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SETI's Seth Shostak condemns 'alien bodies' claim over lack of evidence


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"But where is the evidence ?" Shostak wrote.

Everyone in their right mind is asking the same question, Seth. :tu:

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Of course! If EBEs are here that would mean he has wasted at least the last 30 years of his life. Would you expect him to say anything different?
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We received the WOW signal nearly 50 years ago, Seth; wtf are you doing besides begging for money and getting upset that other conversations in your space are more interesting.

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UFO and alien believers seem to get upset whenever someone is skeptical about aliens because of lack of evidence. When did evidence become a dirty word?

...But what reason would we have for hiding evidence of alien life? Simple. Religion. The discovery of aliens could possibly put the kibosh on a belief in God, so as skeptical as I am about the existence of aliens, I really want them to exist.
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Did Seth have a career in acting. Looks like him on that 70s tv show, Emergency. But his name was Booby Troup. :rolleyes:

 

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8 hours ago, Cho Jinn said:

We received the WOW signal nearly 50 years ago, Seth; wtf are you doing besides begging for money and getting upset that other conversations in your space are more interesting.

Yes, and what has Shostak himself garnered for evidence? Not a darn thing, speaking of wasting his time.

Ever since quantum entanglement was discovered, no good scientist could imagine Aliens communicating the way earthlings do.

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1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Yes, and what has Shostak himself garnered for evidence? Not a darn thing, speaking of wasting his time.

Ever since quantum entanglement was discovered, no good scientist could imagine Aliens communicating the way earthlings do.

To think, the kWh I spent on Seti@home could have been used to mine BTC way back in the salad days 2010…

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4 hours ago, Splendor Solis said:

When did evidence become a dirty word?
 

About the time it lost most of its objective meaning, like many words in our post-modern, um, uptopia.

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12 hours ago, Hazzard said:

"But where is the evidence ?" Shostak wrote.

Everyone in their right mind is asking the same question, Seth. :tu:

Have him explained the objects in the videos the Navy pilots encountered that were also visually observed. Do you remember the description of the so-called "Tic Tac" by one of the pilots?"

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12 hours ago, UM-Bot said:

Not everyone has been impressed by claims made by David Grusch regarding recovered UFOs and 'non-human biologics'.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/369176/setis-seth-shostak-condemns-alien-bodies-claim-over-lack-of-evidence

SETI's Seth Shostak has said that neither Grusch nor anyone else claiming to have knowledge of secret government UAP programs has ever been able to publicly produce convincing photos showing alien hardware splayed across the landscape." "What is the point of hiding extraterrestrial technology in a Nevada hangar?" he wrote. Okay, but what about this object over the Nellis range in Nevada that had personnel bewildered? I have the flight data on that object as well.

 

 

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Good lord some of you just like to come in here and have a moan, don't you? Another scientist who has devoted his life and career to the search for alien life pokes holes in your fantasies and you get wrapped around the axle about it.

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17 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Good lord some of you just like to come in here and have a moan, don't you? Another scientist who has devoted his life and career to the search for alien life pokes holes in your fantasies and you get wrapped around the axle about it.

Exactly. I highly doubt these same people know anything at all about the circumstances behind the creation of SETI, it’s founders, their objectives,  research, and contributions, nor are even aware that SETI created the field of  searching for extraterrestrial life as a scientific endeavor to begin with.
 

 

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11 hours ago, Trelane said:

Good lord some of you just like to come in here and have a moan, don't you? Another scientist who has devoted his life and career to the search for alien life pokes holes in your fantasies and you get wrapped around the axle about it.

While SETI has been searching in space, satellite engineers have already revealed their satellites have been tracking UFOs arriving from deep space and within Earth's atmosphere.

 

 

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8 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

While SETI has been searching in space, satellite engineers have already revealed their satellites have been tracking UFOs arriving from deep space and within Earth's atmosphere.

 

UFOs, or Alien Spaceships - There is a difference you know?

Also, a link would be nice...  (dont bother if its from the other clowns in the UFO hall of shame.)

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9 hours ago, Hazzard said:

UFOs, or Alien Spaceships - There is a difference you know?

Also, a link would be nice...  (dont bother if its from the other clowns in the UFO hall of shame.)

UFOs were originally called, flying saucers, flying disk, triangular-shaped, cigar-shaped, interplanetary spaceships, spaceships, etc., before Capt. Edward Ruppelt, director of Project Blue Book, coined the term 'unidentified flying objects (UFO).

Edward J. Ruppelt - Wikipedia

Here is another example from Capt. Edward Ruppelt on what UFOs were called in case you missed it before.

 

Edward J. Ruppelt, former Chief of the Air Force Project Blue Book investigation, later reported that the study was "very hot and very controversial... It concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships." Air Force analysts had reached this conclusion before. Project Sign in 1948 had issued a Top Secret Estimate of the Situation drawing the same conclusion.

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2 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

UFOs were originally called, flying saucers, flying disk, triangular-shaped, cigar-shaped, interplanetary spaceships, spaceships, etc., before Capt. Edward Ruppelt, director of Project Blue Book, coined the term 'unidentified flying objects (UFO).

Edward J. Ruppelt - Wikipedia

Here is another example from Capt. Edward Ruppelt on what UFOs were called in case you missed it before.

 

Edward J. Ruppelt, former Chief of the Air Force Project Blue Book investigation, later reported that the study was "very hot and very controversial... It concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships." Air Force analysts had reached this conclusion before. Project Sign in 1948 had issued a Top Secret Estimate of the Situation drawing the same conclusion.

As old as... Noahs Ark.

Wasnt it you that claimed they found that aswell??

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6 hours ago, Hazzard said:

As old as... Noahs Ark.

Wasnt it you that claimed they found that aswell??

Yes. In reference to old, let's hear what the Air Force has said.

INTRODUCTORY SPACE SCIENCE - VOLUME II 
CHAPTER XXXIII  
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS  
DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS - USAF  
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY   

33.6 CONCLUSION  

   "From available information, the UFO phenomenon appears to have been global in nature for almost 50,000 years."   

 

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4 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Yes. In reference to old, let's hear what the Air Force has said.

INTRODUCTORY SPACE SCIENCE - VOLUME II 
CHAPTER XXXIII  
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS  
DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS - USAF  
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY   

33.6 CONCLUSION  

   "From available information, the UFO phenomenon appears to have been global in nature for almost 50,000 years."   

 

So... I could have told you that. UFOs are not a new phenomenon.

Im pretty sure that even the dinosaurs saw UFOs.

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14 hours ago, Hazzard said:

So... I could have told you that. UFOs are not a new phenomenon.

Im pretty sure that even the dinosaurs saw UFOs.

Perhaps dinosaurs did see UFOs. After all, given the age of the universe, there could very well be alien civilizations that are millions of years more advanced our civilization. 

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On 8/7/2023 at 3:15 AM, Hazzard said:

UFOs, or Alien Spaceships - There is a difference you know?

Also, a link would be nice...  (dont bother if its from the other clowns in the UFO hall of shame.)

People still like to use the term: UFO, even though objects have been visually confirmed as an intelligently controlled craft of various shapes such as the "Tic Tac" shaped craft encountered by Navy pilots. A term: 'Flying Tic Tac' does not have the same ring as flying saucer or UFO for that matter. 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Perhaps dinosaurs did see UFOs. After all, given the age of the universe, there could very well be alien civilizations that are millions of years more advanced our civilization. 

This we can agree on. :tu:

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22 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

People still like to use the term: UFO, even though objects have been visually confirmed as an intelligently controlled craft of various shapes such as the "Tic Tac" shaped craft encountered by Navy pilots. A term: 'Flying Tic Tac' does not have the same ring as flying saucer or UFO for that matter. 

 

 

 

 

I grew up with the term "flying saucer" and I still like it today. 

I remember the frisbee first coming out and were named "Pluto platters" but we kids called them flying saucers. Happy times, man

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'Non-human biologics'. Isn't that most of the biome? 

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