Ryan Graves: subcommittee revelations were just 'tip of the iceberg'

[Dejarma]

8 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

You have to understand that those whistleblowers are putting their careers and well-being in jeopardy by coming forward. After all, look what happened to David Grusch. 

 

 

You have to understand that whistleblowing IS their career now

[+DieChecker]

9 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

The cat got out of the bag and Pandora's Box is now open. It is a brand new day and there is no turning back especially after a U.S. Air Force general overseeing North American airspace said that he would not rule out aliens and Avril Haines, the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), said that "UFO’s buzzing warships and being reported by US pilots could be of alien origin."

 

 

 

 

Experts have said for decades that if there ever is Disclosure, it would be either of two scenarios. 

One, aliens land on the White House lawn on worldwide TV. And PANIC ensues....

Two, a gradual trickle of official releases that gradually bring the "frog to a boil", so to speak. Where the public slowly... so slowly... is brought along with small reveals, till the thought of real ETs isn't that shocking. "They've been carrying on about this, after all, for a decade, since Biden...".

[Dejarma]

25 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Experts have said for decades that if there ever is Disclosure, it would be either of two scenarios. 

One, aliens land on the White House lawn on worldwide TV. And PANIC ensues....

Two, a gradual trickle of official releases that gradually bring the "frog to a boil", so to speak. Where the public slowly... so slowly... is brought along with small reveals, till the thought of real ETs isn't that shocking. "They've been carrying on about this, after all, for a decade, since Biden...".

you forgot Three: 

there's nothing to disclose because the authorities know as much as the public regarding aliens

[skyeagle409]

47 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Experts have said for decades that if there ever is Disclosure, it would be either of two scenarios. 

One, aliens land on the White House lawn on worldwide TV. And PANIC ensues....

Two, a gradual trickle of official releases that gradually bring the "frog to a boil", so to speak. Where the public slowly... so slowly... is brought along with small reveals, till the thought of real ETs isn't that shocking. "They've been carrying on about this, after all, for a decade, since Biden...".

I can remember commenting years ago that disclosure would eventually be made, but a slow process leading up to disclosure would take years in order to prepare the public because once disclosure is made, there can be no turning back the clock.

Now, we have the U. S. government refusing to rule out aliens and military and intelligence officials coming out into the open and admitting that extraterrestrial bodies and crash wreckage have been recovered as well as military and commercial pilots revealing encounters with objects whose advanced technologies and maneuvering capabilities far outmatched anything known to mankind whereas in many cases, their encounters were tracked and recorded by satellites, airborne, ship-based and ground-based radars, optical systems and infrared sensors of objects that clearly demonstrated advanced technologies unknown to mankind. Not only have the objects been tracked in space and within atmosphere, but beneath the ocean waves as well.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/mystery-speeding-objects-detected-underwater-24173342

Over the past several years we have been seeing an increase in official revelations related to these highly advanced machines thanks to government whistleblowers, military and intelligence officials, military pilots, commercial pilots, and radar controllers around the world and even scientist and satellite engineers who have revealed tracking UFOs including balloon scientist in New Mexico confirming that they have been tracking --- in their own worlds: "flying saucers."

 

 

 

 

 

 

[+DieChecker]

1 hour ago, skyeagle409 said:

I can remember commenting years ago that disclosure would eventually be made, but a slow process leading up to disclosure would take years ...

Now, we have the U. S. government refusing to rule out aliens and military and intelligence officials coming out into the open...

Over the past several years we have been seeing an increase in official revelations ...

Sounds to me like exactly what I meant to suggest. 

Evidence comes out. Experts refuse to refute it entirely. Whistleblowers slowly popping up...

If it happens, I think within 10 years. Maybe 5.

[skyeagle409]

7 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Sounds to me like exactly what I meant to suggest. 

Evidence comes out. Experts refuse to refute it entirely. Whistleblowers slowly popping up...

If it happens, I think within 10 years. Maybe 5.

That is roughly my time frame as well. There have been a number of military, intelligence, and government officials who have revealed what they know including this person of interest. 

" Mr. Callahan was the Division Chief of the Accidents and Investigations Branch of the FAA in Washington, DC. In his testimony he tells about a 1986 Japanese Airlines 747 flight that was followed by a UFO for 31 minutes over the Alaskan skies. Mr. Callahan was able to secure video tape and audio evidence of the event."

 

 

[Alchopwn]

On 9/2/2023 at 10:01 PM, esoteric_toad said:

I have have, that is the problem. This claim has been made, over and over again for decades on end. 

If someone can show me a leap in tech via those "retro-engineering downed alien craft" then perhaps that would have some credence. 

The techs that are supposed to have been a result of Alien tech include circuit boards, microchips, those oddly effective Nazi nightscopes, and memory metals/metamaterials.

[Grey Area]

On 9/13/2023 at 7:07 AM, skyeagle409 said:

You have to understand that those whistleblowers are putting their careers and well-being in jeopardy by coming forward. After all, look what happened to David Grusch. 

 

 

Let’s be clear, they are not Whistleblowers.  There has been no public disclosure following the senate hearings.  And when questions are asked to provide further details into the UAP phenomenon, all these so-called whistle blowers respond with the same: ‘I can only answer that in a closed hearing’.

This is the worst response ever because you then have the wild speculation ensuing from the UFO crowd over what might be simply the need to protect staff identities etc.

Talk about Grusch.  I like this guy, he’s relatable and believable, he could be your next door neighbour, and he’s kinda been picked up as the figure head of disclosure.  Now, he’s probably set for life doing the rounds at conventions, book rights, documentaries, but ultimately he has little to offer.  Grusch has no first hand experience of any of his claims, claims I might add he got clearance for prior to disclosure, and clearly has a limit on what he can disclose, whether that be due to limits imposed by his superiors or simply limits on what he actually knows.  Grusch is still firmly a company man, as are the other ‘whistleblowers’.

And all this recent UAP stuff is likely little more than an exercise in cross referencing known covert projects with sightings in order to try to ascertain which are potential foreign incursions.

I will add that there are thousands upon thousands of civilian telescopes, projects all with people with eyes on the sky, not beholden to government policy, why are they not seeing anything or coming forward?

[skyeagle409]

8 hours ago, Grey Area said:

Let’s be clear, they are not Whistleblowers.  There has been no public disclosure following the senate hearings.  And when questions are asked to provide further details into the UAP phenomenon, all these so-called whistle blowers respond with the same: ‘I can only answer that in a closed hearing’.

This is the worst response ever because you then have the wild speculation ensuing from the UFO crowd over what might be simply the need to protect staff identities etc.

Talk about Grusch.  I like this guy, he’s relatable and believable, he could be your next door neighbour, and he’s kinda been picked up as the figure head of disclosure.  Now, he’s probably set for life doing the rounds at conventions, book rights, documentaries, but ultimately he has little to offer.  Grusch has no first hand experience of any of his claims, claims I might add he got clearance for prior to disclosure, and clearly has a limit on what he can disclose, whether that be due to limits imposed by his superiors or simply limits on what he actually knows.  Grusch is still firmly a company man, as are the other ‘whistleblowers’.

And all this recent UAP stuff is likely little more than an exercise in cross referencing known covert projects with sightings in order to try to ascertain which are potential foreign incursions.

I will add that there are thousands upon thousands of civilian telescopes, projects all with people with eyes on the sky, not beholden to government policy, why are they not seeing anything or coming forward?

It is no secret that Grusch is a whistleblower whose testimony has been confirmed by others with firsthand knowledge and the subcommittee revelations were in fact, just a 'tip of the iceberg' and here are a few examples. Astronomers have reported tracking UFOs and have done so for centuries and even scientist and engineers reported tracking flying saucers and amazingly, it is no secret that they have. I want to post the following links in case you missed it before.

A List of UFO Sightings by Astronomers

                                      A List of UFO Sightings by Astronomers | PDF (scribd.com)     

Even our space surveillance systems have been tracking the objects, which was revealed by DSP satellite engineers of Aerojet. NORAD has code-named them "Fast Walkers." In other words, the government has been tracking these objects in space, within the atmosphere and even beneath the ocean waves and has known all along the objects were not of this Earth. But then again, that is exactly what military and intelligence officials and even satellite engineers have been asserting for decades. 

Fast Walker UFO

UFO Report (nicap.org)

Look at the official reports and data that are currently available to anyone. The collected and verifiable data and documentation are straight-to-the-point, and that is, the objects are not of this Earth. One of the reasons why I have brought up 14 CFR § 91.817 - Civil aircraft sonic boom, is to show that the objects do not produce sonic booms despite zooming through the atmosphere at supersonic speeds, and in some cases, hypersonic speeds. In addition, military and commercial pilots have watched those object perform maneuvers far outside the flight envelopes of any known aircraft of mankind and that fact is well-known and documented. And another point, UFOs have high endurance rates that far exceed those of conventional typical aircraft and they are transmedium objects as well. 

I have to set the stage straight about black projects, the objects in question have nothing to do with black projects because the advanced technology as demonstrated is far beyond anything known to mankind and additionally, what Navy pilots encountered over the Atlantic and Pacific oceans is not the way we conduct operations with our classified assets, especially when the issue of flight safety of involved and mankind doesn't have aircraft capable of conducting right-angle maneuvers and instantaneous accelerations from zero to hypersonic speed in seconds and yet, that is exactly what has been recorded by multiple, dissimilar space-based, airborne, ship-based and ground-based detection and tracking systems and the objects have been captured on video tape and photographed by military sources around the world.

If you possess a highly classified aircraft with technology so advanced that you do not wish your adversary to become aware of what you have and use your advanced aircraft in covert operations over the country of an adversary, you had better be prepared to do some explaining should your aircraft along with its highly classified advanced technology, malfunctions and falls into the hands of your adversary. For an example, a Navy P-3 with highly classified gear aboard was forced to land in China after a Chinese interceptor collided the aircraft. 

When Secrets Crash

When Secrets Crash | Air & Space Forces Magazine (airandspaceforces.com)

We have come a long way over the decades, especially the past several years to where the U. S. government now refuses to rule out aliens here on Earth and U. S. military and intelligence officials revealing that UFOs are not man-made craft. We not only have military and intelligence officials revealing UFOs are not man-made craft, but official and verifiable documentation, radar and multiple sensor data evidence have been revealing UFOs as extraterrestrial craft for decades as well.

CIA PAPERS DETAIL UFO SURVEILLANCE

Among the documents are several detailed reports of USAF attempts to either intercept or destroy UFOs. In a 1976 incident in Iran, two F-4 Phantom jet fighter-bombers pursued a large UFO that was sending out smaller craft. One of the smaller craft "headed straight for the F-4 at a very fast rate of speed. The pilot attempted to fire an AI missile at the object but at that instant his weapons control panel went off and he lost all communications." the pilot eluded the craft, then watched as it "returned to the primary object for a perfect rejoin."                                                                                                                       

 cufon.org/cufon/foia_007.htm

Conclusion UFOs Are Space Ships
Given SAC in 1952

A 1952 evaluation of "flying saucers" as interplanetary devices, sent to Strategic Air Command Headquarters from MacDill AFB, has been disclosed to NICAP by former information Specialist Don Widener, one of the AF men concurring in this opinion.

MANEUVERED MOTION AND "INTELLIGENT CONTROL STUDY

Edward J. Ruppelt, former Chief of the Air Force Project Blue Book investigation, later reported that the study was "very hot and very controversial...[it] was hot because it wasn't official and the reason it wasn't official was because it was so hot. It concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships." Air Force analysts had reached this conclusion before. Project Sign in 1948 had issued a Top Secret Estimate of the Situation drawing the same conclusion.

Many of these jet interception cases included a sort of "cat-and-mouse" behavior on the part of the UFOs, pulling away from the pursuing jets and then slowing down until they caught up again. This behavior has been repeated throughout the history of UFOs and is one of the many indicators of intelligence behind the phenomenon. Case after case can be cited of UFOs apparently playing interactive games with (a) military aircraft.

http://www.nicap.org/eth/motionstudy_ruppelt_orig.htm

As I have stated before, the "Cat is Out of the Bag," "Pandora's Box is Open," and military and intelligence officials are testifying about extraterrestrial encounters and retrievals, as well as the U.S. government now refusing to rule out aliens. In other words, it is a brand-new day, and we are now on the road toward disclosure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 14, 2023 by skyeagle409

[Dejarma]

2 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Now, he’s probably set for life doing the rounds at conventions, book rights, documentaries, but ultimately he has little to offer.

There will be many who think these people are gods & hand over cash without thinking. IMO this is the reason for whistle blowing= to earn money & a bit of fame.

I can remember Stanton Friedman charging well over 200 dollars lecture entrance fee, and that was years ago! Tons of cash to be earned, & they know it!

They can whistle blow as much as they want without worries because what they're claiming aint true, & they know it!

IF all the conspiracy theories are true & aliens are really here then there would be hundreds of people who'd have to be involved with the running of it all IMO.

Yet if it's all true why only a few blowing whistles? And why whistle blow in the first place? What's the point?

The fact that these individuals are whistle blowing only proves to me it's NOT true. If it was there's no way anyone would risk blowing whistles!

These people must have a screw loose= that's why they're now X this & X that= it really is quite pathetic some folk believe this BS- IMO 

[Grey Area]

3 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

It is no secret that Grusch is a whistleblower whose testimony has been confirmed by others with firsthand knowledge

Grusch has presented nothing of any substance.  Vague stories to the news media and we don’t know what else behind closed doors.  Who has confirmed what of Grusch’s generalisations?

3 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

and the subcommittee revelations were in fact, just a 'tip of the iceberg'

What revelations?  The sub committee heard testimony from officials concerning events already in the public domain.  There was nothing beyond what is already known.

3 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Astronomers have reported tracking UFOs and have done so for centuries and even scientist and engineers reported tracking flying saucers and amazingly, it is no secret that they have. I want to post the following links in case you missed it before.

A List of UFO Sightings by Astronomers

                                      A List of UFO Sightings by Astronomers | PDF (scribd.com)     

I’ll give you one here, that’s a cool little list there.  Hardly accounts of astronomers ‘tracking’ objects, but of sightings yes nice, however I will quote this one from the list, it’s actually quite famous:

Quote

William Herschel on Mars - '..From other phenomena it appears, however, that this planet is not without aconsiderable atmosphere; for, besides the permanent spots on its surface, I have often noticed occasionalchanges of partial bright belts.. and also a darkish one, in a pretty high latitude.. And these alterations we canhardly ascribe to any other cause than the variable disposition of clouds and vapours floating in theatmosphere of that planet.[Result of the contents of this paper] ...And that planet has a considerable but moderate atmosphere, so thatits inhabitants probably enjoy a situation in many respects similar to ours.

What would Herschel make of that statement today do you think?  And Therein lies the folly of leaping to conclusions without fully understanding the nature of what is being observed.  In the long run it’s not wholly important, but I imagine Herschel would be a little red in the face.

The rest there is just yada-yada, spam as many recycled stories as possible.  Disclosure may feel close, I think the reality is it’s never been further away, perhaps because there is little to disclose.

[skyeagle409]

7 hours ago, Dejarma said:

There will be many who think these people are gods & hand over cash without thinking. IMO this is the reason for whistle blowing= to earn money & a bit of fame.

A problem with that is the corroborating declassified data and documentation and we do have shocking comments from those who have reviewed classified videos, photos, and documentation. Even before David Grusch was allowed to attend the hearing he had to undergo an extensive credibility check and has provided the names of people working in the programs and the locations of the programs, pictures, and documents. The Inspector General reviewed these to determine if it was credible enough to refer to Congress. He determined it was credible and urgent.

 Congressman issues grim warning after viewing classified UFO footage: Could turn Earth to ‘charcoal’

A Tennessee lawmaker issued a dire warning after claiming to have seen classified UFO footage that hasn’t been released to the public. Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., speculated extraterrestrial life forms could have technology that humanity “can’t handle” during an appearance on the “Event Horizon” podcast. 

https://nypost.com/2023/07/12/rep-tim-burchett-has-grim-take-after-access-to-ufo-footage/

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/we-are-vastly-out-of-our-league-tennessee-lawmaker-gives-a-grim-warning-after-classified-ufo-footage-101689179787412.html

Representative Anna Paulina Luna has seen UAP photos of Technology the US Doesn't Have

 Republican Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida says she’s personally seen photograph evidence of an unidentified flying object (UFO) from a source in the Department of Defense that she believes is beyond our capabilities. Rep. Luna, who is an Air Force and Iraqi war veteran, said, “Based on the evidence that I have personally seen, the technology that exists is something that I don’t think any government has currently.”

 

Jonathan Grey: Generational Officer of the United States Intelligence Community

Jonathan Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC), where the analysis of UAP has been his focus. Previously he had experience serving Private Aerospace and Department of Defense Special Directive Task Forces. “The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real.

We are not alone,” Grey said. “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”

 

Former defense official Christopher Mellon says the US has recovered technology that 'did not originate on this earth'

In 2020, he admitted he was the secret source who provided the New York Times with the three UFO videos.

7 hours ago, Dejarma said:

I can remember Stanton Friedman charging well over 200 dollars lecture entrance fee, and that was years ago! Tons of cash to be earned, & they know it! They can whistle blow as much as they want without worries because what they're claiming aint true, & they know it!

You might want to see what others have been saying because they are revealing what many us already know from firsthand experience. Do you think think these folks were in it for the money and fame? Check it out.

Richard Nixon

Richard Nixon, US President from 1969 to 1974: "I'm not at liberty to discuss the government's knowledge of extraterrestrial UFO's at this time. I am still personally being briefed on the subject."

Ronald Reagan Sees a UFO

https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ronald-reagan-ufo.htm

Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/topic-guide/extraterrestrials-and-ufos-unidentified-flying-objects

J Edgar Hoover, FBI Director

"We must insist upon full access to disks recovered. ...."

J Edgar Hoover-authenticated memo

 

 

 

Edited September 15, 2023 by skyeagle409

[skyeagle409]

6 hours ago, Grey Area said:

Grusch has presented nothing of any substance.  Vague stories to the news media and we don’t know what else behind closed doors.  Who has confirmed what of Grusch’s generalisations?

What revelations?  The sub committee heard testimony from officials concerning events already in the public domain.  There was nothing beyond what is already known.

I’ll give you one here, that’s a cool little list there.  Hardly accounts of astronomers ‘tracking’ objects, but of sightings yes nice, however I will quote this one from the list, it’s actually quite famous:

What would Herschel make of that statement today do you think?  And Therein lies the folly of leaping to conclusions without fully understanding the nature of what is being observed.  In the long run it’s not wholly important, but I imagine Herschel would be a little red in the face.

The rest there is just yada-yada, spam as many recycled stories as possible.  Disclosure may feel close, I think the reality is it’s never been further away, perhaps because there is little to disclose.

Actually, David Grusch was the subject of an extensive credibility check even before he was allowed to appear before Congress, which I posted at post  #100 

[Grey Area]

1 hour ago, skyeagle409 said:

Actually, David Grusch was the subject of an extensive credibility check even before he was allowed to appear before Congress, which I posted at post  #100 

Yes and I have stated that he appears genuine and likeable.  But you aren’t listening, you are blinded by the need to fight every viewpoint that challenges your own perceptions of the truth.

Grusch has not whistleblown, not really.  Yes he’s come forward and made some incredible statements, but they are vague and not first hand.  Further to this, if he has given specifics, they have happened behind closed doors.  He has essentially raised more questions than he has answered.  This is not whistleblowing, and he is still very clearly abiding by the secrecy policies imposed during his military career.

My gut tells me you have been duped, and this one’s a doozie.

[skyeagle409]

16 hours ago, Grey Area said:

Yes and I have stated that he appears genuine and likeable.  But you aren’t listening, you are blinded by the need to fight every viewpoint that challenges your own perceptions of the truth.

Grusch has not whistleblown, not really.  Yes he’s come forward and made some incredible statements, but they are vague and not first hand.  Further to this, if he has given specifics, they have happened behind closed doors.  He has essentially raised more questions than he has answered.  This is not whistleblowing, and he is still very clearly abiding by the secrecy policies imposed during his military career.

My gut tells me you have been duped, and this one’s a doozie.

You might want to click on   #71 

Edited September 15, 2023 by skyeagle409

[Grey Area]

33 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

You might want to click on   #71 

It makes no difference, he could be the omnipotent Q from Star Trek it doesn’t change that all he has brought to public attention are words, and most of that was a rather speculative piece with the journalist Ross Coulthart.  In the public senate hearings we learned nothing more than this, and less was discussed.

Name one single piece of evidence that Grusch has provided that contains proof of the existence of ET?

And to cap it all off, in that Tic Tac UFO report that you are so adamant is aliens, during the Grusch interview with news nation Grusch states he doesn’t know what it is, and goes off on some tangent about alternate dimensions.

I know you want to believe, Grusch is so believable, so relatable and agreeable.  Still so beholden to keeping government secrets, secret.  He’s not a whistleblower.

[Alchopwn]

On 9/14/2023 at 9:34 PM, Grey Area said:

Let’s be clear, they are not Whistleblowers.  There has been no public disclosure following the senate hearings.  And when questions are asked to provide further details into the UAP phenomenon, all these so-called whistle blowers respond with the same: ‘I can only answer that in a closed hearing’.

Be a little reasonable, GA, please.  Each of these people has signed an Official Secrets Act document, and received legal council about what they can and cannot talk about in public without risking jail time.  The upshot is that they can speak on record to a closed hearing of the congressional subcommittee, and that isn't nothing, it just isn't public... Yet...  It is progress.

[Grey Area]

8 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

Be a little reasonable, GA, please.  Each of these people has signed an Official Secrets Act document, and received legal council about what they can and cannot talk about in public without risking jail time.  The upshot is that they can speak on record to a closed hearing of the congressional subcommittee, and that isn't nothing, it just isn't public... Yet...  It is progress.

I know all this, it doesn’t change the situation one iota, and frankly, when we talk about whistleblowing, there are plenty of ways to do it anonymously.

These UAP hearings are not about aliens they are about defence

[Trelane]

2 hours ago, Grey Area said:

I know all this, it doesn’t change the situation one iota, and frankly, when we talk about whistleblowing, there are plenty of ways to do it anonymously.

These UAP hearings are not about aliens they are about defence

That is precisely what Grusch had initially done. His original comments were submitted to the DoD Whistleblower Hotline which precipitated follow on interviews. However, Grusch for whatever reason, voided his rights to confidentiality when he decided to go on podcasts and YouTube streams to discuss items that were still being investigated by the DoD. Now it's just an unraveling carnival.

"This is the song that never ends...."

[skyeagle409]

8 hours ago, Grey Area said:

I know all this, it doesn’t change the situation one iota, and frankly, when we talk about whistleblowing, there are plenty of ways to do it anonymously.

These UAP hearings are not about aliens they are about defence

That is incorrect because mankind does not possess the advanced technology and performance capabilities which those objects are known for and remember, this is a worldwide phenomenon. 

[Alchopwn]

8 hours ago, Grey Area said:

I know all this, it doesn’t change the situation one iota, and frankly, when we talk about whistleblowing, there are plenty of ways to do it anonymously.

These UAP hearings are not about aliens they are about defence

Everything is connected.  Pull the right thread and the whole sleeve may unravel, and the entire garment of lies be exposed and have to be discarded.  I think it is important that the whistleblowers got congressional attention and at least some measure of public exposure.  Honestly if downed alien craft are exposed as we bring Pentagon illegal spending and corruption into the spotlight, I'd call that a nice big win.  Remember Al Capone wasn't brought down for his murders and racketeering, he was done in by the IRS, that is, the most obvious and apparent vulnerabilities of a criminal organization will be the most protected and unpredictability is always a better tactic.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Alchopwn

[Phantom309]

Looks like behind the scenes future whistleblowers are indeed talking, the number thus far is at least 30.

Hope to hell we hear from at least some of them - and soon.

 

[Trelane]

Two months since the Senate hearings, still nothing. All we get is the same regurgitated stories.

[Macho MAGA Man]

On 9/15/2023 at 1:05 AM, skyeagle409 said:

A problem with that is the corroborating declassified data and documentation and we do have shocking comments from those who have reviewed classified videos, photos, and documentation. Even before David Grusch was allowed to attend the hearing he had to undergo an extensive credibility check and has provided the names of people working in the programs and the locations of the programs, pictures, and documents. The Inspector General reviewed these to determine if it was credible enough to refer to Congress. He determined it was credible and urgent.

 Congressman issues grim warning after viewing classified UFO footage: Could turn Earth to ‘charcoal’

A Tennessee lawmaker issued a dire warning after claiming to have seen classified UFO footage that hasn’t been released to the public. Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., speculated extraterrestrial life forms could have technology that humanity “can’t handle” during an appearance on the “Event Horizon” podcast. 

https://nypost.com/2023/07/12/rep-tim-burchett-has-grim-take-after-access-to-ufo-footage/

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/we-are-vastly-out-of-our-league-tennessee-lawmaker-gives-a-grim-warning-after-classified-ufo-footage-101689179787412.html

Representative Anna Paulina Luna has seen UAP photos of Technology the US Doesn't Have

 Republican Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida says she’s personally seen photograph evidence of an unidentified flying object (UFO) from a source in the Department of Defense that she believes is beyond our capabilities. Rep. Luna, who is an Air Force and Iraqi war veteran, said, “Based on the evidence that I have personally seen, the technology that exists is something that I don’t think any government has currently.”

 

Jonathan Grey: Generational Officer of the United States Intelligence Community

Jonathan Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC), where the analysis of UAP has been his focus. Previously he had experience serving Private Aerospace and Department of Defense Special Directive Task Forces. “The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real.

We are not alone,” Grey said. “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”

 

Former defense official Christopher Mellon says the US has recovered technology that 'did not originate on this earth'

In 2020, he admitted he was the secret source who provided the New York Times with the three UFO videos.

You might want to see what others have been saying because they are revealing what many us already know from firsthand experience. Do you think think these folks were in it for the money and fame? Check it out.

Richard Nixon

Richard Nixon, US President from 1969 to 1974: "I'm not at liberty to discuss the government's knowledge of extraterrestrial UFO's at this time. I am still personally being briefed on the subject."

Ronald Reagan Sees a UFO

https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ronald-reagan-ufo.htm

Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/topic-guide/extraterrestrials-and-ufos-unidentified-flying-objects

J Edgar Hoover, FBI Director

"We must insist upon full access to disks recovered. ...."

J Edgar Hoover-authenticated memo

 

 

 

Thanks for posting all these truthful links with facts. Burchett and Luna have seen the evidence that extraterrestrial technology and non-biologics exist. 

Edited January 3 by Macho MAGA Man

[Trelane]

Over months 5 later.....still nothing new or groundbreaking. All we get is the same regurgitated stories.