Nicolette Posted August 27, 2023 #26 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, dragon1440 said: So theres a difference between this time and other times. they have found there is an underwater cave system as well as flooded caves along the shoreline. That new information is very valuable in finding the truth. That does make all the difference in the boat line incident. I just read about how the extensive cave system was also folklore for centuries and was just uncovered. Don't tell me that a cave system described as an abyss connecting underwater caves to above ground ones on the shore to holes in the riverbottom was dubbed a myth and was just now located in the same breath you say every inch of the lake has already been extensively searched. Its a pretty huge detail to have missed and been discounted despite the witnesses. It's pretty obvious why an animal which would be well aware of a line of boats emitting sonar crossing the surface would have been shy. Im not saying that I think there is a plesiasaurus in there, but you would be foolish to pretend you know what is there. The wording on the report of the dna results is key. I see that dna was compared to global databases and of the leading theories (plesiosaur, shark, catfish, eel and sturgeon) only eels are present in the lake. They specifically looked for the suspected culprits to match samples and only eels. This doesn't in any way rule out a unique unknown species. People are really very arrogant, we pretend to know everything that is and somehow still discover new species every year. Some that were previously only myth. The thing about this particular habitat is that aquifers and deep underground cave systems are probably the least known environment to us for obvious reasons. Eels are known to enter from the ocean and live in a poorly understood system that we have not explored. It is well known that there are strange species in there completely unknown to science due to our lack of contact with it. You don't make discoveries or solve mysteries by making assumptions, you do it by investigating again and again. A horde of giant eels could be the culprit here, but the large amount of thier dna also points out the fact that the lake is clearly connected to a cave network connected to aquifers large enough to house abnormally large eels, which often come from the ocean. If they are just now putting 2 and 2 together to believe the "myths" and realize this massive network is there, then it has not been determined what could emerge from the river, ocean, or underground networks. They clearly stated that they had checked the dna databases for the expected species and saved the samples for future reference, and that nothing related to plesiosaurus was found. But we havent even witnessed all of the ocean species that could have visited yet, let alone catalogued all thier dna. Aquifers have actually been dubbed by scientists as "a goldmine of undiscovered species". So I am sure the usual people think they are certain there is nothing to find as it wasnt suggested to them by the proper authority, but anyone that can think for themself knows that there is a lot we don't know about what is down there. Edited August 27, 2023 by Nicolette 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolette Posted August 27, 2023 #27 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) On 8/3/2023 at 7:39 PM, Earl.Of.Trumps said: yup, you are right. ----------------------- Yes, the eDNA test result of Loch Ness is a scientific investigation into the environmental DNA present in the lake. The test was conducted by Professor Neil Gemmell from the University of Otago, who collected 250 samples of water from different locations and depths around Loch Ness. The test revealed the DNA of various animals, such as minnows, amphibians, humans and dogs, but no evidence of any large unknown creature1. Its hard to believe from my post and yours that we were reading the same. Exact. Article. First of all, here is a quote from it "We can't find any evidence of a creature that's remotely related to that in our environmental-DNA sequence data. So, sorry, I don’t think the plesiosaur idea holds up based on the data that we have obtained,” Professor Gemmell says. The research team tested other predominant theories of various giant fish; whether it be a giant catfish or a giant sturgeon, an eel, or even a shark such as a Greenland shark. “So there’s no shark DNA in Loch Ness based on our sampling. There is also no catfish DNA in Loch Ness based on our sampling. We can't find any evidence of sturgeon either,” And it goes on to mention that results were compared against data sets for other known species. Not one time did they ever claim to be able to determine that there are no large species unknown to science, only that they did not find a match for any known species in thier database that could get that large. This evidence actually doesnt support you claim it refutes it. This means the largest thing they found that they recognised were cows and eels. The researchers best guess was mutated eels. They didn't ever claim the technology could sequence unknowns, only make matches in the database to show which known species are present and that the only theorized culprit even present was eels, a lot of them. Doesn't in any way rule out an unknown species. Which is generally the type that cause enduring often resurfacing legends with the inability to be identified by anybody... that or the myth itself. Maybe its a unique type of huge eel lurking here that likes to rear out of the water for some reason. Im not silly enough to pretend i know the answer but i do know you did not search the cave system thoroughly if you couldnt even search that article thoroughly. Edited August 27, 2023 by Nicolette 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted August 27, 2023 #28 Share Posted August 27, 2023 A volunteer who is taking part in the largest hunt for the Loch Ness Monster in 50 years has revealed there were 'sightings' on Saturday (26 August). As part of the search mission, a group of volunteers have been using special equipment that has never been used on the loch before to find Nessie. Drones are also in-use, producing thermal imaging of the infamous waters in the hope of identifying any strange anomalies lurking in the deep. Adding to that, the volunteer said: "There were some reports from people that were watching on webcams and doing the surface watch, so we are just collecting all that evidence." https://www.ladbible.com/news/uk-news/volunteer-loch-ness-hunt-sightings-yesterday-390746-20230827 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portre Posted August 28, 2023 #29 Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 12:25 PM, Splendor Solis said: Didn't they already test the Loch, looking for any unknown DNA and discover nothing unusual, thus proving there is no Only proves how sneaky Nessie is. She's evaded searchers for hundreds of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portre Posted August 28, 2023 #30 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I have surreptitiously obtained a recording of the sounds: "b***** off!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolette Posted August 29, 2023 #31 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) Even though that sneaky nessy unplugged the recorder, heres a witness testimony of what it said. Edited August 29, 2023 by Nicolette 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 29, 2023 #32 Share Posted August 29, 2023 From the OP: ...but then realized that their recording equipment wasn't plugged in. That's all I had to see. Ciao! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted August 30, 2023 #33 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Well, the study was done a few days ago. Has anyone heard about the results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted August 30, 2023 #34 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) Looks like most of them had a good time anyway. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/08/29/loch-ness-monster-photos-search-nessie/70707904007/ Quote Loch Ness Monster hunt in photos: See Scotland's biggest search for Nessie in 50 years I'd guess there won't be "results" for over a week. Depending on what was collected... Going over thousands of photos, and written reports, could take several days. Edited August 30, 2023 by DieChecker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted August 31, 2023 #35 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) Researchers have claimed to have captured the “first ever video” of the Loch Ness Monster, seemingly shows a large animal relaxing on the bank. The bizarre sighting was made at night using heat sensing drone technology as part of the recent mass hunt for the creature in Scotland - the biggest in half a century. Loch Ness Monster seen in 'first ever video' after thermal imaging drone spotted 'mass' - Mirror Online Edited August 31, 2023 by pellinore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted August 31, 2023 #36 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, pellinore said: Researchers have claimed to have captured the “first ever video” of the Loch Ness Monster, seemingly shows a large animal relaxing on the bank. The bizarre sighting was made at night using heat sensing drone technology as part of the recent mass hunt for the creature in Scotland - the biggest in half a century. Loch Ness Monster seen in 'first ever video' after thermal imaging drone spotted 'mass' - Mirror Online They have found proof of deer grazing on the shore (Or possibly some campers) Edited August 31, 2023 by Essan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteryMike Posted August 31, 2023 #37 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, pellinore said: Researchers have claimed to have captured the “first ever video” of the Loch Ness Monster, seemingly shows a large animal relaxing on the bank. The bizarre sighting was made at night using heat sensing drone technology as part of the recent mass hunt for the creature in Scotland - the biggest in half a century. Loch Ness Monster seen in 'first ever video' after thermal imaging drone spotted 'mass' - Mirror Online Bruh...That could've just been a deer... My god, these people are so desperate... Edited August 31, 2023 by MysteryMike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 1, 2023 #38 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Loch Ness Monster may be a giant eel, say scientists https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-49495145 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted September 1, 2023 #39 Share Posted September 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Loch Ness Monster may be a giant eel, say scientists https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-49495145 There are giant eels throughout New Zealand yet no one has ever claimed to have seen a Nessie type creature in them. But at least we’re in the realm of real world explanations now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted September 2, 2023 #40 Share Posted September 2, 2023 On 8/4/2023 at 11:03 AM, MysteryMike said: People needs to accept Nessie is just a tourist attraction and folklore. Nothing more. We can find whales in the ocean but we can't find a large creature in a lake??? There is every likelihood that Nessie doesn't live in the Loch, but only visits. During the 19th Century there was a publication that dealt with eels of prodigious size travelling across the UK by land being routinely discovered by sports fishermen. One wonders if this was perhaps the origin of medieval myths about wyrms and dragons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roshman Posted September 2, 2023 #41 Share Posted September 2, 2023 "Sadly, though, they were unable to actually record the sounds." Gloops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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