Is this the end of Yevgeny Prigozhin?

[Duke Wellington]

6 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

The Investigative Committee is dealing with the case of the crash of Prigozhin's jet, this is a Russian investigation, there is no talk of an international one - Peskov. ㅤ

Various versions are considered, among them - a deliberate atrocity. ㅤ

Earlier, Brazil offered to investigate the crash jointly, since the Embraer Legacy 600 aircraft was produced by a Brazilian company, but was refused.
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According to aviation regulations Brazil absolutely must participate as the country where the airplane was produced. Plus the Embraer company separately.
But Ruzzia is the outlaw country. It is one more sign that they downed this jet themselves.

It is not common practice when an aircraft crashes to invite foreign investigators to establish a cause. Why also should a country do that to satisfy its enemies that nothing untoward happened?

[jmccr8]

1 hour ago, Electric Scooter said:

It is not common practice when an aircraft crashes to invite foreign investigators to establish a cause. Why also should a country do that to satisfy its enemies that nothing untoward happened?

Hi Cookie

The airplane manufacturer is usually in the rest of the world are there to do their own independent assessment of the aircraft. That Russia is not allowing it leaves the impression that they only want their investigation public.

You would have seen that if you read the comment.

Edited August 30, 2023 by jmccr8

[jmccr8]

From Wagner media:

“The situation is extremely difficult”: PMC “Wagner” is expelled from Africa and not allowed to fight in Ukraine

Representatives of PMC "Wagner" offer mercenaries to look for another job, temporary or permanent. This is stated in the audio message, which was at the disposal of the "Important stories".

In the audio, a Wagner representative says that in Africa and the Middle East, PMCs have serious competition in the form of the Russian Ministry of Defense and the National Guard: “They are also trying to enter there with similar activities that we conducted.” Mercenaries are also not allowed to fight against Ukraine.

According to him, the head of the PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, "on an extreme trip to Africa, resolved these issues," and "they will be further resolved by the leadership."

“We will try to provide work to our employees. When and to what extent is still unknown. Either wait or look for other ways to make money. Follow the international situation. If our team is admitted to the SMO, then we will actively resume recruitment activities, there will be work,” he said.

[Alchopwn]

Russian authorities are now saying "we don't need to investigate this crash."

[pellinore]

18 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

Russian authorities are now saying "we don't need to investigate this crash."

I'll be they don't. From NewsThump:

Is your plane suffering a catastrophic mechanical failure, or have you simply annoyed Vladimir Putin? Take our test to find out!

 Smoke is billowing from the engine of your plane, and you are hurtling nose-first towards the ground, but is this a mechanical failure, or did you annoy Russian president Vladimir Putin?

Answer the following multiple-choice questions with either answers A or B, and all will be revealed!

Q: Have you at any point in the last year or so sought to overthrow Vladimir Putin by means of coup?
A: Yes, albeit only briefly
B: No.

Q: Have you ever tried to provide information about Vladimir Putin to a foreign government or agency?
A: Yes, but all was forgiven.
B: No.

Q: Have you recently put bars across all of your upstairs windows to avoid unfortunate accidents?
A: Yes, it’s a sensible precaution in mother Russia.
B: No.

Q: Have you recently tried to take out life insurance and been laughed out of the room by the broker once they realised who you are?
A: I thought it was quite rude, actually.
B: No.

Q: Did you offer to let people join you on your most recent flight on a private jet, and if so, what was their reaction?
A: They suddenly remembered an urgent hair appointment, so took a raincheck.
B: I fly economy.

Results:

Mostly A’s. Sorry, that smoke is almost certainly the result of one of Vladimir’s explosives, either hidden on board your flight, or fired at you by a missile. Sorry. But at least you know who is to blame for you currently hurtling into the ground like a dart, which is better than not knowing, right?

Mostly B’s. Good news, your imminent demise is almost certainly the result of incompetence on the part of maintenance staff, and Vladimir Putin probably doesn’t even know you exist. Which offer you a small crumb of comfort in your final few moments on this earth.

 

[pellinore]

Curious:

 

[jmccr8]

1 hour ago, pellinore said:

Curious:

 

Hi Pellinore

Would be interesting what day that was recorded.

[Megaro]

On 8/30/2023 at 7:33 AM, jmccr8 said:

The Investigative Committee is dealing with the case of the crash of Prigozhin's jet, this is a Russian investigation, there is no talk of an international one - Peskov. ㅤ

Various versions are considered, among them - a deliberate atrocity. ㅤ

Earlier, Brazil offered to investigate the crash jointly, since the Embraer Legacy 600 aircraft was produced by a Brazilian company, but was refused.
ㅤ

According to aviation regulations Brazil absolutely must participate as the country where the airplane was produced. Plus the Embraer company separately.
But Ruzzia is the outlaw country. It is one more sign that they downed this jet themselves.

According to Reuters, the Center for Research and Prevention of Aeronautical Accidents in Brazil is not obliged, only recommended to participate in the investigation, if requested.  Prigozhin's flight from Moscow with a destination of St Petersburg was domestic, so it is not subject to international rules.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-will-not-probe-prigozhin-plane-crash-under-international-rules-brazil-2023-08-29/

[+Razman]

6 hours ago, pellinore said:

Curious:

 

Yea , i just briefly saw this . but i didn't see where he mentions the plane crash specifically. Now if he would have said that he wasn't on the plane that went down that everyone's talking about , then i would wonder . But heck , with CGI and deep fakes and stuff these days , who knows.

Edited August 31, 2023 by razman

[Trelane]

Nothing too shocking. 

"Putin's oldest ally was the mastermind behind the assassination of Wagner warlord Prigozhin"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-oldest-ally-was-the-mastermind-behind-the-assassination-of-wagner-warlord-prigozhin-report/ar-AA1lUzYa?ocid=msedgntphdr&cvid=a53b83ffe959475fbcec0fefd653f82c&ei=20

"The death of mutinous Wagner warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin in a plane crash was an assassination masterminded by Nikolai Patrushev, a close friend of Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to a report by The Wall Street Journal. Western intelligence officials and a former Russian intelligence officer told The Journal that the Wagner Group boss' death in August was driven and approved by 72-year-old Patrushev."

"Patrushev, like Putin, was a spy with the KGB intelligence agency. He later became the head of its successor, the FSB. He is now secretary of Russia's Security Council and is considered by some as a possible replacement for Putin if anything happened to the president."