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Is the Story of Noah the worst teaching in the Bible?


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11 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

Try loving GOD with all of your heart, soul, and might..

And you shall find nothing lacking.

He doesn’t lack anything, now:P CH have you ever considered you might be gullible? 

 

And, your circumstances are not everyone else’s. Most of the posters on here have everything they want and have decided they need it has nada to do with anything but their own efforts. You seem to struggle understanding this. No one needs god constructs, they might want one but it isn’t mandatory. 

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1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said:

Then try it..

Half of nothing is still nothing. 
 

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Just now, cormac mac airt said:

The only thing he has is a narcissist need for attention, made obvious with every post of his. 
 

cormac

A need to seek the truth/Truth, is all I really care about.

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1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said:

Prove I said this, or apologise.

No and you're displaying the very thing I wrote about earlier. Being demanding. No humility, no compassion, no kindness, just ego. Ego, ego, ego, it's all your ego. 

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Just now, cormac mac airt said:

Half of nothing is still nothing. 
 

cormac

You really think that love is nothing..?

That explains a lot actually.

Yes...:yes:

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1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

No and you're displaying the very thing I wrote about earlier. Being demanding. No humility, no compassion, no kindness, just ego. Ego, ego, ego, it's all your ego. 

Since when has standing-up for love, compassion, kindness and service, been all about ego?

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1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said:

I said whether He was, (or wasn't) is besides the point..

It’s not beside the point, it IS the point. As a Jew Jesus’ God was Yahweh. All he managed to do was put a new spin on Him and got nailed to the Cross for doing so. 
 

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3 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

The only thing he has is a narcissist need for attention, made obvious with every post of his. 
 

All so familiar. Been quite a few religious type like that over the years. I mean think they are the center of the universe and gods special kid. It really is egotistical. 

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3 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

He doesn’t lack anything, now:P CH have you ever considered you might be gullible? 

Are you talking in relative terms, or in an Ultimate sense?

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1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said:

It’s not beside the point, it IS the point. As a Jew Jesus’ God was Yahweh. All he managed to do was put a new spin on Him and got nailed to the Cross for doing so. 
 

cormac

And that's because the "new spin" was love, instead of hate.

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2 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

You really think that love is nothing..?

That explains a lot actually.

Yes...:yes:

Love is not the entirety of human existence nor should it be. It amounts to stagnation. 
 

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Just now, Crazy Horse said:

Since when has standing-up for love, compassion, kindness and service, been all about ego?

You do not stand up for those things. You're acting the opposite of them. What is ego is how you spin this story of deep knowledge of god and jesus while actually having no clue about either. 

What I've noticed is you pick and pick at people. Typically myself and HammerClaw. When either one of us picks at your self-image, you get hostile. That shows me that you have very little inner strength. You're weak. 

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1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said:

Love is not the entirety of human existence nor should it be. It amounts to stagnation. 
 

cormac

Love is the ultimate source of creativity..

Hardly stagnation.

Hate on the other hand..

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1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said:

And that's because the "new spin" was love, instead of hate.

The new spin was far more than that: 

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John 14:6

King James Version

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

Try again! 
 

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7 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

Are you talking in relative terms, or in an Ultimate sense?

Literally, gullible. An enlightened dude such as yourself should be able to figure out anything. For me, observing you over the years so far you are not getting anywhere. 
 

Why aren’t you? Have you asked yourself this? 

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7 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

All so familiar. Been quite a few religious type like that over the years. I mean think they are the center of the universe and gods special kid. It really is egotistical. 

I think it has more to do with an inferiority complex and needing attention than actually thinking they are special.  They want to be "God's" special one and that is what they are aiming for but it is too high a goal and they can't get that no one can actually reach that goal.

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1 minute ago, Desertrat56 said:

I think it has more to do with an inferiority complex and needing attention than actually thinking they are special.  They want to be "God's" special one and that is what they are aiming for but it is too high a goal and they can't get that no one can actually reach that goal.

Could be. It's probably a mixed bag of things. 

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9 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

Literally, gullible. An enlightened dude such as yourself should be able to figure out anything. For me, observing you over the years so far you are not getting anywhere. 
 

Why aren’t you? Have you asked yourself this? 

I’m thinking it’s not the “getting anywhere” he’s interested in but merely the attention seeking he craves, almost pathologically. It’ll be his downfall. 
 

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12 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

I’m thinking it’s not the “getting anywhere” he’s interested in but merely the attention seeking he craves, almost pathologically. It’ll be his downfall. 
 

cormac

I think desert brings in a good point low self esteem tends to stir up negative attention because at some level the person feels unworthy of anything else, in a weird way it validates their negative beliefs about themselves. My sister is like this, she has no other way to express her pain than by triggering others this way she can express her unresolved issues. Like a pressure cooker needing to let off steam.

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1 minute ago, Sherapy said:

I think desert brings in a good point low self esteem tends to stir up negative attention because at some level the person feels unworthy of anything else, in a weird way it validates their negative beliefs about themselves. My sister is like this, she has no other way to express her pain than trigger others this way she can express her unresolved issues. 

If that’s the case his way won’t help him in the long run. It can and likely will only make things worse. 
 

He kind of reminds me of my mother’s current mentality, that being: “I’m used to getting what I want, when I want, why I want, where I want and how I want it and if I don’t get my way NONE OF YOU are going to be happy.” At least her defense is she’s starting to show signs of dementia. 
 

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1 hour ago, Crazy Horse said:

Since when has standing-up for love, compassion, kindness and service, been all about ego?

Joel Osteen’s church says it never closed its doors

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1 hour ago, cormac mac airt said:

If that’s the case his way won’t help him in the long run. It can and likely will only make things worse. 
 

He kind of reminds me of my mother’s current mentality, that being: “I’m used to getting what I want, when I want, why I want, where I want and how I want it and if I don’t get my way NONE OF YOU are going to be happy.” At least her defense is she’s starting to show signs of dementia. 
 

cormac

Indeed, sometimes an individual with low self esteem can engage in defense mechanisms such as compensatory behavior, a pattern of actions or behaviors to make up for a lack of in some area, things like unmet needs, feelings of inadequacy, low self-esteem in order to compensate for these feelings. 
 

For ex: we have had a past poster who overemphasized their achievements and constantly bragged about themselves in essence used the online frame as a way to self validate to counteract his own insecurities, it was a pattern,  the poster would came on and trigger conflict with outrageous claims to become the center of attention to create a way to compensate for feelings of insecurity, he would then post walls of texts about how incredible he was, including that he possessed an IQ of 180, it was a pattern of behavior that went on for years. At the end of the day, It is a coping style everyone finds ways to cope even when it is maladaptive.  I always felt bad for this poster that he couldn’t confront the root causes of the low self esteem, insecurities in this case, it was really nothing more than a lack of self awareness, self reflection. 
 

‘Typically those seeking an inordinate amount of control are dealing with feelings of powerlessness in a situation as in the case of your mom, it is understandable under the circumstances. Dementia is not an easy diagnosis to accept at first. 

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19 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

Love is the ultimate source of creativity..

Hardly stagnation.

Hate on the other hand..

So can hate, depression and tough childhoods, in real time all kinds of emotions be used to inspire creative works, CH.
 

‘’For ex: Music the genres like punk, metal and grunge where the themes are dealing with with societal disillusionment, strong emotions such as depression and anger and hate have served as powerful creative catalysts. Bob Dylan dealt with depression “Blowin’ in the Wind”, Stephen King struggled with addiction, “The Shining” draws on his struggles. JK Rowling dealt with depression, Frida Kahlo channeled her suffering into her art, Eminem had an awful upbringing created an alter ego Slim Shady to cope. I would conclude the above examples took their dark emotions to achieve resilience in the face of their adversities.  

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Hate can be a force of destruction and creation. Self hate directed at disgust in regards to oneself can fuel improvement or destruction. Emotions are strange things. It all depends on how they are utilized. 

Love can bring comfort or obsession. You cannot experience happiness without sadness. 

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