Current Ukrainian counteroffensives

[Buzz_Light_Year]

Part III

Part IV

 

[bmk1245]

28 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Russian milbloggers are start to loose coherence on if Ukraine is close to, at, or in/controlling Robotyne.  This is actually a good sign as it suggests that stuff is happening faster then the Russian military can create a story for, when Ukraine did the counter offensive around Kharkiv there was near zero coherence among the Russian milbloggers on what was happening.  

Some of the milbloggers are talking about how there is now almost no artillery or air support to assist the Russian ground troops which is a very real possibility.  Ukraine over the past week or so has done a lot to hurt Russian logistics including damaging a bridge 70% of Russian military supplies  cross, destroying a key train station, partisans destroying a railroad bridge south of Melitopol, and taking out multiple ammo and fuel depots throughout southern Ukraine.  At best the Russian military only keeps about 3 days worth of artillery shells dispersed around the artillery so the Russian military might be running into severe logistical issues.  This would also fit with what Prigozhin has said recently of the Russian military being nearly out if ammunition in southern Ukraine.

Yeap, looks like Ukrainians .devastating (strong word) muscovite arrière-garde 

[jmccr8]

Just now, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Here is Prigozhin in a 4 part series detailing what he thinks about the SMO.

Part 1

Part II.

 

Hi Buzz

Thanks for some reason my phone won't copy the vids and can only post the text.

The internal power strugglle in Russia is heating up so ot will be interesting to see how things develop..

[bmk1245]

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Pakistan has been supplying weapons, ammunition and artillery shells to Ukraine since the early days of the invasion by Russia. However, this will be the first time tanks will be supplied to Ukraine by a country other than its western allies

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Even Pakistan...

[jmccr8]

Yevgeny Prigozhin demands the arrest of Russian Defense Minister Shoigu and Gerasimov.

In his demand, Yevgeny Prigozhin accuses them of the deliberate genocide of the Russian people, the tens of thousands of Russian citizens and transfers the land to the enemy.

[jmccr8]

30 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Yevgeny Prigozhin demands the arrest of Russian Defense Minister Shoigu and Gerasimov.

In his demand, Yevgeny Prigozhin accuses them of the deliberate genocide of the Russian people, the tens of thousands of Russian citizens and transfers the land to the enemy.

From the Wagner official channel:

Again auto translate:

❗️ "We were vilely deceived and tried to deprive us of the opportunity to defend our homes and disperse the Wagner PMC.
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We were ready to make concessions to the Ministry of Defense, surrender our weapons and find a solution on how we would continue to defend our country.

These scum launched rocket attacks on our rear camps. A large number of our soldiers died.

We will decide how we will respond to this atrocity. The next step is ours."
 

[DarkHunter]

Sounds like a Russian civil war might be brewing

[jmccr8]

Terrorist Strelkov about the case:

I can’t comment on Prigozhin’s statement that the Wagner PMC camps were hit by rocket attacks by the RF Armed Forces. I also can’t comment on the attached video recording in any way - you can’t understand anything from it. But I state that the country is on the verge of an attempted military coup. Who initiates it is not yet clear. It is possible that both warring factions of the "party of power" are striving for it, with the neutrality of the third (the FSB and the Security Council).

[jmccr8]

“Minister Shoigu cowardly fled from Rostov. At 21:00, he fled, so as not to explain why he was raising helicopters to destroy the fighters, why he was launching missile strikes. This b****** will be stopped."

Prigozhyn

[jmccr8]

4 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Sounds like a Russian civil war might be brewing

Hi Dark

Yes and really thiis is something I have been expecting for the last year

[jmccr8]

"There are 25 thousand of us and we are going to figure out why chaos is happening in the country. Everyone who wants welcomed to join us. We must end this disgrace," - Prigozhin

[bmk1245]

40 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Sounds like a Russian civil war might be brewing

Might be.

[Duke Wellington]

The Daily Mail have released the CCTV footage of the dam being blown.

It was a missile and there is a case being presented that it was a Storm Shadow.

[jmccr8]

9 minutes ago, Electric Scooter said:

The Daily Mail have released the CCTV footage of the dam being blown.

It was a missile and there is a case being presented that it was a Storm Shadow.

Hi ES

So where is your video link?

It has already been established that the exterior of the dam was built to withstand being bombed and that it was blown from the inside.

To have caused the dam to be blown by storm shadow missiles would have required multiple hits. Yesterday you commented on a bridge that was blown using storm shadow so there is a comparison as to the extent of damage that cann be caused by one missile. The bridge is still standing just not usable for traffic.

Edited June 23, 2023 by jmccr8

[jmccr8]

After Prigozhin's statements, a criminal case was initiated on incitement to an armed rebellion, the National Anti-Terrorism Committee of the Russian Federation said

[Buzz_Light_Year]

1 hour ago, DarkHunter said:

Sounds like a Russian civil war might be brewing

Girkin is posting about a possible coup but he's not sure if it's fake or not.

Prigozhen released an audio statement a few minutes ago on Telegram and a translation is supposed to be forthcoming.

[Stiff]

15 minutes ago, Electric Scooter said:

The Daily Mail have released the CCTV footage of the dam being blown.

It was a missile and there is a case being presented that it was a Storm Shadow.

Totally made up. Seeing as russia has already openly and brazenly admitted to blowing the dam, it renders your statement utter bs. 

Like you, I have decided not to add a link. 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

https://t.me/s/milinfolive/102464

Translation from Google

Yevgeny Prigozhin announced the beginning of "the elimination of evil in the person of the country's military leadership." Prigozhin urged not to resist and not to interfere with the combat work of the Wagner PMC fighters, those who will fight back will be destroyed. After the "restoration of justice," Wagner's fighters, according to Prigozhin, will return to the front. This was a response to the alleged missile attack by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the rear camps of the Wagner PMC.

[jmccr8]

Russian state media and telegram channels banned from mentioning any of Prigozhin's statements

Shoigu will be hanged on Red Square and lie down in the mausoleum with Lenin, - Prigozhin.

The “Fortress” plan has been announced in a number of police departments of the Rostov region.

An emergency gathering of personnel has been announced to take control of especially important objects of law enforcement agencies. The plan also provides for readiness to repel an external attack, - Rus media

The Fortress plan has also been announced in Moscow, providing for readiness to repel an external attack

[jmccr8]

Looks like the Russians may end up to involved fighting with each other to fight with the Ukraine. Russians on the front are complaining they don't have ammo to fight as it is so if Russian military factions start fighting with each other ammo will likely be diverted to protect the Krumblin instead of defending front lines.

[Occult1]

1 hour ago, jmccr8 said:

Looks like the Russians may end up to involved fighting with each other to fight with the Ukraine. Russians on the front are complaining they don't have ammo to fight as it is so if Russian military factions start fighting with each other ammo will likely be diverted to protect the Krumblin instead of defending front lines.

Looks like Prigozhin is taking over the Russian military. If he is right that the majority of the troops supports him, they won't be fighting each other. Also, I doubt Prigozhin would be doing this without Putin's blessing.

Edited June 23, 2023 by Occult1

[jmccr8]

42 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

Looks like Prigozhin is taking over the Russian military. If he is right that the majority of the troops supports him, they won't be fighting each other. Also, I doubt Prigozhin would be doing this without Putin's blessing.

Hi Occult

There willl be armed conflict between Russians, have you not seen what has been transpiring today?

There is more than one private army involved as they are owned by oligarchs like Prigozhin that want Putin's chair.

They have already gone into fortress mode in Moscow and just saw that there is a military site near Moscow that is burning. Internet in Russia is now shut down so citizens won't have access to information.

I will post Denys' video when it comes up as it will cover the links I posted earlier today

[Trelane]

Looks like things are about to get a bit spicy on the Russian domestic front. If Wagner shifts focus on the Russian government, Vladdy is doomed. That's what you get for employing a psychopath, I guess.

"Moscow Strikes Kill 'Huge' Number of Wagner Forces – Prigozhin"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/moscow-strikes-kill-huge-number-of-wagner-forces-prigozhin/ar-AA1cXmcq?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7fb2836186194921843d95fae653f4fc&ei=21

"The chief of Russian mercenary group Wagner on Friday accused Moscow's military leadership of ordering strikes on their camps and killing a "huge" number of forces. We were ready to make concessions to the Defense Ministry, surrender our weapons," Yevgeny Prigozhin said in a furious audio message released by his spokespeople."

"Today, seeing that we have not been broken, they conducted missile strikes at our rear camps."

"He vowed to "stop" Moscow's top military leadership and called on Russians not to resist his forces."

"The council of commanders of PMC Wagner has made a decision — the evil that the military leadership of the country brings must be stopped," Prigozhin said in the audio message, urging Russians to remain calm.

[jmccr8]

 

[Tatetopa]

6 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Looks like Prigozhin is taking over the Russian military. If he is right that the majority of the troops supports him, they won't be fighting each other. Also, I doubt Prigozhin would be doing this without Putin's blessing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12228381/Wagner-mercenaries-killed-RUSSIAN-missile-strikes.html

Wagner storms Rostov-on-Don and tanks set up blockade: Prigozhin vows to march on Moscow to take out 'evil' military top brass as Putin says he's inciting CIVIL WAR and Kremlin charges him with armed mutiny.

Things are moving a bit faster, Putin cannot give his blessing, he has to respond to this as a threat and probably will respond with force.  Putin can't accuse somebody of inciting Civil War and then let them off, or everybody will be gunning for Putin.