the crew of a returning B-52H aircraft.

Shortly afterwards, RAPCON provided vectors for the B-52 to overfly a stationary UFO on or near the ground. After turning onto the downwind leg of the traffic pattern, the pilots observed a large, illuminated UFO ahead of the aircraft for several minutes, before turning onto the base leg over the UFO while observing it at close range. After the B-52 landed, both outer and inner-zone intrusions alarms were activated at the remote missile Launch Facility Oscar-7. The duration of reported observations was over three hours. 

You can review their story here and hear what the co-pilot described and thought the object was.

 

 

 

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On 6/6/2023 at 1:45 PM, skyeagle409 said:

.... we now find ourselves in a brand new world of reality.

I'm not that optimistic. If we had achieved large scale fusion reactors by now, I might be.

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On 6/7/2023 at 5:46 AM, Davros of Skaro said:

Total BS to me.

The real "BS" is witholding the data from The People, which violates the Constitution.

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On 6/7/2023 at 12:15 PM, WVK said:

We were on an extended RV tour of the west in 1997 with the family. Pulled into Roswell in what turned out to the opening day of the 50th anniversary of the “UFO Crash”.  this was not planned. Visited the museum, had alien figures painted on the kids faces etc.

I used to live in Roswell, NM. Back then, there wasn't so much as a road sign, about "alien" anything. The only thing I liked about the place, was the steaks were the best I ever had; and on the weekends, the low riders would come into town. That was all there was to do in that place. The town was a single man's, worst nightmare. I got transferred out, as fast as I was able to.

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On 6/6/2023 at 9:16 PM, Phantom309 said:

Bottom line - this is great news, it totally supports our view we are not alone and never have been.

Roswell- and apparantly many others - happened. Retreivals have been going on for years. 

The idiot naysakers, debunkers, and clowns have been completley blown out of the water...! We have been right all along.............all along. 

Sweet music to the ears. Love it...!

 

I do believe that we are not alone (and I have my reasons), but what if this is just another distraction.

I have many questions!

What if he is following some script?

I truly hope he is an honest person who thinks humanity has the right to know this.

 

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1 hour ago, LightAngel said:

What if he is following some script?

I truly hope he is an honest person who thinks humanity has the right to know this.

I agree, and I have to ask the same question.

Could this just be another lie?

The problem with that reasoning is, I think it’s a felony to lie to any federal investigator, not just the FBI. It wouldn’t make sense that you would only get in trouble for lying to the FBI, in their investigations. I can’t imagine any law written like that.

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5 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

Could this just be another lie?

more than likely..

fortunately there are not many unscrupulous bars**ds in the world that will do anything for a fast buck because generally humans are brilliant IMO, but there are some & people like this & the likes of Fravor etc see the opportunity to earn money- & money they WILL earn via this BS..

How many TV interviews has Grusch participated in so far= many!

One gets paid tons of cash for this-- this is only the start & he knows it! But hey, what do I know. Just my opinion ;)

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Why are Astronauts such as Story Musgraves,Gordon Cooper,and other high ranking officials not taken seriously when they come out and expose Extraterrestrial phenomenon? Even the Former Canadian Minister of Defense has made this information known! 

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7 minutes ago, superman73 said:

Why are Astronauts such as Story Musgraves,Gordon Cooper,and other high ranking officials not taken seriously when they come out and expose Extraterrestrial phenomenon? Even the Former Canadian Minister of Defense has made this information known! 

Fear. Utter pants wetting fear.

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3 hours ago, Dejarma said:

How many TV interviews has Grusch participated in so far= many!

Not everyone whistle blows for money. Just look at Edward Snowden, who gave up a six figure salary, living in Hawaii, to simply do the right thing.

You don’t rise to this level of authority, in the intelligence community, if your primary objective is making money. That would be like Donald Trump obtaining an ultra top secret level clearance, without being elected President. 

The possible lie that I’m talking about, is that the Pentagon’s hand is being forced to tell the truth, revealing their previous concealment and possible collaboration, because they are afraid of the consequences.

It’s even possible that the Pentagon’s hand is being forced by an opposing Higher Power. 

 

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On 6/8/2023 at 11:02 PM, Raptor Witness said:

The real "BS" is witholding the data from The People, which violates the Constitution.

What data they do, or do not have is debatable. But the Bible is real BS.

Just PM me and I can show you.

Cricket    Cricket   Cricket

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