Expansion of the universe may be an illusion, new study claims

[UM-Bot]

Scientists have long believed that the universe is expanding, but what if it wasn't ?

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/368028/expansion-of-the-universe-may-be-an-illusion-new-study-claims

[Abramelin]

The universe is expanding, the universe is shrinking, the universe is one of many, the universe is inside a black hole, the universe is an illusion, the universe is...

< sigh >

[lightly]

4 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

The universe is expanding, the universe is shrinking, the universe is one of many, the universe is inside a black hole, the universe is an illusion, the universe is...

< sigh >

  

[lightly]

I dunno. .   Here is another idea.   https://medium.com/the-circular-theory/time-and-space-are-line-and-circle-8f6709af9fa4#:~:text=This means time and space,time) is a circle).

[fred_mc]

I like new theories that change everything we think we know, they are exciting I think :-) .

[Cho Jinn]

But how do I make millions pilfering government coffers to explore said unproveable phenomena?  

[Abramelin]

2 hours ago, fred_mc said:

I like new theories that change everything we think we know, they are exciting I think :-) .

I think these new theories are starting to resemble fairy tales.

Those scientists just publish a socalled 'educated guess', but in reality they have NO FKG CLUE.

[Electric Scooter]

5 hours ago, UM-Bot said:

Scientists have long believed that the universe is expanding, but what if it wasn't ?

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/368028/expansion-of-the-universe-may-be-an-illusion-new-study-claims

I have devised a simple experiment to prove the existence of at least one extra space dimension and show the universe isn`t expanding.

We need a 10km long piece of string, and there are two catches. The first is we need to lay it out perfectly straight, and the second is it needs a nanometre accuracy as regards its width all along its length. 

From one end we are going to use a very powerful telescope with very accurate size markings to gaze at the far end of the string and check its still the same diameter. Easy.

[trevor borocz johnson]

They should call it the Big makin' more room in da Unie. perchance.

Edited June 25 by trevor borocz johnson

[trevor borocz johnson]

sci fi thought but when something expands there is usually some pressure from within that pushes out? or are the stars and the galaxies pushing out? I'm not a big fan of how they observe things and make up a whim like the big bang. Can't teach an old dog new tricks I guess.

[+and-then]

5 hours ago, Abramelin said:

The universe is expanding, the universe is shrinking, the universe is one of many, the universe is inside a black hole, the universe is an illusion, the universe is...

< sigh >

I like to think of it as another one of those current mysteries that will make perfect sense when we "wake from the dream"  

[+and-then]

1 hour ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

sci fi thought but when something expands there is usually some pressure from within that pushes out? or are the stars and the galaxies pushing out? I'm not a big fan of how they observe things and make up a whim like the big bang. Can't teach an old dog new tricks I guess.

I don't understand much of it but I thought (always dangerous for me) that was the role dark energy played.

[trevor borocz johnson]

2 hours ago, and-then said:

I don't understand much of it but I thought (always dangerous for me) that was the role dark energy played.

I learned that when you tunr on a T.V. and watch the white noise that you can detect evidence for the BIg Bang?!? It infuriates me to hear about the big bang anymore, the scientists who ride on it are offensive. I feel a lot of wrath about it.

[Berwen]

Wouldn't it be great if this theory is correct. It would probably mean that the universe will regenerate itself and not end up as a black nothing.  

[Buzz_Light_Year]

Why is the Sky Dark at Night

Basic premise is that in a stable non-expanding universe a dark sky isn't possible.

I ran across this website about 20 years ago as I had downloaded his HTML editor Archnophilia.

Author is Paul Lutus https://arachnoid.com/administration/index.html

https://arachnoid.com/sky/index.html

But I wonder if Black Holes can act as energy sinks that prevent a non-expanding universe from reaching equilibrium.

There are several pages to this and navigation is by small purple arrows at the bottom of the page.

Edited June 26 by Buzz_Light_Year

[Abramelin]

14 hours ago, trevor borocz johnson said:

I learned that when you tunr on a T.V. and watch the white noise that you can detect evidence for the BIg Bang?!? It infuriates me to hear about the big bang anymore, the scientists who ride on it are offensive. I feel a lot of wrath about it.

I once read a joke about it, and it went something like this:

A feminist and a male astrophysicist had a chat.

She said, "O, how typically male chauvenistic to call the start of the universe the "Big Bang"!

"What else? You think it started with a headache?", the astrophysicist replied.

[lightly]

I dunno if ‘they’ are certain if our universe is finite  or  infinite?    If ours is finite ,there Is a limited amount of universe in it, which might re-cycle? .. expand ,and contract, over and over?      And,,,there might be an Infinite? number of such closed systems within a Multi- Verse..which also recreates in the process.     That idea would allow for beginnings and ends of local finite universes ..with nothing actually Lost in the infinite Multiverse.     ??    Nature likes Circles. ..maybe any sort of warp is eventually a circle?       I ran across an idea about mirror universes…which operate exactly the same, only opposite, and are dependent on each other in a constant process of Re- Creation. (just an idea I saw) ….  (also adjoining Animate & Inanimate halves of A Universe…once again, interdependent.)     [ see disclaimer below ]        ???

Edited June 26 by lightly

[trevor borocz johnson]

If the universe is an atom, and we orbit the nucleus, and that atom belongs to a grander universe that has a nucleus, and that nucleus belongs to a bigger universe, then you have the same laws of nature functioning at precise ratio's to change in density/background temp of the universe for infinity.