The Pentagon’s UFO office is sending cryptic ‘alien’ messages

[Unusual Tournament]

The Pentagon’s UFO office is sending cryptic ‘alien’ messages
 

Last week, the Pentagon’s new UFO office, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), unveiled its long-awaited website. Tucked among previously-released graphics, transcripts and videos is an important new document outlining the office’s mission and objectives.
 

https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4191383-the-pentagons-ufo-office-is-sending-cryptic-alien-messages/

[esoteric_toad]

Another nothing burger.

[Dejarma]

i wish this forum had a vomit smiley. I could put= < 'sick'> with nice little animations without having to type 'sick'

[Hawken]

Toilet paper companies are hoping for disclosure. They made huge profits on covid. 

[Tatetopa]

The mission statement appears to be a tell.  The agency wants to collect as much information as possible on sightings that people make.  I think they want millions of eyes and cell phones ready to record sightings.  Not necessarily because they think that sightings are of ET craft, but just as important, unknown technology from our competitors.  I suspect they will collect far more information than they share. JMO.

[Hankenhunter]

Importantly, many of the reports involving “metallic orbs” are based “very much” on “multi-sensor observations” — the gold standard of data and evidence.

[+and-then]

2 hours ago, Hawken said:

Toilet paper companies are hoping for disclosure. They made huge profits on covid. 

Too right... imagine the run on TP if full disclosure happened and DC told us aliens are real.  

[+and-then]

1 hour ago, Hankenhunter said:

Importantly, many of the reports involving “metallic orbs” are based “very much” on “multi-sensor observations” — the gold standard of data and evidence.

Right off hand, I assume that means sensor measurements from radar, photographic capture, and IR cameras.  If there is a way to prove these things are real, those kinds of measurements should do the trick.

That headline confuses me.  Are they saying that we're sending cryptic queries out for aliens to detect, or that this new agency is being cryptic about its mission?

Edited September 9 by and-then

[Hawken]

1 hour ago, and-then said:

Too right... imagine the run on TP if full disclosure happened and DC told us aliens are real.  

I used to think people were ready for disclosure with all the advancements in technolgy we've made over the past 100 years.

But when covid came around, people freaked out and made me rethink if we could handle another extraordinary situation. 

[+joc]

I actually think the AARO is a good thing.  There are anomalies such as the radar blips and such that do need to be identified.  The reason they need to be identified or at least reported in a standardized and transparent way is because it is dangerously arrogant to think that we do not have enemies on this planet that would seek to destroy us.   The most probable avenue for an attack would be through a trojan horse of some kind.

Like the AARO says in it's mission statement:

⎯UAP ≠ unattributed balloon activity; key emphases on “anomalous” factors

⎯Existence of UAP is direct consequence of domain-awareness gaps

⎯UAP potentially represent advanced capabilities operating in our domain-awareness gaps

I don't think any of this has a damn thing  to do with Aliens from outerspace.  What we are really concerned about is advanced technology created by humans that we are unaware of...like from the Chinese...or other entities that might wish us harm.  And we do have domain-awareness gaps.  We don't know what the Navy Pilots were seeing.  We need to know.  We need to be aware.  In this age of technological advancement...not knowing could be deadly.

Some people believe that the anomalies are Aliens.  Belief = not knowing.  We need to know.  

 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

from the OP: 

Referring to the object in the video, Kirkpatrick stated, “This is a typical example of the thing that we see most of.
We see these all over the world and we see these making very interesting apparent maneuvers.”

Tres cool. Very refreshing article, 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

6 hours ago, joc said:

I don't think any of this has a damn thing  to do with Aliens from outerspace.  What we are really concerned about is advanced technology created by humans that we are unaware of...

Well. joc, it's a bit fanciful to suspect that those air wizards are human, seeing as though the wizards have put on air shows since before man could fly. 

Some bristle at that portrayal, but are you a believer in the government's assertation that all *known* UFO incidents in America occurred after 2002?

[+joc]

2 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Well. joc, it's a bit fanciful to suspect that those air wizards are human, seeing as though the wizards have put on air shows since before man could fly. 

Some bristle at that portrayal, but are you a believer in the government's assertation that all *known* UFO incidents in America occurred after 2002?

I'm not a believer in anything.  The only facts concerning the UAPs of Navy Radar fame are that we don't know what they are and that they constitute a gap in our knowledge.  Are they from outer space?  We don't know.  Are they created by human technology from perhaps enemies we don't even know exist?  We don't know.  Which is precisely why the AARO was created...in an effort to understand and resolve unidentified anomalous phenomena.

We live in the age of AI.  We also live in the age of Quantum Mechanics.  From the study of QM using AI, we may find that it is quite possible to create something that has the attributes of these UAPs that you are all convinced are of Alien creation.  They may be, but until we know, we don't know.  Through their assessment in a realistic scientific environment...we may find out.  It is a given to say that before man could fly, we had no radar.  Now we do and we have anomalous radar readings and we need to find out why.  That's all.

It is arrogant to assume that there are not any other humans on this planet that are creating them.  That is a real and present danger.  And again, that is why the Government decided to investigate them and created the AARO (  All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office).

 

[Dejarma]

58 minutes ago, joc said:

From the study of QM using AI, we may find that it is quite possible to create something that has the attributes of these UAPs that you are all convinced are of Alien creation.

the problem here is these attributes are 'alleged'.. We don't know that what has been 'allegedly' seen actually happened as described or if they really happened at all!

Just 'stories', despite who tells the story it's still a story.

We get the data via someone being interviewed in the media etc/ situations where they get paid to talk. Personally I can't trust anything I'm told under these circumstances- as I feel you'll agree 

[+joc]

3 hours ago, Dejarma said:

the problem here is these attributes are 'alleged'.. We don't know that what has been 'allegedly' seen actually happened as described or if they really happened at all!

Just 'stories', despite who tells the story it's still a story.

We get the data via someone being interviewed in the media etc/ situations where they get paid to talk. Personally I can't trust anything I'm told under these circumstances- as I feel you'll agree 

I agree that we don't know if they even happened the way they were described.  After all, memory is not particularly fallible.  But the number of alleged UAPs with the stories similar does make me (and apparently the US Government) wonder what the hell is going on.  

But if you've read anything I've said about any of this then you know that I have repeatedly said that there isn't any proof of Aliens, or alien craft or civilizations outside of planet Earth.  And that, the only proof of aliens would be an alien or it's craft peer reviewed by scientists across the globe.

 Edited to add:  I still have no idea what Alien Cryptic Messages have to do with anything except a headline to grab the attention to get one to read the story.  That is what headlines are for btw, so, that much is a joke for sure.  There isn't anything in the story I read that even alludes to sending any kind of messages cryptic or otherwise.

Edited September 10 by joc

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

23 hours ago, joc said:

I'm not a believer in anything.  The only facts concerning the UAPs of Navy Radar fame are that we don't know what they are and that they constitute a gap in our knowledge.  Are they from outer space?  We don't know.  Are they created by human technology from perhaps enemies we don't even know exist?  We don't know.  Which is precisely why the AARO was created...in an effort to understand and resolve unidentified anomalous phenomena.

I agree, joc, with what you say except for what I highlighted. I think that if some unknown enemy group had this technology, the West's spy network would surely know who it is.
Secondly, I don't think that human technological evolution has even come close to being able to support the creation of technologies that we are seeing today.
And you also have to look historically, too. The UFO in the Battle of LA had far superior technology than anything we have today, let alone - then, so... not human. IMO

 

23 hours ago, joc said:

We live in the age of AI.  We also live in the age of Quantum Mechanics.  From the study of QM using AI, we may find that it is quite possible to create something that has the attributes of these UAPs that you are all convinced are of Alien creation. 

To heck with "the age we live in", joc. You can't walk back earlier UFO incidents that easily, and I would like to address the ones that there is no such escape clause
and there are plenty, such as Battle of LA 1942, the 2 week UFO flap Washington DC 1952, and the photo I presented, Salem Coast Guard station 1952. 
You're avoiding it like the plague. The evidences are stacked sky high, and I observe them and learn from them because I am a realist. 

 

23 hours ago, joc said:

They may be, but until we know, we don't know.  Through their assessment in a realistic scientific environment...we may find out.  It is a given to say that before man could fly, we had no radar.  Now we do and we have anomalous radar readings and we need to find out why.  That's all.

It is arrogant to assume that there are not any other humans on this planet that are creating them.  That is a real and present danger.  And again, that is why the Government decided to investigate them and created the AARO (  All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office).

 

If investigating these incidents now is wise and prudent, then should we have had an AARO in 1942?? 
They are trying to make it look like all UAP incidents logged by the military occurred after 2002. hahaha. President Donald Trump to his son, 2020,
in the White House rose garden said, he would like to talk about Roswell but it was classified! Hey, I thought congress ordered them to declassify their UAP incidents 

I notice your lack of care about the photo I supplied. not surprising.  Later, dude

Edited September 10 by Earl.Of.Trumps

[+joc]

18 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I agree, joc, with what you say except for what I highlighted. I think that if some unknown enemy group had this technology, the West's spy network would surely know who it is.
Secondly, I don't think that human technological evolution has even come close to being able to support the creation of technologies that we are seeing today.

So what?... in twenty years plus after 911 we have suddenly become Omnipotent??  But human technology is evolved enough to be able to know exactly what all of our enemies are doing?  

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

7 hours ago, joc said:

So what?... in twenty years plus after 911 we have suddenly become Omnipotent??  But human technology is evolved enough to be able to know exactly what all of our enemies are doing?  

joc, the US developed the nuclear bomb and the USSR spy ring got the key secret to that invention delivered to them within a couple of years.

If *some* country,,, any country, had the amazing technology we have seen by these UAPs for many decades, US Intel would surely know - at the very least, who has it. 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 12 by Earl.Of.Trumps
reword

[SHaYap]

37 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

If *some* country,,, any country, had the amazing technology we have seen by these UAPs for many decades, US Intel would surely know - at the very least, who has it. 

The debate over here this side of the planet is, " is it Hollywood? "

Just like those Promo reels and shots of the Apollo missions, but with AI generated visuals. 

Quote

The UFO Chronicles’ Exclusive: AI-Generated Documentary Explains The Battle of LA

Mary Beth McAndrews  |  

Feb 3, 2023

...

https://www.dreadcentral.com/news/446570/the-ufo-chronicles-exclusive-ai-generated-documentary-explains-the-battle-of-la/

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If a home user end desktop setup is that convincing nowadays, think supercomputers from a decade ago before all these GPU were available on the market. 

~

 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

23 minutes ago, SHaYap said:

The debate over here this side of the planet is, " is it Hollywood? "

Just like those Promo reels and shots of the Apollo missions, but with AI generated visuals. 

Hey SHaYap, how are ya? 
I question this point of view like an investigator should.

I suppose that Hollywood can do a lot of magic things, but they can't be all over the world, and they can't get local people to agree to be fake witnesses. make sense?
In other words, if they have this terrific video of a UFO invasion of Sheboygan, Wisconsin, the people from Sheboygan will deny everything and ruin the veracity of the video.

Also, how does one make money doing this? It must be expensive to make the video with the latest that AI has to offer. I can't see it. Maybe 1 or 2 vids as a spoof, but that's it. 
 

23 minutes ago, SHaYap said:

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If a home user end desktop setup is that convincing nowadays, think supercomputers from a decade ago before all these GPU were available on the market. 

~

 

That was interesting, I enjoyed that.

Ok, so if you go back a decade, fine, but that does not explain a whole host of UFO incidents. One of the most impressive was Battle of LA, 1942. 
There was no such thing as a computer back then. 

Good to see ya, bud

[+joc]

2 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

joc, the US developed the nuclear bomb and the USSR spy ring got the key secret to that invention delivered to them within a couple of years.

If *some* country,,, any country, had the amazing technology we have seen by these UAPs for many decades, US Intel would surely know - at the very least, who has it. 

Maybe there is no country.  Maybe there is a small group of very powerful and wealthy and criminal minds completely off the grid.

Then again...maybe all of the Greek Gods and the Egyptian Gods and the Abrahamic God are all from different civilizations spread through out the cosmos ... those who have learned the secrets of mastering the fabric.

[SHaYap]

1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Hey SHaYap, how are ya? 

As well as can be expected, you're doing well too I presume ... 

~

1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I question this point of view like an investigator should.

Best go the way of the inquisitor... 

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1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I suppose that Hollywood can do a lot of magic things, but they can't be all over the world, and they can't get local people to agree to be fake witnesses. make sense?

I think, as from my discussions from the folks I've met, I generally agree that reliable witnesses are usually the quiet reluctant ones, and the last to hop on into the alien / extraterrestrial pit. 

~

1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

In other words, if they have this terrific video of a UFO invasion of Sheboygan, Wisconsin, the people from Sheboygan will deny everything and ruin the veracity of the video.

I can't give you links or citations, but I had an interesting conversation with someone who seemed to be very informed with governmental information departments. According to him, in a controlled environment, it is much easier to control the fiction than the non fiction, and even easier when there are more than two people involved. 

Mass effect works wonders. Gave examples of Mk-ultra and experiments with hallucinogens. The key, or secret is, according to him, is you plant the idea or thought and let the story grow on it's own initiatives. 

The saying goes? It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they've been fooled. And there's no better way to fool someone than to encourage them to fool themselves... 

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1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Also, how does one make money doing this? It must be expensive to make the video with the latest that AI has to offer. I can't see it. Maybe 1 or 2 vids as a spoof, but that's it. 
 

I don't believe the principal objectives is money but rather, influence, clout... That's where the big money, and in certain context, power,  is. 

~

1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

That was interesting, I enjoyed that.

Ok, so if you go back a decade, fine, but that does not explain a whole host of UFO incidents. One of the most impressive was Battle of LA, 1942. 
There was no such thing as a computer back then. 

Yeah, I found it intriguing too. The thing is, I don't see it as a all or nothing conundrum. Or just because one aspect of it is reliable, it gives relevance to the entirety of the pursuit. 

This is where things get a bit tentative in regards to reliability, as far as I am concerned, I avoid popular beliefs whenever I get the chance. My unshakeable stance is still deflection, distraction and narrative control. 

Whatever the perception is, in the end, it is nor was the entire picture. One thing I am convinced of is that whatever is being revealed to the general populace, is directly designed to confuse and confound. 

You'll have to tie a lot of things together both proven and unproven, nothing right or wrong about it. Problem is, a lot of what is true is very unpleasant and unpalatable to accept, as egregious as it is. 

I'm in the middle of making lunch so I have to be brief. 

~

1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Good to see ya, bud

Likewise... 

~

[skyeagle409]

4 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

joc, the US developed the nuclear bomb and the USSR spy ring got the key secret to that invention delivered to them within a couple of years.

If *some* country,,, any country, had the amazing technology we have seen by these UAPs for many decades, US Intel would surely know - at the very least, who has it. 

You've got that right, especially since these objects have been tracked at hypersonic speeds over the United States without creating sonic booms. That would indicate an advanced technology unknown to mankind because we are still working the sonic boom problem to this very today and yet in 1952, an object was tracked on radar over Washington D. C. at 7200 mph and no one heard a sonic boom. One of the pilots over the area remarked about the fantastic speed of the object that was tracked on radar. In other words, this was a classic radar/visual UFO case.

In addition, the objects have disabled our nuclear missiles across the country which would have been considered an act-of-war if the objects were proven to be of foreign origin and we would have known if the objects were Russian or not, but even the Russians revealed that UFOs have affected their nuclear missiles as well. That would clearly indicate the UFOs are neither American or Russian.

Edited September 12 by skyeagle409

[skyeagle409]

1 hour ago, skyeagle409 said:

That would indicate an advanced technology unknown to mankind because we are still working the sonic boom problem to this very today and yet in 1952, an object was tracked on radar over Washington D. C. at 7200 mph and no one heard a sonic boom.

I would be nice if the AARO investigates the incidents that occurred over Washington D. C. in 1952.

https://www.history.com/news/ufos-washington-dc-news-reports

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/files/shoot_down_ins_83052.gif

 

Edited September 12 by skyeagle409

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

21 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

I would be nice if the AARO investigates the incidents that occurred over Washington D. C. in 1952.

https://www.history.com/news/ufos-washington-dc-news-reports

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/files/shoot_down_ins_83052.gif

 

Yeah but see,,, this is before 2002, which - according to American intel, was when the military started seeing UAP's