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William Shatner calls recent UFO revelations 'ridiculous'


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Why do these UFOs keep crashing? Boeing has a better 'record.'

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28 minutes ago, Roshman said:

Why do these UFOs keep crashing? Boeing has a better 'record.'

The Earth is just their pub stop and they can't handle Canadian whiskey. 

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It is such a shame to see a legend like him make such a stupid comment, if anyone he should be aware of the Prime Directive, one would've thought. He must be losing his mind. While the actual answer to the "why would they hide" is slightly different and a lot more complex than that, the real-world equivalent of the Prime Directive is an important pillar of visitation policy by any intelligent and advanced civilisation, keeping in mind that highly intelligent and advanced civilizations will have moved on to the stage where they enforce such policies for the protection of young and emerging species like ours.

Hasn't he seen the Star Trek episode "Who Watches the Watchers"?? Is he really not familiar with the Prime Directive? Can he not surmise how it would be enforced by civilizations millions of years ahead of the rest in every galaxy? Doesn't take too much of a leap of imagination (and common sense).

And of course this explanation does not take into account the existence of an infinite multiverse, nor does it consider seeding (and monitoring) of planets, let alone the nature of consciousness as a fundamental feature of our universe. Like I say, the answer is more complex than just "Prime Directive". But that's a no-brainer, what in this universe has proven to be simple? Physics? Cosmology? Human psychology? Human history? Individual human lives?

A convoluted universe indeed.

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3 hours ago, UM-Bot said:

The immortal Star Trek actor...

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Quite obvious that Shatner is from somewhere else ;) 

So this is just ET propaganda :yes: :lol: 

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1 hour ago, Rolci said:

Hasn't he seen the Star Trek episode "Who Watches the Watchers"?? Is he really not familiar with the Prime Directive? Can he not surmise how it would be enforced by civilizations millions of years ahead of the rest in every galaxy? Doesn't take too much of a leap of imagination (and common sense).

we don't know aliens exist yet let alone if they're here on earth- one can 'believe aliens are here' but it don't make it fact= that's the common sense bit IMO

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3 hours ago, Roshman said:

Why do these UFOs keep crashing?

I have it on good authority that the auto land button is the same colour as the dive button in the saucer cockpit.. A design flaw. Silly Aliens :blink:

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4 hours ago, UM-Bot said:

The immortal Star Trek actor called into question the idea that aliens would travel all the way to Earth and then 'hide'.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/369199/william-shatner-calls-recent-ufo-revelations-ridiculous

Pfft.  Kirk doesn't know about the prime directive apparently.

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I agree with Bill. I have read quite a few fictional novels concerning contact between humanity and aliens and one thing I believe those books got right was that the point of contact on each side would automatically result in a great power shift within each sphere and it would be nearly impossible to hide. 
See Angel Station by Walter Jon Williams or the Uplift Wars by David Brinn

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We can't predict what other people do or why let alone an unknown species. If the base assumption that somebody is here hiding is even correct. Also it would be a pretty stupid question in the first place considering how many times ufos have been shot at. I mean publicly quite a few already. Battle of L.A., missiles shot at balloons, numerous chases with military. 

But why suddenly all the articles of actors silly opinions reflecting  thier disbelief in the unreleased evidence in the hearings happening in congress... pretty predictable and meaningless.

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8 hours ago, Rolci said:

It is such a shame to see a legend like him make such a stupid comment, if anyone he should be aware of the Prime Directive, one would've thought. He must be losing his mind. While the actual answer to the "why would they hide" is slightly different and a lot more complex than that, the real-world equivalent of the Prime Directive is an important pillar of visitation policy by any intelligent and advanced civilisation, keeping in mind that highly intelligent and advanced civilizations will have moved on to the stage where they enforce such policies for the protection of young and emerging species like ours.

Hasn't he seen the Star Trek episode "Who Watches the Watchers"?? Is he really not familiar with the Prime Directive? Can he not surmise how it would be enforced by civilizations millions of years ahead of the rest in every galaxy? Doesn't take too much of a leap of imagination (and common sense).

And of course this explanation does not take into account the existence of an infinite multiverse, nor does it consider seeding (and monitoring) of planets, let alone the nature of consciousness as a fundamental feature of our universe. Like I say, the answer is more complex than just "Prime Directive". But that's a no-brainer, what in this universe has proven to be simple? Physics? Cosmology? Human psychology? Human history? Individual human lives?

A convoluted universe indeed.

Or... , and hear me out, maybe Shatner is aware the Prime Directive is a Rodenberry created allegory.

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Who are "they", exactly, and where is "here", exactly?  The only means by which any ET might interact with our planet or residents thereof is for Miley Cyrus to give them disinterested hand jobs on TikTok?  That hasn't happened, so...there "are no aliens?"  Some guy in Brooklyn mistakes an obvious drone for something less terrestrial, claims they are aliens of some kind, and...the planet has thus never been visited by ETs?

Until participants to a conversation decide to define terms and refrain from super-positioning conclusions atop non-sequiturs, this topic - like those involving philosophy, atheism, much less anything more socially practical, etc. - will never go anywhere.

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2 hours ago, Cho Jinn said:

Who are "they", exactly, and where is "here", exactly?  The only means by which any ET might interact with our planet or residents thereof is for Miley Cyrus to give them disinterested hand jobs on TikTok?  That hasn't happened, so...there "are no aliens?"  Some guy in Brooklyn mistakes an obvious drone for something less terrestrial, claims they are aliens of some kind, and...the planet has thus never been visited by ETs?

Until participants to a conversation decide to define terms and refrain from super-positioning conclusions atop non-sequiturs, this topic - like those involving philosophy, atheism, much less anything more socially practical, etc. - will never go anywhere.

Unless you want to assume the laws of physics don’t limit travel between stars to just below light speed, which is fantasy at this point, and if you consider that we would be separated not only by distance but also possibly that our two civilizations existing billions of years apart then there is no good reason to believe we are being visited by ET’s. 

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3 hours ago, OverSword said:

Unless you want to assume the laws of physics don’t limit travel between stars to just below light speed, which is fantasy at this point, and if you consider that we would be separated not only by distance but also possibly that our two civilizations existing billions of years apart then there is no good reason to believe we are being visited by ET’s. 

Much of what we do today would be rather incomprehensible - at the very least fantastical - to people from merely a thousand years ago, and given our own recent technological progress I'd venture to say humans in 2500, if we made it that far, would be likewise mystical.  Vast separations in distance and time either aren't necessarily an issue, given technological advancement, or our personal ignorance of what is going on in just this average solar system past...30,000ft above the surface of this planet?  "Visitation" doesn't require a flying saucer touching down on the White House lawn, though unfortunately it would take an event like that to resolve the issue for many people.  In other words, depending on ones definitions and assumptions, we certainly could be though until such fact becomes consequential, it's simply an entertaining triviality.

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I think the entire direction and comments in this thread would be vastly different if Shatner stated he saw something in his recent trip to the edge of space. it is another example of either someone famous or in the scientific community that downplays or shoots holes in the ETH. This dismantles the hopes and fantasies of those who are firm believers in the ETH. Their negative comments in response are very telling though, and closed minded.

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1 hour ago, Trelane said:

I think the entire direction and comments in this thread would be vastly different if Shatner stated he saw something in his recent trip to the edge of space. it is another example of either someone famous or in the scientific community that downplays or shoots holes in the ETH. This dismantles the hopes and fantasies of those who are firm believers in the ETH. Their negative comments in response are very telling though, and closed minded.

What’s ETH?

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Why is it ridiculous that they would hide? They're probably wary of being attacked as we would be if we visited another world. Look at the history of humanity...we don't exactly have a great track record of co-existing with other nations let alone an interstellar visitor.
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8 hours ago, Cho Jinn said:

Much of what we do today would be rather incomprehensible - at the very least fantastical - to people from merely a thousand years ago, and given our own recent technological progress I'd venture to say humans in 2500, if we made it that far, would be likewise mystical.  Vast separations in distance and time either aren't necessarily an issue, given technological advancement, or our personal ignorance of what is going on in just this average solar system past...30,000ft above the surface of this planet?  "Visitation" doesn't require a flying saucer touching down on the White House lawn, though unfortunately it would take an event like that to resolve the issue for many people.  In other words, depending on ones definitions and assumptions, we certainly could be though until such fact becomes consequential, it's simply an entertaining triviality.

You are right of course, possibly we will discover some technology that will make faster than light travel a reality.  But until that happens it must be considered fantasy for the purpose of the argument of whether or not we are being visited by ET I think.

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5 minutes ago, sanchez710 said:

Why is it ridiculous that they would hide? They're probably wary of being attacked as we would be if we visited another world. Look at the history of humanity...we don't exactly have a great track record of co-existing with other nations let alone an interstellar visitor.

They came from thousands of lightyears away and we could hurt them?

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Thanks for your expertise, Bill.  :rolleyes:

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On 8/6/2023 at 6:41 AM, Rolci said:

It is such a shame to see a legend like him make such a stupid comment, if anyone he should be aware of the Prime Directive, one would've thought. He must be losing his mind. While the actual answer to the "why would they hide" is slightly different and a lot more complex than that, the real-world equivalent of the Prime Directive is an important pillar of visitation policy by any intelligent and advanced civilisation, keeping in mind that highly intelligent and advanced civilizations will have moved on to the stage where they enforce such policies for the protection of young and emerging species like ours.

Hasn't he seen the Star Trek episode "Who Watches the Watchers"?? Is he really not familiar with the Prime Directive? Can he not surmise how it would be enforced by civilizations millions of years ahead of the rest in every galaxy? Doesn't take too much of a leap of imagination (and common sense).

And of course this explanation does not take into account the existence of an infinite multiverse, nor does it consider seeding (and monitoring) of planets, let alone the nature of consciousness as a fundamental feature of our universe. Like I say, the answer is more complex than just "Prime Directive". But that's a no-brainer, what in this universe has proven to be simple? Physics? Cosmology? Human psychology? Human history? Individual human lives?

A convoluted universe indeed.

His comment makes perfect sense to me.  I have wondered the same thing.  And it has nothing to do with multiverse or any other way someone could visit our planet. 

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10,000 lights in the blink of an eye. Folding space doesn't take long. Lol. Plus we need AI to talk to their AI. Love his old way of thinking of the future. Love u mate!
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