Why did god NOT save her?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Just now, Crazy Horse said:

Because there are consequences for ones actions, good and bad.

Yes, one consequence you’re about to experience is being insulted by me. 
you utter pancake. 

[Crazy Horse]

6 hours ago, Dejarma said:

if god is real how is it i don't believe? sorry to answer a question with a question

You are asking someone on the internet, why don't I believe?

Only you can answer that question, and only you can change the answer.

[Crazy Horse]

6 hours ago, Dejarma said:

yet you believe & follow  

i'd love to know how long it took, & the procedure for humans to not believe in the likes of Thor

in hundred years time people like you wont exist- hopefully sooner

Well, if evolution is true, you're in big trouble.

[Crazy Horse]

6 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

Of course, it's chance, if you're an atheist. Anything else implies a directed Universe and the consequent can of worms that opens up. According to science, man is the product of millions of happy chances, without even only one of which, we wouldn't exist.

Seeing life as only chance, and as an accident too, is probably the earliest form of PTSD.

And would explain a lot.

[Crazy Horse]

6 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

I believe that the Creator of all that exists, by virtue of being omnipotent, omnipresent etc etc is fundamentally unknowable by a human being. It’s probably the most weaselly of philosophical positions because it doesn’t require me rationalise why God does a thing beyond “Welll.…. He did”.

Yeah I would say that the Fullness of GOD is unknowable.

But, we can know a little of THAT.

[Crazy Horse]

2 hours ago, spartan max2 said:

OP is one of the big reasons I'm atheist.

If God exist then he either causes bad things, or has the ability to stop them but chooses to do nothing. Which is almost worst. 

It seems more likely that God is just made up like all the other gods were 

Its not GOD that causes bad tings to happen, but ones decision to stray from the path of love, whether that was in this lifetime, or the last, doesn't matter.

GOD is constantly creating, its mankind that chooses to do nothing.

[Crazy Horse]

48 minutes ago, Essan said:

It's needs to be a particular prayer in a particular church, in a particular style with a particular stuff, and for particular problems that aren't particularly tough, and for particular people, preferably white. for particular senses, preferably sight, a particular prayer in a particular spot, to a particular version of a particular god ....
 

 

Whats the colure of ones skin got to do with anything?

[Essan]

12 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

Whats the colure of ones skin got to do with anything?

God clearly prefers white people - that's why they don't get malaria  

(It's just the song lyric!)

[XenoFish]

7 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

I believe that the Creator of all that exists, by virtue of being omnipotent, omnipresent etc etc is fundamentally unknowable by a human being. It’s probably the most weaselly of philosophical positions because it doesn’t require me rationalise why God does a thing beyond “Welll.…. He did”.

That's if God is even conscious at all. People tend to put a humanesque persona on their gods. Which is a comfort thing I guess. Putting something on an omni level with an eternal existence can also imply our little universe is an insignificant blip on the eternal scale. That our troubles are unimportant and a part of natural cause and effect. 

The more human you make god, the worse god gets.

Edited August 26 by XenoFish

[spartan max2]

32 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

Its not GOD that causes bad tings to happen, but ones decision to stray from the path of love, whether that was in this lifetime, or the last, doesn't matter.

GOD is constantly creating, its mankind that chooses to do nothing.

So the little girl in OP who got cancer at age 2 and later died from it had this bad thing happen because she "strayed from the path of love" ?  At age 2?

Edited August 26 by spartan max2

[XenoFish]

38 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

So the little girl in OP who got cancer at age 2 and later died from it had this bad thing happen because she "strayed from the path of love" ?  At age 2?

Might as well chalk it up to past life karma at that point.

[spartan max2]

8 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Might as well chalk it up to past life karma at that point.

Hmmm. Yeah that's probably what he would say. A convenient way to blame a 2 year old for their cancer. 

[XenoFish]

1 minute ago, spartan max2 said:

Hmmm. Yeah that's probably what he would say. A convenient way to blame a 2 year old for their cancer. 

I sadly agree. 

[Piney]

1 hour ago, Crazy Horse said:

Its not GOD that causes bad tings to happen, but ones decision to stray from the path of love, whether that was in this lifetime, or the last, doesn't matter.

Just when I think you couldn't be anymore ignorant and uneducated you surprise me again. 

18 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Might as well chalk it up to past life karma at that point.

That's just as bad as telling a child they are born in sin. 

[XenoFish]

12 minutes ago, Piney said:

That's just as bad as telling a child they are born in sin. 

Then that child grows up with a guilt and inferiority complex. 

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Just when I think you couldn't be anymore ignorant and uneducated you surprise me again. 

I think CH has single handedly caused me to hate seeing the word love. 

[openozy]

10 hours ago, Dejarma said:

 

why did god NOT save her? Especially when god (it seems) gave her the fekin cancer in the first place! 

You can't blame nothing for anything. Sorry for the young girl and her family. Proof enough for me there is no god and if there is it's not worth a pinch.

[Rlyeh]

8 hours ago, Will Due said:

Think of all the technological advances that we enjoy today because of all the pain and suffering that occurred during World War Ii. In that case, millions of people suffered and died. But without the war there would be many things that have increased our standard of living that would not exist.

Thank God for Hitler.

[XenoFish]

Strange how someone who's constantly yapping about love, yet lacks a single shred of sympathy for another person's loss. 

[spartan max2]

8 hours ago, Will Due said:

Think of all the technological advances that we enjoy today because of all the pain and suffering that occurred during World War Ii. In that case, millions of people suffered and died. But without the war there would be many things that have increased our standard of living that would not exist.

Like what? What did we achieve from WW2 that we would not have achieved otherwise?

The atomic bomb perhaps....

Edited August 26 by spartan max2

[Piney]

20 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Strange how someone who's constantly yapping about love, yet lacks a single shred of sympathy for another person's loss. 

At the same time 90% of the firefighters I know are religiously  apathetic. 

[Piney]

2 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

Like what? What did we achieve from WW2 that we would not have achieved otherwise?

The atomic bomb perhaps....

War does drive medical and technical innovation. It's why the Indo-Iranians developed bronze (weapons were first), the spoked wheel ( first seen on war chariots) and advanced surgery techniques. 

[spartan max2]

8 minutes ago, Piney said:

War does drive medical and technical innovation. It's why the Indo-Iranians developed bronze (weapons were first), the spoked wheel ( first seen on war chariots) and advanced surgery techniques. 

Historically. I think an argument could be made that in the modern world with greater interconnection and collaboration amongst scientist that war may be a hindrance in some areas and accelerates war related science (which does often benefit medicine) but we also don't know what would have happened without things like WW2 and the cold war. Maybe science would have progressed in a different direction ?

Idk. It's just speculation on my part. 

[+Sherapy]

3 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

GOD pours forth nothing but love, yet how one wishes to see, experience that Spirit, is up to the individual.

In other words, one needs to take responsibility for the decisions one makes.

 

CH, the argument from evil is a philosophical argument that raises questions about the existence of an all-powerful, all-knowing, and benevolent (all loving) God in the face of the existence of evil and suffering in the world. It poses a huge challenge to your concept of God.

The argument from evil can be summarized as follows:

1. If an all-powerful, all-knowing, and perfectly good God exists, then evil and suffering should not exist.
2. Evil and suffering do exist.
3. Therefore, an all-powerful, all-knowing, and perfectly good God does not exist.

The argument suggests that the existence of evil is incompatible with the existence of a perfect God. It questions why an all-loving God would allow things like disease, natural disasters, human cruelty, and personal suffering to occur.

Therefore claiming an all loving deity raises serious doubts about the nature of an all loving benevolent deity. If a loving God truly existed according to you then THAT would prevent or minimize evil and suffering in the world.

Please explain “how”  not “why” an all loving deity allows for the suffering and death of a two year old child.

Edited August 26 by Sherapy

[Piney]

38 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

Historically. I think an argument could be made that in the modern world with greater interconnection and collaboration amongst scientist that war may be a hindrance in some areas and accelerates war related science (which does often benefit medicine) but we also don't know what would have happened without things like WW2 and the cold war. Maybe science would have progressed in a different direction ?

Idk. It's just speculation on my part. 

If WWI never happened WWII wouldn't of and the EU would of come together earlier and probably smashed the Soviet Bloc if they ever even rose to power.

Money would of then be put into more peaceful things than weapons. 

Edited August 26 by Piney
brain fart

[+Hammerclaw]

39 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

CH, the argument from evil is a philosophical argument that raises questions about the existence of an all-powerful, all-knowing, and benevolent (all loving) God in the face of the existence of evil and suffering in the world. It poses a huge challenge to your concept of God.

The argument from evil can be summarized as follows:

1. If an all-powerful, all-knowing, and perfectly good God exists, then evil and suffering should not exist.
2. Evil and suffering do exist.
3. Therefore, an all-powerful, all-knowing, and perfectly good God does not exist.

The argument suggests that the existence of evil is incompatible with the existence of a perfect God. It questions why an all-loving God would allow things like disease, natural disasters, human cruelty, and personal suffering to occur.

Therefore claiming an all loving deity raises serious doubts about the nature of an all loving benevolent deity. If a loving God truly existed according to you then THAT would prevent or minimize evil and suffering in the world.

Please explain “how”  not “why” an all loving deity allows for the suffering and death of a two year old child.

God may not be God to God. After all, we're the ones that hung that moniker on him.