[Merged] Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin

[Raptor Witness]

3 hours ago, Davros of Skaro said:

What data they do, or do not have is debatable. But the Bible is real BS ….

The only “debate” you seem interested in, is denial.

The Bible is more than a moral reference, it also contains a motive for this phenomenon, which is more truthful than the Pentagon.

When Jesus taught that the Days of Noah would return, He was talking about a curious story in Genesis 6. It’s a story about genetic engineering, and what Gene Roddenberry, in the Star Trek series, meant by “The Prime Directive.” 

Whether you agree with the apparent motive for the Pentagon’s denials, will not protect them or U.S. from what is coming. “War in Heaven” spreads to the Earth. That’s how you get these craft, crashing to earth, and these alien bodies. Their clever denials also violates the separation of church and state.

The Pentagon is afraid, as they should be, because the Founder of our DNA considers our planet, a possession. They will be destroyed, along with their alien entourage. So pick a side, or you won’t exist.

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[Dejarma]

16 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

So pick a side, or you won’t exist.

i'm confused; what sides are available?

[Raptor Witness]

4 hours ago, Dejarma said:

i'm confused; what sides are available?

Well, think about it, if you were Higher than human, rather than owning land on a planet, you might own the planet itself.

If you lived forever, then you could engineer the story of your existence, through a living image of yourself. Man is logically how an immortal comes to be, deserving of immortality. It is only our arrogance that prevents us from seeing this.

Faith, is the appreciation of existence. Humility is the birth of a new immortal.

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[LightAngel]

On 6/9/2023 at 6:29 PM, Raptor Witness said:

I agree, and I have to ask the same question.

Could this just be another lie?

The problem with that reasoning is, I think it’s a felony to lie to any federal investigator, not just the FBI. It wouldn’t make sense that you would only get in trouble for lying to the FBI, in their investigations. I can’t imagine any law written like that.

 

You should always question everything no matter what the source is!

Again, I do believe that we are not alone, but I always question what we are being told.

Trust is a great thing, but blind trust isn't healthy.

 

But damn, I also want him to be a trustworthy person and a friend of humanity. This will definitely be an interesting story to follow, and I hope it turns out to be a true story. 

[Rlyeh]

On 6/6/2023 at 8:31 PM, Raptor Witness said:

As I referenced above, we have been given a proverbial precedent. 

So heaven is the sky.

[Rlyeh]

12 hours ago, Dejarma said:

i'm confused; what sides are available?

Raptor's imaginary friend or his imaginary enemy.

[Raptor Witness]

Source

The motivation here is the fear of some key folks, of their criminal involvement.

If you recall, this was the exact same motivation, which pushed Edward Snowden out of his cushy six-figure job, in Hawaii, and landed him much poorer, in Russia.

These whistleblowers have to be fearful of contact, because at that point, suddenly, these key folks are exposed to their crimes.

What these interstellar crashes actually mean, is the adversaries of these aliens, are stronger than the aliens falling to earth.

I wouldn’t be surprised, if these aliens have already explained their dilemma to their human contacts.

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[Davros of Skaro]

On 6/10/2023 at 6:02 AM, Raptor Witness said:

The only “debate” you seem interested in, is denial.

I do not see anything from you in my inbox.

On 6/10/2023 at 6:02 AM, Raptor Witness said:

The Bible is more than a moral reference, it also contains a motive for this phenomenon, which is more truthful than the Pentagon.

The OT is mythical propaganda to unite nomadic people (obvious benefits), and draws upon older polytheistic traditions. 

The phenomenon is way overblown. 

On 6/10/2023 at 6:02 AM, Raptor Witness said:

When Jesus taught that the Days of Noah would return, He was talking about a curious story in Genesis 6. It’s a story about genetic engineering, and what Gene Roddenberry, in the Star Trek series, meant by “The Prime Directive.” 

It's just remnants of polytheistic myths.

You do realise that ancient people seen the orbits of the planets as spheres of Heavens, and that the planets were Gods? Also travel there was possible through dreams, or divine help so they believed.

On 6/10/2023 at 6:02 AM, Raptor Witness said:

Whether you agree with the apparent motive for the Pentagon’s denials, will not protect them or U.S. from what is coming. “War in Heaven” spreads to the Earth. That’s how you get these craft, crashing to earth, and these alien bodies. Their clever denials also violates the separation of church and state.

Are you even open to the possibility that there has not been any alien crashes on Earth?

On 6/10/2023 at 6:02 AM, Raptor Witness said:

The Pentagon is afraid, as they should be, because the Founder of our DNA considers our planet, a possession. They will be destroyed, along with their alien entourage. So pick a side, or you won’t exist.

Hey. I will break it down Sesame Street style on how the Bible is not what you think it is. Just inbox me.

What a nightmarish world you live in.

[Unusual Tournament]

20 hours ago, LightAngel said:

 

You should always question everything no matter what the source is!

Again, I do believe that we are not alone, but I always question what we are being told.

Trust is a great thing, but blind trust isn't healthy.

 

But damn, I also want him to be a trustworthy person and a friend of humanity. This will definitely be an interesting story to follow, and I hope it turns out to be a true story. 

Well who made these allegations of crashed UAP/UFO’s?

David Grusch is former airforce, scholarship in physics. Intelligence officer for 14 years. Co-lead UAP effort out of NGA

Had ability to be read into any program he needed. Has not been rebuffed or silenced by his government employer’s. 
 

…source is good for me

[Raptor Witness]

2 hours ago, Davros of Skaro said:

I do not see anything from you in my inbox.

The OT is mythical propaganda to unite nomadic people (obvious benefits), and draws upon older polytheistic traditions. 

The phenomenon is way overblown. 

It's just remnants of polytheistic myths.

You do realise that ancient people seen the orbits of the planets as spheres of Heavens, and that the planets were Gods? Also travel there was possible through dreams, or divine help so they believed.

Are you even open to the possibility that there has not been any alien crashes on Earth?

Hey. I will break it down Sesame Street style on how the Bible is not what you think it is. Just inbox me.

What a nightmarish world you live in.

I simply provided a possible motive for why these vehicles may have crashed. I already respect your opinion, so there’s no need to debate the Source of my beliefs.

[Davros of Skaro]

14 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

I simply provided a possible motive for why these vehicles may have crashed. I already respect your opinion, so there’s no need to debate the Source of my beliefs.

Your reasoning is highly flawed, but your mind will not let you see it. In your mind you are a special creation, and you cannot let that go.

[Unusual Tournament]

21 minutes ago, Davros of Skaro said:

Your reasoning is highly flawed, but your mind will not let you see it. In your mind you are a special creation, and you cannot let that go.

Yes thank you Jedi Master

[Davros of Skaro]

1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Yes thank you Jedi Master

See. These are not the droids you are looking for.

[Raptor Witness]

2 hours ago, Davros of Skaro said:

Your reasoning is highly flawed, but your mind will not let you see it. In your mind you are a special creation, and you cannot let that go.

We each have our own path on the earth, with distinct personal mystical experiences.

The Power of Heaven exceeds that of man, in mine. That’s why I have no fear of these alien craft or their captains, who have reportedly hurt men. I know they will soon be beaten by the Lord of the Earth, not simply because I have read it, but because I can feel, taste and smell it.

If I am wrong, what have I lost, for I have already beheld Creation? If you are right, what have you gained, but a little of your own pride?

[Rlyeh]

9 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

That’s why I have no fear of these alien craft or their captains, who have reportedly hurt men.

But women are fair game.

 

[Golden Duck]

8 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Well who made these allegations of crashed UAP/UFO’s?

David Grusch is former airforce, scholarship in physics. Intelligence officer for 14 years. Co-lead UAP effort out of NGA

Had ability to be read into any program he needed. Has not been rebuffed or silenced by his government employer’s. 
 

…source is good for me

In which fairy tale?

[skyeagle409]

13 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Well who made these allegations of crashed UAP/UFO’s?

David Grusch is former airforce, scholarship in physics. Intelligence officer for 14 years. Co-lead UAP effort out of NGA

Had ability to be read into any program he needed. Has not been rebuffed or silenced by his government employer’s. 
 

…source is good for me

 

In addition, Jonathan Grey, a current US intelligence official at the National Air and  Space Intelligence Center (Nasic), confirmed the existence of “exotic materials” to the Debrief, adding: “We are not alone.”  Basically speaking that is what General Arthur Exon ,Brigadier General Stephen Lovekin and others in high government positions have asserted as well. 

https://theconversation.com/alien-spacecraft-allegations-suggest-the-pentagon-has-approved-conspiracy-theories-about-itself-207205

 

[Davros of Skaro]

20 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

We each have our own path on the earth, with distinct personal mystical experiences.

Are you scaring kids with your mystical experiences?

20 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

The Power of Heaven exceeds that of man, in mine. That’s why I have no fear of these alien craft or their captains, who have reportedly hurt men. I know they will soon be beaten by the Lord of the Earth, not simply because I have read it, but because I can feel, taste and smell it.

It always boils down to the feelly feels, and that's how some people come to their truths.

20 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

If I am wrong, what have I lost, for I have already beheld Creation? If you are right, what have you gained, but a little of your own pride?

I rather believe something that's true wether it's comfortable, or not. On the other hand going around warning people of nonsense sounds like a waste of time to me.

[Raptor Witness]

5 hours ago, Davros of Skaro said:

Are you scaring kids with your mystical experiences?

It always boils down to the feelly feels, and that's how some people come to their truths.

I rather believe something that's true wether it's comfortable, or not. On the other hand going around warning people of nonsense sounds like a waste of time to me.

Fear of an enemy, such as a virus, is a good, natural thing, and unfortunately the human family has many enemies.

I respect your view of the world. You are your own god, and you are in control of everything that’s not random in your life, and take total responsibility. It’s also logical for someone with this mindset to deny supernatural, anything.

Too much fear is definitely a problem for U.S., but not enough is, also. Have you ever considered the possibility that the way we got smarter, as a species, is because smart people were afraid of danger?

Fear is a natural byproduct of intelligence, or is it the other way round? 

[Trelane]

On 6/11/2023 at 11:21 PM, Raptor Witness said:

These whistleblowers have to be fearful of contact, because at that point, suddenly, these key folks are exposed to their crimes.

 

So fearful, they waive their rights to anonymity and go on nationally televised interviews. Yeah, sure buddy.

[Raptor Witness]

4 minutes ago, Trelane said:

So fearful, they waive their rights to anonymity and go on nationally televised interviews. Yeah, sure buddy.

If widespread contact comes first, then the whistleblowers and their secret human supporters, fearful of their complicity, with a known human enemy, have far more explaining to do.

[skyeagle409]

1 hour ago, Trelane said:

So fearful, they waive their rights to anonymity and go on nationally televised interviews. Yeah, sure buddy.

They are revealing reality, which has nothing to do with weather balloons. Even Congress admitted in its report that UAPs are not considered man-made and remember, we have come a long way since the Pentagon admitted the Navy's videos are real and the U.S. government now refusing to rule out aliens. 

 

Ruling out aliens? Senior U.S. general says not ruling out anything yet

WASHINGTON, Feb 12 (Reuters) - The U.S. Air Force general overseeing North American airspace said on Sunday after a series of shoot-downs of unidentified objects that he would not rule out aliens or any other explanation yet, deferring to U.S. intelligence experts.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ruling-out-aliens-senior-us-general-says-not-ruling-out-anything-yet-2023-02-13/

 

So, he is deferring to U. S. intelligence experts, but look what the intelligence experts have been saying!

 

Four US Intelligence Directors Hint That UFOs Are Alien Spaceships & Believe There Are Other Dimensions

Recently, two veteran CIA officers Jim Semivan & John Ramirez, who have expressed personal interest in UFO/UAP issues and cases, joined the George Knapp show to discuss the CIA’s role in the study of UFOs and their own experiences.

https://www.howandwhys.com/four-us-intelligence-directors-hint-that-ufos-are-alien-spaceships-believe-there-are-other-dimensions/

 

UFOs buzzing US warships may be aliens: Top spy chief

UFO’s buzzing warships and being reported by US pilots could be of alien origin, America’s top spy chief has said in a stunning admission.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/11/ufos-buzzing-us-warships-may-be-aliens-top-spy-chief/

Edited June 13 by skyeagle409

[Hawken]

[Vaz]

On 6/6/2023 at 8:16 PM, Phantom309 said:

Bottom line - this is great news, it totally supports our view we are not alone and never have been.

Roswell- and apparantly many others - happened. Retreivals have been going on for years. 

The idiot naysakers, debunkers, and clowns have been completley blown out of the water...! We have been right all along.............all along. 

Sweet music to the ears. Love it...!

Haven't we known this for decades now?

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[Saru]

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