UM-Bot Posted July 18 #1 Share Posted July 18 The House Oversight Committee is reportedly planning to meet up to discuss the topic of UFOs next week. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/368544/legislators-to-discuss-the-ufo-phenomenon-at-meeting-on-july-26th 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted July 18 #2 Share Posted July 18 Discuss the border. Let the postulating continue ad opprobrium online. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 20 #3 Share Posted July 20 There is some merit to the topic as it applies to specific cases and how they impact aircraft safety or national security. The categories outlined in the ODNI assessment warrants further discussions on investigations, monitoring and research. With that being said, I am not saying these are aliens whizzing about just to be clear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 20 #4 Share Posted July 20 Now that it's been proved that around 30% of American voters will believe anything a politician says, they're saying anything that will get them in the news. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted July 20 #5 Share Posted July 20 1 hour ago, astrobeing said: Now that it's been proved that around 30% of American voters will believe anything a politician says, they're saying anything that will get them in the news. The number of people disagreeing with you is decreasing at a slower rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted July 23 #6 Share Posted July 23 It appears that some gov agencies have some kind of limited autonomy and they don't want to give it up. It already sounds like a waste of time. But I do look forward to it. Maybe the committee can shake them down. And why the oversight committee...? I would think the House Intelligence Committee would be a better fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted July 23 #7 Share Posted July 23 (edited) yes yes there are things up in the sky that present a risk to aviation, a real threat to safety. This is something that needs serious attention but I'm sure they're referring to drones that these days are highly sophisticated the general public can buy, the bigger thicker skinned fun balloons that are on the market & maybe even foreign tech...... I'm quite sure they are not thinking aliens, though the ufo freaks will see it as this & act accordingly, as always Edited July 23 by Dejarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted July 23 #8 Share Posted July 23 4 hours ago, Dejarma said: yes yes there are things up in the sky that present a risk to aviation, a real threat to safety. This is something that needs serious attention but I'm sure they're referring to drones that these days are highly sophisticated the general public can buy, the bigger thicker skinned fun balloons that are on the market & maybe even foreign tech...... I'm quite sure they are not thinking aliens, though the ufo freaks will see it as this & act accordingly, as always Just to let you know that drones are not known to conduct right-angled maneuvers beyond the speed of sound and not create sonic booms. BIG difference between man-made drones and extraterrestrial craft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 23 #9 Share Posted July 23 Hopefully these hearings can start to end this chapter of modern society believing in this childish nonsense of alien visitation. 3 more days. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted July 23 #10 Share Posted July 23 2 hours ago, Trelane said: Hopefully these hearings can start to end this chapter of modern society believing in this childish nonsense of alien visitation. 3 more days. The reality of UFOs has been revealed for decades and let's not forget an encounter that was revealed at the Air Force Academy. U. S. Air Force Jets Encountered a Flying Saucer "About ten o'clock one morning, a radar site near a fighter base picked up a UFO doing 700 mph. The UFO then slowed to 100 mph, and two F-86's were scrambled to intercept. Eventually one F-86 closed on the UFO at about 3,000 feet altitude. The UFO began to accelerate away but the pilot still managed to get within 500 yards of the target for a short period of time. It was definitely saucer shaped. As the pilot pushed the F-86 at top speed, the UFO began to pull away. When the range reached 1,000 yards, the pilot armed his guns and fired in an attempt to down the saucer. He failed, and the UFO pulled away rapidly, vanishing in the distance." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 23 #11 Share Posted July 23 The question at hand is, have these legislators been given appropriate clearance to view classified materials? Some items are very likely special projects that they would need to be debriefed on and likely sign a NDA for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted July 23 #12 Share Posted July 23 11 minutes ago, Trelane said: The question at hand is, have these legislators been given appropriate clearance to view classified materials? Some items are very likely special projects that they would need to be debriefed on and likely sign a NDA for. Considering the some have revealed they reviewed classified documentation and videos, you would think they had clearances to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 23 #13 Share Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: Considering the some have revealed they reviewed classified documentation and videos, you would think they had clearances to do so. Talk is cheap and worth exactly NOTHING when it comes to their extraordinary claims. Most of us are going to need more than just someone saying something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted July 23 #14 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Talk is cheap and worth exactly NOTHING when it comes to their extraordinary claims. Most of us are going to need more than just someone saying something. You are correct and there are tons of data, videos, photos and documentation that have been released and can be reviewed. Edited July 23 by skyeagle409 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 23 #15 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 51 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: You are correct and there are tons of data, videos, photos and documentation that have been released and can be reviewed. I thought you said that the Pentagon was trying to cover it up??? Anyway... As I (and many others) have been trying to explain to you for many years now... your "evidence" is not what I am looking for. Its going to take more than stories, blurry pic, failing tech and weird radar returns for me to claim that ET has found our planet and are here buzzing the locals. Edited July 23 by Hazzard 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted July 24 #16 Share Posted July 24 11 hours ago, Hazzard said: I thought you said that the Pentagon was trying to cover it up??? Anyway... As I (and many others) have been trying to explain to you for many years now... your "evidence" is not what I am looking for. Its going to take more than stories, blurry pic, failing tech and weird radar returns for me to claim that ET has found our planet and are here buzzing the locals. The Pentagon continues its coverup as we speak. Look what happened recently in Florida. Lawmakers claim UFO 'cover-ups' from Pentagon, military as witnesses head to Congress Lawmakers said they had "an argument" with a commanding officer at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida as they pushed for answers about UFOs. Reps. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., and Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla, said their efforts to disclose records about UFOs, or what the government calls unidentified anomalous phenomenon (UAP), have been met with resistance from the Pentagon and intelligence community. Burchett and Luna described tense moments as they tried to get information from the military about UFOs, and they said the Pentagon and Air Force tried to impede their push for records. "The status quo on the part of the U.S. government has been to leave the American people in the dark regarding information of UAPs," Luna said. "They refused to answer questions posed by whistleblowers, avoiding the concerns of Americans and acknowledging that the possible threat UAPs poses to our national security as well as public safety is extremely unnecessary." Lawmakers claim UFO 'cover-ups' from Pentagon, military as witnesses head to Congress | Fox News I have to add that blurry photo argument is rather weak because the images are clear enough to see that the objects are not B-747's, or any aircraft of mankind for that matter and taking into consideration that today's fighter jets are multi-sensor equipped with optical and infrared sensors that coordinate with one another to confirm what the radar is tracking. I might also add that the crystal-clear images of the UFOs that aircrews and sailors aboard the ships had witnessed were not released to the public and those crystal-clear images from the videos remain classified to this very day. Case in point: Five US sailors speak out 15 years after the USS Nimitz UFO encounters and say videos of mysterious flying 'Tic Tac' objects were turned over to 'unknown officials' and evidence was destroyed The sailors say they too were witness to when Navy fighter jets were harassed and outperformed by the UFOs off the South California coast After the data tapes were confiscated by the mysterious individuals, ship recorders also were wiped clean, say the new witnesses Turner, however, says he saw videos of the objects doing their impossible maneuvers that were not part of Underwood's footage. 'This thing was going berserk, like making turns. It's incredible the amount of g forces that it would put on a human. It made a maneuver, like they were chasing it straight on, it was going with them, then this thing stopped turning, just gone. In an instant', he recalls. 'The video you see now, that's just a small snippet in the beginning of the whole video. But this thing, it was so much more than what you see in this video'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 24 #17 Share Posted July 24 Skyeagle's proof: some guy wearing a baseball cap. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieChecker Posted July 25 #18 Share Posted July 25 My father-in-law thinks this coming House committee meeting might be the day everything changes. The day of DISCLOSURE, where aliens are proven to exist. Myself, I think they might expose secret technology. But I've yet to see anything that just has to be from aliens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted July 25 #19 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 15 hours ago, astrobeing said: Skyeagle's proof: some guy wearing a baseball cap. Perhaps, you should do your homework in order to understand their positions are much more credible than laughable positions of UFO debunkers who amusingly embraced all three (3) of the Air Force's debunked Roswell cover stories without question. Edited July 25 by skyeagle409 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 25 #20 Share Posted July 25 I find it absolutely hilarious that the people who dismiss the Air Force Roswell reports are the same people who cherry pick other pieces of documentation released by the Air Force as proof. Can't have it both ways folks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted July 25 #21 Share Posted July 25 Former Secretary of Defense for Intelligence says the US has recovered technology that 'did not originate on this earth' I'm sure this is posted somewhere in this section of the site already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted July 25 #22 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Zebra3 said: Former Secretary of Defense for Intelligence says the US has recovered technology that 'did not originate on this earth' I'm sure this is posted somewhere in this section of the site already. Oh it's been posted, no worries. The ETH believers are clinging to this misquote like the holy grail. It is deceptive as this quote isn't exactly accurate, as he actually stated was that, 'I've been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this Earth, by officials in the Department of Defense and by former intelligence officials'. Told by who? So who are these DoD officials? What are their names? Nobody has invoked anonymity as a provision of the Whistleblower Act, so what gives with the mysterious unnamed "officials"? Why be so vague in revealing this information when he was so cavalier in releasing classified footage. This is going to be very entertaining though. I might try to get over there tomorrow to listen in. Interesting to note this guy openly admitted to illegally releasing classified videos and nobody bats an eye. Very interesting indeed. Edited July 25 by Trelane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted July 25 #23 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 8 hours ago, Trelane said: I find it absolutely hilarious that the people who dismiss the Air Force Roswell reports are the same people who cherry pick other pieces of documentation released by the Air Force as proof. Can't have it both ways folks. As I have mentioned before, I know when to" hold 'em and when the throw 'em." In other words, I know what to cherry pick. Edited July 25 by skyeagle409 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esoteric_toad Posted July 25 #24 Share Posted July 25 Breaking out my Nostadamus hat. Net knowledge gained after 'meeting' = no REAL evidence. Sorry, not feeling very quatrainy today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted July 25 #25 Share Posted July 25 Just nitpicking but from the OP: "Of particular interest will be the testimonies of US Navy aviators Ryan Graves and David Fravor who have both encountered unidentified objects over US airspace." Not true. Fravor, a USS Nimitz jet pilot, saw his tictac UFO over the Pacific, west of Mexico. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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