[Merged] Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin

[Raptor Witness]

On 6/17/2023 at 6:33 PM, Dejarma said:

it's not a fact- stop using that word in this context, it's boring 

Actually, if you add up all the relevant witnesses, especially since Roswell, it's not "boring," at all.

[Raptor Witness]

On 6/18/2023 at 3:10 AM, skyeagle409 said:

Now that it has been determined that an extraterrestrial presence here on Earth is a really, it's time for the government to begin the declassification process.

 

I want to seel how they are bending space-time, to see if we can save ourselves by possibly turning back the clock on any part of our lives that we want.

[+joc]

8 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

UAPs are already here and have been for centuries.

So what?  That UAPs are seen commonly these days, but ONLY UAPs no actual aliens or alien craft...dramatically lessens the probability of Aliens not increases it.  The closest possible planet that Aliens would be able to come here from would be the alpha centauri system...which is still 4 years away travelling at the speed of light.  And (I know you don't take much stock in the laws of physics) the laws of physics tells us that it is impossible for us to travel at the speed of light.  So then, how fast do these UAPs travel across interstellar space?   So the rarity of seeing UAPs that are actually Alien Spacecraft would most likely be very rare...not 'all the time'.

[skyeagle409]

19 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

I want to seel how they are bending space-time, to see if we can save ourselves by possibly turning back the clock on any part of our lives that we want.

That would be interesting. Many people are not aware that time slows down on passengers traveling eastward on an airplane vs. passengers traveling westward. The differences are so minor that it requires two atomic clocks to detect, which has already been done and proven.

 

[skyeagle409]

13 hours ago, joc said:

So what?  That UAPs are seen commonly these days, but ONLY UAPs no actual aliens or alien craft...dramatically lessens the probability of Aliens not increases it.  The closest possible planet that Aliens would be able to come here from would be the alpha centauri system...which is still 4 years away travelling at the speed of light.

I would think that would not be a big problem for alien beings who are thousands or even millions of years more advanced than mankind. 

13 hours ago, joc said:

And (I know you don't take much stock in the laws of physics) the laws of physics tells us that it is impossible for us to travel at the speed of light.  So then, how fast do these UAPs travel across interstellar space?   So the rarity of seeing UAPs that are actually Alien Spacecraft would most likely be very rare...not 'all the time'. And (I know you don't take much stock in the laws of physics) the laws of physics tells us that it is impossible for us to travel at the speed of light

It was not that long ago that people claimed that an idea of an airplane was impossible and let's not forget Admiral William Leahy who said, the atomic bomb will not work and that he spoke as an expert on explosives. 

 

 

Edited June 21 by skyeagle409

[+joc]

1 hour ago, skyeagle409 said:

I would think that would not be a big problem for alien beings who are thousands or even millions of years more advanced than mankind. 

I think life on other planets is somewhat certain.  I also think that life on Mars or on the moons of Jupiter is highly likely.  Not intelligent life.  But microbial life.  Nonetheless...the only reason we are here is because of the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.  

I'm not saying there aren't alien civilizations such as you are talking about.  I do think it is quite preposterous to think that they have bases in our oceans and have to date been undetectable...except for fuzzy UAPs on Navy radar.  Also if there were advanced Alien Civilizations that frequently visited the Earth...why haven't we seen them in a very real way?  No pictures of space ships, etc.  And if we had (as some believe) that we have in our possession an Alien vessel...why haven't these incredibly intelligent forms of life taken back from us their property?

[skyeagle409]

19 hours ago, joc said:

I think life on other planets is somewhat certain.  I also think that life on Mars or on the moons of Jupiter is highly likely.  Not intelligent life.  But microbial life.  Nonetheless...the only reason we are here is because of the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.  

I'm not saying there aren't alien civilizations such as you are talking about.  I do think it is quite preposterous to think that they have bases in our oceans and have to date been undetectable...except for fuzzy UAPs on Navy radar.  Also if there were advanced Alien Civilizations that frequently visited the Earth...why haven't we seen them in a very real way?  No pictures of space ships, etc.  And if we had (as some believe) that we have in our possession an Alien vessel...why haven't these incredibly intelligent forms of life taken back from us their property?

Well, UAPs that have been tracked as they conducted right-angled maneuvers at hypersonic speeds that are definitely not those of mankind, which indicates those UAPs were operated by extraterrestrials. Here's one example of many.

What Radar Controllers and Pilots over Washington D. C. Witnessed

Howard Cocklin, hastily called over by Zacko, also saw the bright trail. Together they figured the object's speed from its trace.” It had been making two miles per second-7,200 m.p.h.  "It was as if it had descended rapidly, almost vertically,"......"That would bring it suddenly into the A.S.R. beam area. It seemed to level off for those few seconds, and then abruptly ascend out of the beam again."

That was definitely not a craft of mankind.

 

[Trelane]

That's still not an accurate representation of what you propose. The analogy of 1+1=12 is what we see with these illogical jumps to conclusion. kind of funny though.

The hamster wheel keeps spinning.....

[Dejarma]

16 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Well, UAPs that have been tracked as they conducted right-angled maneuvers at hypersonic speeds that are definitely not those of mankind

star trek's enterprise moves at incredible speeds.. That's man made! 

[skyeagle409]

14 hours ago, Trelane said:

That's still not an accurate representation of what you propose. The analogy of 1+1=12 is what we see with these illogical jumps to conclusion. kind of funny though.

The hamster wheel keeps spinning.....

In that case, where is your man-made evidence that prove otherwise?! 

[skyeagle409]

12 hours ago, Dejarma said:

star trek's enterprise moves at incredible speeds.. That's man made! 

Where's your supporting radar data?

[Raptor Witness]

Senator Rubio confirms the truth … and asks for the motive to lie about this.

At the 1:45 minute mark:

 

[skyeagle409]

19 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

Senator Rubio confirms the truth … and asks for the motive to lie about this.

At the 1:45 minute mark:

 

 

 

I am not surprised at all, and I am amazed just how far we have come since the release of those Navy UAP videos.

Recent comments made by military and intelligence officials have also indicated that those UAPs are not of this Earth and now, the government refuses to rule out aliens in addition to a Congressional report does not recognize UAPs as man-made craft. In other words, it's a brand-new day. 

 

 

[Raptor Witness]

3 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

... In other words, it's a brand-new day.

It's a "new" day all right, but this enemy has yet to appear in the flesh, openly. This revelation is likely the first step in a chaotic collision of worlds, where we are the prize.

[Raptor Witness]

Interesting…

 

[Alchopwn]

On 6/6/2023 at 5:53 PM, Davros of Skaro said:

Has vast technology for interplanetary travel, but they keep crashing. 

We don't know how much interaction these aliens have with our planet, so we cannot know what percentage failure rate their systems have, and at what sort of distances they are traveling with what sort of systemic wear and tear their machinery is experiencing.  It does suggest that the problems of entropy remain regardless of how advanced the tech becomes.

[Trelane]

Oh dear, oh no. "Failure rate" eh? That's what we're going to propose to split hairs on this? They can defy the laws of physics but can't stick landings? So, to cope with that ridiculousness now we're trying to propose another ridiculous statistic to justify the alleged crashes. Brilliant.

I'll come back later to see what revelations or disclosure has been provided. Eyes on the skies folks, you might just get a glimpse.

[Doc Socks Junior]

Airplanes crash each year, and that's not even a bleeding-edge technology.

The argument "it's high technology therefore it's ridiculous to think that it fails" is ridiculous.

[Raptor Witness]

In terms of why these vastly superior craft might crash to Earth, the lack of imagination, expressed here, is sometimes staggeringly stupid.

[Golden Duck]

2 hours ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

Airplanes crash each year, and that's not even a bleeding-edge technology.

The argument "it's high technology therefore it's ridiculous to think that it fails" is ridiculous.

 

Hmmm...that's an interesting take; but, how do you know airplanes crash each year?

[Doc Socks Junior]

1 minute ago, Golden Duck said:

Hmmm...that's an interesting take; but, how do you know airplanes crash each year?

One hears things.

[Essan]

On 6/21/2023 at 4:38 AM, joc said:

And if we had (as some believe) that we have in our possession an Alien vessel...why haven't these incredibly intelligent forms of life taken back from us their property?

The one possible explanation is that Douglas Adams was (sort of) correct.  

All these alien spacecraft that keep crashing on Earth in conveniently remote locations for the US military to find aren't actually real spacecraft at all.   They are perfectly functional fakes.   Made by a disembodied supercomputer that we mistakenly refer to as the asteroid belt.    Their purpose is to advance the already terribly xenophobic and warlike humans in order to enable them to get out into space and complete the job the super-computer was originally built for : the complete and utter annihilation of all life in the universe.  A task for which, we humans, do seem to remarkable well designed for ......

In other words: the aliens (or alien supercomputer) are deliberately giving us these spacecraft for us to back engineer so we can go out into the universe and kill everyone.

[+joc]

1 hour ago, Essan said:

The one possible explanation is that Douglas Adams was (sort of) correct.  

All these alien spacecraft that keep crashing on Earth in conveniently remote locations for the US military to find aren't actually real spacecraft at all.   They are perfectly functional fakes.   Made by a disembodied supercomputer that we mistakenly refer to as the asteroid belt.    Their purpose is to advance the already terribly xenophobic and warlike humans in order to enable them to get out into space and complete the job the super-computer was originally built for : the complete and utter annihilation of all life in the universe.  A task for which, we humans, do seem to remarkable well designed for ......

In other words: the aliens (or alien supercomputer) are deliberately giving us these spacecraft for us to back engineer so we can go out into the universe and kill everyone.

Now that makes perfect sense!  You nailed it!

[Trelane]

13 hours ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

Airplanes crash each year, and that's not even a bleeding-edge technology.

The argument "it's high technology therefore it's ridiculous to think that it fails" is ridiculous.

 

Interesting comparison as you are trying to compare two things that you state aren't remotely close in regard to technology.

Anyway, planes crash, and we can see the crash sites. The crashes are all over the news. Things are known and reported. You don't hear about a plane crash from one or two people only to find zero evidence of any crash or crashed plane.

Edited July 6 by Trelane

[Doc Socks Junior]

20 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Interesting comparison as you are trying to compare two things that you state aren't remotely close in regard to technology.

What specifics do you know about alien technology and it's relationship to ours that you're not telling the world?

Yeah, I'm being conservative with the analogy. Higher tech things are more likely to break.

20 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Anyway, planes crash, and we can see the crash sites. The crashes are all over the news. Things are known and reported. You don't hear about a plane crash from one or two people only to find zero evidence of any crash or crashed plane.

With planes, we know where they started and where they're going. So a crash is quite obvious.

Have we found MH370 yet? As a smart person, I'm sure you know what percentage of the Earth surface is ocean.

 I'm pretty sure these allegations indicate a plausible explanation as to why one might not find evidence. Not that they're accurate, obviously.