pellinore Posted August 5, 2023 #1 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) Mr Knapp claims to have spoken with a Russian official called Boris Sokolov, who says there have been at least 45 incidents in which fighter jets had a run-in with an unidentified flying object. But the incident which caused the most concern happened at an Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) silo in Ukraine, in which a UFO "somehow took control of the launch system", says Mr Sokolov. Describing the events in incredible detail, Mr Knapp said the UFO appeared over the base before performing aerial maneuvers which far exceed anything human-built aircraft can do, leaving eyewitnesses stunned. UFOs 'took control of Russian nukes' and 'entered launch codes' nearly triggering WWIII (msn.com) Edited August 5, 2023 by pellinore 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 5, 2023 #2 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, pellinore said: Mr Knapp claims to have spoken with a Russian official called Boris Sokolov, who says there have been at least 45 incidents in which fighter jets had a run-in with an unidentified flying object. But the incident which caused the most concern happened at an Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) silo in Ukraine, in which a UFO "somehow took control of the launch system", says Mr Sokolov. Describing the events in incredible detail, Mr Knapp said the UFO appeared over the base before performing aerial maneuvers which far exceed anything human-built aircraft can do, leaving eyewitnesses stunned. UFOs 'took control of Russian nukes' and 'entered launch codes' nearly triggering WWIII (msn.com) This sounds like intentional misinformation / disinformation these days so much of this information is being released it's important too not take seriously!!! I suppose the real question is what they are after, I think once this question is answered things will go back in time to the point where everything began over the last 5 years!!!!!!! Peace JIMHO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 5, 2023 #3 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Oh gawd! This firkin bedtime story again.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 5, 2023 #4 Share Posted August 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Piney said: Oh gawd! This firkin bedtime story again.... Tonight, kids we are going to teach you about Alien Probing’ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 5, 2023 #5 Share Posted August 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Tonight, kids we are going to teach you about Alien Probing’ That's @acutes job. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 5, 2023 #6 Share Posted August 5, 2023 "UFOs 'took control of Russian nukes' and 'entered launch codes' " *sighs* .....well of course they did. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 6, 2023 #7 Share Posted August 6, 2023 22 hours ago, Piney said: That's @acutes job. The poor little fellow, but the good of the many always super-cedes the needs of the one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted August 7, 2023 #8 Share Posted August 7, 2023 On 8/5/2023 at 4:47 AM, Trelane said: "UFOs 'took control of Russian nukes' and 'entered launch codes' " *sighs* .....well of course they did. We can take a look here in case you missed it. Recent Russian Newspaper Article Discusses UFO Incidents at Soviet and American Nuclear Weapons Sites UFO HACKED NUCLEAR CODES The Report In his official statement on the incident, Major Michael Katzman, who was responsible for the missiles' guidance systems, reported that the computer equipment and security systems had been disabled by a powerful [electromagnetic] pulse. He wrote that all of the control panels had lit up, indicating the missiles were preparing to launch toward their strategic targets. Former TsSBUiS [missile division] Chief Yuri Zolotukhin told a Life journalist, "I too was a witness to these events and also saw the UFO but could not reveal what had happened to the sensitive equipment because I signed a non-disclosure document [designed to] protect state secrets." These events happened in the underground bunker where the missile control panels display the missiles' readiness status. [During the incident] the panels lit up, indicating that the missiles had gone to full combat readiness and were preparing to launch. USA A U.S. Air Force base in Minot, North Dakota, once experienced a similar incident, this Life journalist was told by American UFO investigator, 60-year-old Robert Hastings. He is the author of research on UFO activity at strategic nuclear facilities. Hastings personally spoke with a [former] Intercontinental Ballistic Missile commander, [then] Lieutenant David Schuur. "Schuur told me that in 1966 he was involved in an event in which an Unidentified Flying Object repeatedly activated [the launch sequence in his] missiles," says the ufologist. "Schuur told me that his missile guards had informed him that a big, bright object was [moving from missile to missile]. When the UFO [hovered over] a [given] missile, his control panel indicated that it was preparing to launch. This meant that somehow it had received a launch authorization. Every time that happened, Schuur had to manually enter a launch 'Inhibit' command. The UFO seemed to be scanning the missiles [because various other functions were temporarily activated as well]. The next day, Schuur's commanders said that there was nothing to discuss." According to the ABC-TV News Prime Time Live segment "KGB UFO Files," which was broadcast on October 6, 1994, "for 15 agonizing seconds, the base lost control of its nuclear weapons; what happened here on this day has never been explained." ABC also interviewed two witnesses to the 1982 sighting: a civilian from Byelokovoriche and Lt. Col. Vladimir Platunov. Lt. Col. Platunov described the object as "… just like a flying saucer, the way they show them in the movies, no portholes, no nothing. The surface was absolutely even, the disc made a beautiful turn…on the edge, just like a plane. It [made] no sound. I had never seen anything like that before." http://www.openminds.tv/soviet-nukes-and-ufos 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 7, 2023 #9 Share Posted August 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: The surface was absolutely even, the disc made a beautiful turn…on the edge, just like a plane. It [made] no sound. I had never seen anything like that before." Never heard of that in a UFO - on edge like a plane. Does that ruin his credibility? (I think so) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted August 7, 2023 #10 Share Posted August 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Never heard of that in a UFO - on edge like a plane. Does that ruin his credibility? (I think so) Here's are reports that might be of interest about flipping UFOs. July 1952 - Washington, D.C., Area Radar-Visual Sightings and Related Events Codes: AFOSI - Air Force Office of Special Investigations report, from Project Blue Book files, National Archives microfilm collection. AF Int - Air Force Intelligence Report, most obtained by Citizens Against UFO Secrecy via the Freedom of Information Act, declassified Jan. 1985. UFOE - The UFO Evidence, National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena, Washington, D.C., May 1964. (NICAP) CAA - Civil Aeronautics Administration (later FAA, Federal Aviation Admin.) ARTC - Air Route Traffic Control radar center approach-control radar, CAA. July 14: 2012 EDT. Newport News, Va. Southbound Pan American Airways plane at 8,000 ft. nearing the Norfolk, Va, area observed six glowing red, circular objects approaching below the airliner; objects flipped up on edge in unison and then sped from behind and under the airliner and joined the in-line formation, which "climbed in a graceful arc above the altitude of the airliner." "Then the lights blinked out one by one, though not in sequence." Next day the crew was thoroughly interrogated by AFOSI and advised that they already had seven other reports of red discs moving at high speed and making sharp turns. (UFOE, p. 38-39.) PROJECT 1947 - July 1952 Washington D.C. UFO Sightings 1947: Year of the Flying Saucer The objects periodically flipped, banked, and weaved side-to-side, “like the tail of a Chinese kite.” 1947: Year of the Flying Saucer | National Air and Space Museum (si.edu) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted August 11, 2023 #11 Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 8/6/2023 at 7:05 PM, skyeagle409 said: A U.S. Air Force base in Minot, North Dakota, once experienced a similar incident, this Life journalist was told by American UFO investigator, 60-year-old Robert Hastings. He is the author of research on UFO activity at strategic nuclear facilities. Mr. Hastings also has no less than three books for sale so buy buy buy them now!!!!! The more books you buy, the more he'll "discover" about UFOs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted August 11, 2023 #12 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, astrobeing said: Mr. Hastings also has no less than three books for sale so buy buy buy them now!!!!! The more books you buy, the more he'll "discover" about UFOs. You can also go here. Declassified U.S. Government Documents on the UFO Nuclear Weapons Connection - DocumentCloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 11, 2023 #13 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Well now, who's surprised that a redirection links to documents from the 1940's? As soon as a claim starts with an unknown aircraft was "seen" I'm done. It could be anything, literally anything. Why? Because they can even definitively prove the item was actually observed. This what it must feel like to work as an orderly in an insane asylum. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted August 11, 2023 #14 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Trelane said: Well now, who's surprised that a redirection links to documents from the 1940's? As soon as a claim starts with an unknown aircraft was "seen" I'm done. It could be anything, literally anything. Why? Because they can even definitively prove the item was actually observed. This what it must feel like to work as an orderly in an insane asylum. That is Skyeagle in a nutshell. He has show over and over again that he compleatly lacks the abillity to see this logical fallacy, and is far from alone, UFOlogy is the mythology of the space age. Instead of angels and witches we now have extraterrestrials. And as with the first two, it doesnt matter how many believe... it still doesnt make them real. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 11, 2023 #15 Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 8/5/2023 at 9:06 AM, pellinore said: But the incident which caused the most concern happened at an Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) silo in Ukraine, in which a UFO "somehow took control of the launch system" i say BS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 12, 2023 #16 Share Posted August 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Hazzard said: And as with the first two, it doesnt matter how many believe... it still doesnt make them real. A question for you, Hazzard... Do you believe anything that the US government has said in a positive way, about UFO's? (think - Go Fast, Gimbal, FLIR etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted August 12, 2023 #17 Share Posted August 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Trelane said: Well now, who's surprised that a redirection links to documents from the 1940's? As soon as a claim starts with an unknown aircraft was "seen" I'm done. It could be anything, literally anything. Why? Because they can even definitively prove the item was actually observed. This what it must feel like to work as an orderly in an insane asylum. Well, verifiable data and documentation pretty much speaks for themselves as far as proving the UFOs in question had nothing to do with anything man-made simply because the technology and performance capabilities were far above anything known to mankind. Case in point once again, we are still using chemical rockets to access space and still haven't solved the problem of sonic boom elimination much less figured out how to conduct right-angles maneuvers at hypersonic speeds that UFOs are well known for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted August 12, 2023 #18 Share Posted August 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Dejarma said: i say BS! Well, you have to prove it, so where's you evidence? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted August 12, 2023 #19 Share Posted August 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Hazzard said: That is Skyeagle in a nutshell. He has show over and over again that he compleatly lacks the abillity to see this logical fallacy, and is far from alone, UFOlogy is the mythology of the space age. Instead of angels and witches we now have extraterrestrials. And as with the first two, it doesnt matter how many believe... it still doesnt make them real. Considering that you have yet to provide the man-made evidence that refutes my extraterrestrial evidence, what more can I say?! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted August 12, 2023 #20 Share Posted August 12, 2023 13 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: A question for you, Hazzard... Do you believe anything that the US government has said in a positive way, about UFO's? (think - Go Fast, Gimbal, FLIR etc) Sure. I believe that they have no idea what some of these UFOs are. I also believe that further investigation is absolutely necessary. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted August 12, 2023 #21 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, skyeagle409 said: Considering that you have yet to provide the man-made evidence that refutes my extraterrestrial evidence, what more can I say?! Sigh* Really?? ... Burden of proof, again...!! Shifting the burden of proof (a special case of argumentum ad ignorantium) is the fallacy of putting the burden of proof on the person who denies or questions the assertion being made. The source of the fallacy is the assumption that something is true unless proven otherwise. Its really not that hard to undestand! Edited August 12, 2023 by Hazzard 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted August 12, 2023 #22 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Hazzard said: Sure. I believe that they have no idea what some of these UFOs are. I also believe that further investigation is absolutely necessary. I know what they are not, and the data evidence proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the objects in question are not man-made craft. I should also add that Russian UFO encounters were also mentioned at the Air Force Academy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted August 12, 2023 #23 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hazzard said: Sigh* Really?? ... Burden of proof, again...!! Shifting the burden of proof (a special case of argumentum ad ignorantium) is the fallacy of putting the burden of proof on the person who denies or questions the assertion being made. The source of the fallacy is the assumption that something is true unless proven otherwise. Its really not that hard to undestand! I find it very interesting that debunkers deny verified and documented data and documentation relating to UFO evidence and yet, they have embraced without evidence all three of the Air Force's Roswell cover stories that have since been proven as false, one of which was debunked by the Air Force itself in its 1994 Roswell Report, which course, was the 47-year-old weather balloon cover story that debunkers had claimed was undeniable proof that the Roswell incident was caused by a weather balloon. I have been providing evidence and I have challenged those to provide man-made evidence that refutes my extraterrestrial evidence and what have I received as credible man-made evidence? Absolutely nothing! The most common non-answer I receive is that the UFOs are caused by atmospheric phenomena (AP), which doesn't fit by the very nature of the radar contacts alone, which is very obvious the radar contacts are under intelligent control as noted by the way they interact with aircraft, which is why multiple Air Force studies have concluded from behind closed doors the objects are "interplanetary spaceships' while convincing skeptics the objects are nothing more than weather balloons when those same doors are then open to the public. Question is, when are skeptics going to wake up and understand that the government has been taking them for rides for decades and made them victims of its own deformation and misinformation campaigns? Edited August 12, 2023 by skyeagle409 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 12, 2023 #24 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) I find it very interesting (but not really) that ETH believers deny science, facts, corroborated evidence and independent investigative studies that clearly show earthly explanations. *snip* Edited August 12, 2023 by Saru Don't make it personal please. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esoteric_toad Posted August 12, 2023 #25 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Trelane said: I find it very interesting (but not really) that ETH believers deny science, facts, corroborated evidence and independent investigative studies that clearly show earthly explanations. It has all the trimmings of religion. Science and investigation has no place in faith based beliefs. *I accidentally pressed the report button instead of the quote button and typed this as a reason....so much for paying attention to what I am doing 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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