[Merged] Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin

[skyeagle409]

12 hours ago, joc said:

Are you aware of my claims of data that I have been presenting that depicts extraterrestrial craft? If so, please present evidence that refutes my claim. Failure to do so will simply underline my extraterrestrial claim.

 

 

 

[skyeagle409]

12 hours ago, Piney said:

Evolutionary biology refutes any humanoid aliens. 

But then again you can't even properly define gravity. 

I can provide knowledge of data evidence that proves that extraterrestrial beings have better knowledge of gravity than mankind.

[Piney]

6 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

I can provide knowledge of data evidence that proves that extraterrestrial beings have better knowledge of gravity than mankind.

OoooK! 

[esoteric_toad]

35 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

I can provide knowledge of data evidence that proves that extraterrestrial beings have better knowledge of gravity than mankind.

Correctly worded this should read:

I can provide knowledge of SUPPOSED data evidence that SUPPOSED extraterrestrial beings have better knowledge of gravity than mankind(..................supposedly). I CANNOT actually provide and REAL evidence of it though.

 

You can provide speculation, wishes, dreams, hopes and beliefs. Just don't call it evidence.

[skyeagle409]

49 minutes ago, Piney said:

OoooK! 

I could go a bit further than that. Check the FAA's 14 CFR § 91.817 - Civil aircraft sonic boom. 

[skyeagle409]

46 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

Correctly worded this should read:

I can provide knowledge of SUPPOSED data evidence that SUPPOSED extraterrestrial beings have better knowledge of gravity than mankind(..................supposedly). I CANNOT actually provide and REAL evidence of it though.

You can provide speculation, wishes, dreams, hopes and beliefs. Just don't call it evidence.

Would you care to accept my challenge to refute data I have been posting where I have stated the data depicts extraterrestrial evidence?

[+joc]

2 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Are you aware of my claims of data that I have been presenting that depicts extraterrestrial craft? If so, please present evidence that refutes my claim. Failure to do so will simply underline my extraterrestrial claim.

Kirkpatrick urged UFO enthusiasts to submit their research and analysis of UAP incidents to credible peer reviewed scientific journals because AARO is working to do the same. That is how science works, not by blog or social media," he added. link

Edited August 4, 2023 by joc

[skyeagle409]

3 hours ago, joc said:

Kirkpatrick urged UFO enthusiasts to submit their research and analysis of UAP incidents to credible peer reviewed scientific journals because AARO is working to do the same. That is how science works, not by blog or social media," he added. link

To let you know, he has been part of the problem. You might want to do a background check to understand why.

[+joc]

5 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

To let you know, he has been part of the problem. You might want to do a background check to understand why.

The problem is your own inability to process thought in a logical and demonstrable way.   

 You...the guy who told us the Pentagon had confirmed that Aliens are real...now saying the very man they put in charge of the office is problematic.  He's only problematic because he doesn't agree with you.  You are right, everyone else is wrong.  That kind of thinking is incredibly narcissistic. The problem is that you don't see that.  The problem is not Kirkpatrick...the problem is YOU. You are wrong.  Your illogical thought process is Wrong.  Your motivations are Wrong.  Your ideas are Wrong!  You are wrong skyeagle...you're wrong.

[Trelane]

3 hours ago, joc said:

The problem is your own inability to process thought in a logical and demonstrable way.   

 You...the guy who told us the Pentagon had confirmed that Aliens are real...now saying the very man they put in charge of the office is problematic.  He's only problematic because he doesn't agree with you.  You are right, everyone else is wrong.  That kind of thinking is incredibly narcissistic. The problem is that you don't see that.  The problem is not Kirkpatrick...the problem is YOU. You are wrong.  Your illogical thought process is Wrong.  Your motivations are Wrong.  Your ideas are Wrong!  You are wrong skyeagle...you're wrong.

He's been demonstrably wrong across multiple threads. I'd like to also add that he he's also been shown to be a liar about his alleged service in the Air Force. So, his comments or claims cannot be taken seriously.

He was curiously absent from the forums for quite some time then, like loud wet fart in a church he's come back to spam nonsense.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Trelane

[skyeagle409]

On 8/4/2023 at 4:42 AM, joc said:

The problem is your own inability to process thought in a logical and demonstrable way.   

 You...the guy who told us the Pentagon had confirmed that Aliens are real...now saying the very man they put in charge of the office is problematic.  He's only problematic because he doesn't agree with you.  You are right, everyone else is wrong.  That kind of thinking is incredibly narcissistic. The problem is that you don't see that.  The problem is not Kirkpatrick...the problem is YOU. You are wrong.  Your illogical thought process is Wrong.  Your motivations are Wrong.  Your ideas are Wrong!  You are wrong skyeagle...you're wrong.

 

The problem for you is, you have failed to present man-made evidence the refutes my extraterrestrial evidence, which effectively reconfirms my ET evidence as factual. 

[skyeagle409]

On 8/4/2023 at 8:01 AM, Trelane said:

He's been demonstrably wrong across multiple threads. I'd like to also add that he he's also been shown to be a liar about his alleged service in the Air Force. So, his comments or claims cannot be taken seriously.

He was curiously absent from the forums for quite some time then, like loud wet fart in a church he's come back to spam nonsense.

 

How amusing since you have failed to present any man-made evidence that refutes my ET evidence despite my repeated request for you to do so. Perhaps the reason why you are unable to present such evidence is because it was abducted by you-know-who. 

And yes, I am an Air Force retiree, so may I suggest that you don't call someone a liar about their military service when it is clear and evident that you are totally unaware of the rest of the story as to who I am. 

 

 

[+joc]

2 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

 

The problem for you is, you have failed to present man-made evidence the refutes my extraterrestrial evidence, which effectively reconfirms my ET evidence as factual. 

You are like a broken record...you don't have any extraterrestrial evidence.  Where is the space ship?  Where is the alien?  No sonic boom...no vessel. No vessel, no alien.  Submit your evidence to a Scientific peer reviewed Journal as Kirkpatrick suggested...because social media is just you saying stuff.

[Hazzard]

1 hour ago, joc said:

You are like a broken record...you don't have any extraterrestrial evidence.  Where is the space ship?  Where is the alien?  No sonic boom...no vessel. No vessel, no alien.  Submit your evidence to a Scientific peer reviewed Journal as Kirkpatrick suggested...because social media is just you saying stuff.

And that...pretty much sums up, in about as concise a fashion as possible, whats been going on here at UM for an eternity. 

You wont find it put much clearer than that!

 

The only unexplained mystery here is why Skyeagle keeps banging his head against the wall in here when he has all this rock solid proof of ET visitation... 

 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

2 hours ago, Hazzard said:

And that...pretty much sums up, in about as concise a fashion as possible, whats been going on here at UM for an eternity. 

You wont find it put much clearer than that!

 

The only unexplained mystery here is why Skyeagle keeps banging his head against the wall in here when he has all this rock solid proof of ET visitation... 

 

Hi Hazzard. If you don't mind, I'd like to explain why I continue to come to this forum when I am absolutely sure that UFO's exist.
I come in for the knowledge and the discussions about UFO's and their implications. you see? simple.

On the other hand, you have no real purpose in here. "learning" is out because you do not believe that any of the stories posted here are true.
So you are really limited in here to arguing with people that do believe UFO's exist and they simply do not listen to you. very simple

[Golden Duck]

1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Hi Hazzard. If you don't mind, I'd like to explain why I continue to come to this forum when I am absolutely sure that UFO's exist.
I come in for the knowledge and the discussions about UFO's and their implications. you see? simple.

On the other hand, you have no real purpose in here. "learning" is out because you do not believe that any of the stories posted here are true.
So you are really limited in here to arguing with people that do believe UFO's exist and they simply do not listen to you. very simple

I'm absolutely sure that UFOs exist too.  There is no doubt that there are objects apparently flying in  the air that people can not identify.

Some very knowledgeable people have frequented this forum and they are willing to share their knowledge by answering questions. 

There is another cohort that jump to conclusions and refuse to enter into a reasonable discussion.

Edited August 6, 2023 by Golden Duck

[skyeagle409]

7 hours ago, joc said:

You are like a broken record...you don't have any extraterrestrial evidence.  Where is the space ship?  Where is the alien?  No sonic boom...no vessel. No vessel, no alien.  Submit your evidence to a Scientific peer reviewed Journal as Kirkpatrick suggested...because social media is just you saying stuff.

 

Sorry, but until you post your man-made evidence that refutes my extraterrestrial evidence, you simply have no case. Now, when I can I expect to receive your evidence?

Edited August 6, 2023 by skyeagle409

[skyeagle409]

5 hours ago, Hazzard said:

The only unexplained mystery here is why Skyeagle keeps banging his head against the wall in here when he has all this rock solid proof of ET visitation... 

Since I have yet to receive any man-made evidence from the debunkers, my extraterrestrial evidence remains unrefuted. It would be nice to have debunkers address the data at post  #915 

In addition, you are also ignoring official documentation and testimonies that confirmed what the data depicted. And to further add, it is very clear those UFOs in the videos had nothing to do with natural phenomena as the data proves. Instead, debunkers pull false and misleading information out of thin air and expect it to stick not knowing that multiple airborne and ship-based sensors confirmed the objects as reported by the pilots and in some cases, by sailors who were observing very clear images of the UFOs through the ship's "Big Eye" scope and images on special screens that were data linked by the aircraft.  The aircraft were also equipped with cameras that sent crystal clear images of the UFOs back to the ships in real time that were being tracked by radar and infrared sensors. but it seems that debunkers were unaware those capabilities. I even posted aerial camera footage of an F-4 Phantom showing just how clear the images of the UFOs would have been to those viewing the objects on their screens aboard the ships.

As one sailor said, the images were so clear he could make out small protrusions beneath a UFO. I posted that image of the F-4 to prove my point that those objects had nothing to do with natural phenomena which is understandable considering the UFOs were objects under intelligent control as confirmed by radar, infrared and optical sensors and the "Big Eye" scopes as well as visual confirmation by the aircrews.

So, the question is, given the fact that multiple detection and tracking sensors have confirmed the objects as flying machines under intelligent control, why are debunkers trying to substitute something in place of the objects that doesn't fit reality? All I am doing is setting the record straight on the way things are in the real world. 

 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2023 by skyeagle409

[+joc]

8 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

 

Sorry, but until you post your man-made evidence that refutes my extraterrestrial evidence, you simply have no case. Now, when I can I expect to receive your evidence?

When can a peer reviewed Scientific Journal expect to receive your evidence?

[+joc]

9 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

And to further add, it is very clear those UFOs in the videos had nothing to do with natural phenomena as the data proves. Instead, debunkers pull false and misleading information out of thin air and expect it to stick not knowing that multiple airborne and ship-based sensors confirmed the objects as reported by the pilots and in some cases, by sailors who were observing very clear images of the UFOs through the ship's "Big Eye" scope and images on special screens that were data linked by the aircraft. The aircraft were also equipped with cameras that sent crystal clear images of the UFOs back to the ships in real time that were being tracked by radar and infrared sensors. but it seems that debunkers were unaware those capabilities. I even posted aerial camera footage of an F-4 Phantom showing just how clear the images of the UFOs would have been to those viewing the objects on their screens aboard the ships.

 Why have you not  posted any crystal clear images of the UFOs?  In the above paragraph you said:

Instead, debunkers pull false and misleading information out of thin air

And then you have the audacity to say:

I even posted aerial camera footage of an F-4 Phantom showing just how clear the images of the UFOs would have been to those viewing the objects on their screens aboard the ships.

Really??  Where are the images of the UFOs you claim exist?  You know, the ones from the aircraft that sent crystal clear images back in real time to the Navy Ships?  Where are they? Have you actually seen these crystal clear images of UFO you claim  exist?  ...or...have you only seen what those crystal clear images 'would have' looked like? 

Please include a link to the crystal clear images taken by Navy Flyers.  And by all means, please include the crystal clear images of UFOs taken in real time by Navy Pilots when you submit all of your evidence to the peer reviewed Scientific Journal of your choice.  

And one last question...  One would logically assume that Sean Kirkpatrick with the Pentagons AARO office would have seen these crystal clear images ...and yet...he doesn't make the conclusion you do.  

 Sorry, but until you post your Crystal Clear Images of UFOs  evidence that refutes my 'you are lying out your teeth' evidence,  you simply have no case. Now, when can I expect to receive your Crystal Clear Images of UFOs evidence?

Edited August 6, 2023 by joc

[Hazzard]

11 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Since I have yet to receive any man-made evidence from the debunkers, my extraterrestrial evidence remains unrefuted. It would be nice to have debunkers address the data at post  #915 

There you go again... How you cant even grasp this simple little thing called Burden of Proof is beyond me! 

 

It is the one making the claim (that some UFOs are piloted by ET) that has the burden of proof... Not those who find the claim doubtful.

[Golden Duck]

11 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Since I have yet to receive any man-made evidence from the debunkers, my extraterrestrial evidence remains unrefuted. It would be nice to have debunkers address the data at post  #915 

It has been addressed.  It doesn't depict one contact out performing conventional aircraft.  The significant changes in velocity coincide with obvious switch in contact.

You won't address that issue.  You'll just beg the question.

Prove me wrong and engage in the discussion.

Edited August 6, 2023 by Golden Duck

[Trelane]

"This is the song that never ends......"

[skyeagle409]

9 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

It has been addressed.  It doesn't depict one contact out performing conventional aircraft.  The significant changes in velocity coincide with obvious switch in contact.

You won't address that issue.  You'll just beg the question.

Prove me wrong and engage in the discussion.

It is very easy to prove you wrong so let's do a review.

 

  Col. de Brouwer explained to Paris Match reporter Marie-Therese de Brosses, that the change of velocity from 280 KPM to 1,800 KPH while descending from 3,000 meters to 1,000 meters in one second, was a fantastic acceleration equivalent to 40 Gs.

 

Belgian UFO Data

13 210 570 10000

14 270 770 7000

15 270 770 6000

16 270 780 6000

17 270 790 5000

18 290 1010 4000

 

 

Professor Emile Schweitzer

Professor Emile Schweitzer, one of Belgium’s leading radar experts examined the aircraft data and concluded that these were real returns from real objects moving around the sky. One case recorded a craft doing a full speed sharp 90 degree angle turn upwards...but I’m of the opinion that it’s highly likely that extraterrestrial intelligence is behind the UFO phenomenon!”

Emile J. Schweicher,
Professor Emeritus (Ret.)
Royal Military Academy, Belgium

 

Rear Adm. D.S. Fahrney
Former Navy missile chief 

WASHINGTON AP - Retired Rear Adm. Delmer S. Fahrney, once head of the Navy's guided missile program, said Wednesday reliable reports indicate that "there are objects coming into our atmosphere at very high speeds. Fahrney told a news conference that "no agency in this country or Russia is able to duplicate at this time the speeds and accelerations which radar and observers indicate these flying objects are able to achieve."]

 

Seems that you are no in tuned to reality nor are you supported by the experts.

 

[Golden Duck]

2 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

It is very easy to prove you wrong so let's do a review.

 

  Col. de Brouwer explained to Paris Match reporter Marie-Therese de Brosses, that the change of velocity from 280 KPM to 1,800 KPH while descending from 3,000 meters to 1,000 meters in one second, was a fantastic acceleration equivalent to 40 Gs.

 

Belgian UFO Data

13 210 570 10000

14 270 770 7000

15 270 770 6000

16 270 780 6000

17 270 790 5000

18 290 1010 4000

 

 

Professor Emile Schweitzer

Professor Emile Schweitzer, one of Belgium’s leading radar experts examined the aircraft data and concluded that these were real returns from real objects moving around the sky. One case recorded a craft doing a full speed sharp 90 degree angle turn upwards...but I’m of the opinion that it’s highly likely that extraterrestrial intelligence is behind the UFO phenomenon!”

Emile J. Schweicher,
Professor Emeritus (Ret.)
Royal Military Academy, Belgium

 

Rear Adm. D.S. Fahrney
Former Navy missile chief 

WASHINGTON AP - Retired Rear Adm. Delmer S. Fahrney, once head of the Navy's guided missile program, said Wednesday reliable reports indicate that "there are objects coming into our atmosphere at very high speeds. Fahrney told a news conference that "no agency in this country or Russia is able to duplicate at this time the speeds and accelerations which radar and observers indicate these flying objects are able to achieve."]

 

Seems that you are no in tuned to reality nor are you supported by the experts.

 

There is not even a 90 degree turn in that list of numbers you put so much faith in.

You don't even have a eye for detail in your plagiarism.  Liars usually can't keep track of their stories.