Why did god NOT save her?

[XenoFish]

In Tharg We Trust.

[TashaMarie]

On 8/26/2023 at 3:24 AM, Dejarma said:

My Christian friends prayed to god for the life of their daughter who contracted cancer at the age of 2.

At the age of 12 she finally passed on after a life of EXSTREAM pain & suffering!!! Not only for her of course....

Answer this:

why did god NOT save her? Especially when god (it seems) gave her the fekin cancer in the first place! 

I've a strong feeling not many <Religious> folk will reply & attempt to explain why 

 

He would need to exist in order to have saved her.

[Piney]

4 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

"Genetic cancers" are still triggered by something.

 

Genes. 

4 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

Well perhaps, to save future generations from the same fate, we might want to look at all the carcinogens in our food, our clothes, our toiletries etc, etc, etc... Instead of blaming GOD.

You have to actually believe in a god to blame him.

[Crazy Horse]

2 hours ago, XenoFish said:

In Tharg We Trust.

Trolls gonna troll.

And this poster calls me heartless!!!

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by Crazy Horse

[Crazy Horse]

1 hour ago, TashaMarie said:

He would need to exist in order to have saved her.

And how would you know whether, (or not) HE exists?

The ignorant ant professing upon the lives of Yogis.

You know nothing.

Edited August 27, 2023 by Crazy Horse

[Crazy Horse]

24 minutes ago, Piney said:

Genes. 

You have to actually believe in a god to blame him.

Not everybody with those particular genes goes on and gets cancer, and that's a fact.

And, that's true, and yet it doesn't stop the atheists from trying..

See the OP for exhibit A

[+Sherapy]

5 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

"Genetic cancers" are still triggered by something.

 

 

 

CH, please stand corrected, In some cases, genetic mutations occur spontaneously during an individual's lifetime and can contribute to the development of cancer. These mutations can happen randomly and are not directly triggered by external factors. They may arise due to errors during DNA replication or repair. These types of genetic changes are known as somatic mutations and are “often” seen in different types of cancer.

On the other hand, certain types of genetic mutations inherited from parents can increase the risk of developing cancer. These are known as germline mutations and can be passed down through generations. Inherited mutations may make individuals more susceptible to the development of specific types of cancer, but it doesn't necessarily mean that cancer will develop. Environmental factors, such as exposure to certain chemicals, radiation, lifestyle choices, or infections, can also interact with genetic predispositions to contribute to the development of cancer. 

It's always best to consult with a healthcare professional or genetic counselor for a better understanding of individual genetic risks and potential triggers for cancer than the poster Crazy Horse. There is no data to support that someone gets cancer from a past lifetime. Medical professionals  can provide personalized information and guidance based on one’s specific circumstances.

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by Sherapy

[Crazy Horse]

22 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

 In some cases, genetic mutations occur spontaneously during an individual's lifetime 

In which case its not the same thing we are talking about.

[+Sherapy]

Just now, Crazy Horse said:

In which case its not the same thing we are talking about.

It is your position that is being countered that “genes are triggered” by something. You are in error, it is appropriate to stand corrected, not pretend you didn’t post this.

[Piney]

46 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

Not everybody with those particular genes goes on and gets cancer, and that's a fact.

And, that's true, and yet it doesn't stop the atheists from trying..

See the OP for exhibit A

No, but with metastatic prostrate cancer which only affects people of Sub Saharan African descent doesn't have a trigger other than the gene being turned on. 

I know all about it. I took care of one relative who had it and watched another die from it. Both were healthy and took care of themselves.

[Piney]

2 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

It is your position that is being countered that “genes are triggered” by something. You are in error, it is appropriate to stand corrected, not pretend you didn’t post this.

Ignorance is bliss! Can you feel the love? 

[Crazy Horse]

Just now, Sherapy said:

It is your position that is being countered that “genes are triggered” by something. You are in error, it is appropriate to stand corrected, not pretend you didn’t post this.

Piney was talking about genetically passed on genes.

I said that not everybody with those genes gets cancer, which means that something else must trigger it.

So where exactly do I need to be corrected?

 

 

[Piney]

59 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

And how would you know whether, (or not) HE exists?

The ignorant ant professing upon the lives of Yogis.

You know nothing.

After studying the Bible I'm more than certain HE has penis problems.

[Crazy Horse]

3 minutes ago, Piney said:

No, but with metastatic prostrate cancer which only affects people of Sub Saharan African descent doesn't have a trigger other than the gene being turned on. 

I know all about it. I took care of one relative who had it and watched another die from it. Both were healthy and took care of themselves.

You are so full of it.

[Piney]

Just now, Crazy Horse said:

Piney was talking about genetically passed on genes.

I said that not everybody with those genes gets cancer, which means that something else must trigger it.

So where exactly do I need to be corrected?

 

 

Nothing triggers it. The gene just turns on.

[Crazy Horse]

1 minute ago, Piney said:

After studying the Bible I'm more than certain HE has penis problems.

Project much...?

Obviously not.. 

Is it a bit on the small side, P?

[Crazy Horse]

1 minute ago, Piney said:

Nothing triggers it. The gene just turns on.

The gene just turns on, what? without a cause? that must be a first for science..

[Piney]

Just now, Crazy Horse said:

You are so full of it.

Really? Your denying I took care of my stepfather who died from cancer? And my sister? 

Ask my former employer...

@Commander CMG and one of my best friends @Not A Rockstar.

[Piney]

1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said:

Project much...?

Obviously not.. 

Is it a bit on the small side, P?

That's what you do. 

[+Sherapy]

3 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

Piney was talking about genetically passed on genes.

I said that not everybody with those genes gets cancer, which means that something else must trigger it.

So where exactly do I need to be corrected?

 

 

Piney is correct, Piney is also a resource I would trust due to his work as an EMT, he understands gene mutation. 

[XenoFish]

7 minutes ago, Piney said:

Both were healthy and took care of themselves.

So weird how that works. One person smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day and dies of old age, another doesn't smoke yet dies of lung cancer. Same thing applies to diet. Person A eats unhealthy, dies at 90. Person B dies at 30 having ate healthy and exercised. Just so odd.

[Piney]

1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

So weird how that works. One person smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day and dies of old age, another doesn't smoke yet dies of lung cancer. Same thing applies to diet. Person A eats unhealthy, dies at 90. Person B dies at 30 having ate healthy and exercised. Just so odd.

My Aunt Emma lived to 95 on TV dinners. 

[+Sherapy]

2 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

So weird how that works. One person smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day and dies of old age, another doesn't smoke yet dies of lung cancer. Same thing applies to diet. Person A eats unhealthy, dies at 90. Person B dies at 30 having ate healthy and exercised. Just so odd.

 

7 minutes ago, Piney said:

My Aunt Emma lived to 95 on TV dinners. 

My uncle is close to 90 still smokes cigarettes and drinks literally has not had a health issue so far. Even at this point, no matter what he lived a full life smoked and drank. He is very active too. The Doctor I work for claims an active lifestyle covers a multitude of sin. 

[simplybill]

I saw this on Facebook this morning. 

“When my baby died and I was a mess someone told me, “I can’t imagine the pain you’re going through. I know your heart, expectations, assumed roles and future memories have been broken. But to your child they had the perfect life. All they ever knew was your love." I still cry thinking about it but it really did help. I know some may take this differently, but it was what I needed at the time.”

It made me think of my nephew who had a type of brain aneurysm when he was 8-years-old that kept him bed-ridden or in a wheelchair for the rest of his short life, and my niece who was born with severe cerebral palsy who needed round-the-clock care from my sister and her husband and their two older daughters. 

There’s a powerful evil presence with evil intent in this world, but our God always finds a way to reduce the impact of that evil. Oftentimes, a community arises during and after a tragic event to show love and support for the hurting families: meals are delivered, people volunteer to mow lawns or do the grocery shopping, others offer rides to and from the hospitals.

The long-term influences of a tragic event can sometimes be like growing an orchard after starting with a single tree: the sister of my nephew who suffered the aneurysm chose a career where she works in group homes for mentally-challenged adults. My sister whose daughter was born with CP completed her nursing degree during the time she cared for her disabled daughter. One of her daughters also chose nursing as a career, and the other daughter got her teaching degree to teach special needs children. The tragedy of the loss of a child will always be painful, but the loss of my nephew and the life of my niece with cerebral palsy have resulted in good for literally hundreds, if not thousands, of other people.

“But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.”

Genesis 50:20 NKJV

Edited August 27, 2023 by simplybill

[Piney]

13 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

Piney is correct, Piney is also a resource I would trust due to his work as an EMT, he understands gene mutation. 

Then there's the actual evolutionary biology background thanks to my older sister.