British man fighting in Ukraine found dead in water

[Waspie_Dwarf]

British man fighting in Ukraine found dead in water

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A British man who went to fight for the International Legion in Ukraine was found dead in a body of water with his hands bound behind his back.

Jordan Chadwick, 31, from Burnley in Lancashire, served as a Scots guard in the British Army from 2011 to 2015.

His mother Brenda Chadwick said her family were "devastated" by the death of her son, who was known as Joe.

The Ukrainian International Army organised his repatriation on the 7 August.

An inquest to establish the cause of Mr Chadwick's death will be held in February.

Read More: BBC News

 

[Cho Jinn]

I'd be devastated as well.  But hey, it's for a good cause, right?

[Electric Scooter]

1 minute ago, Cho Jinn said:

I'd be devastated as well.  But hey, it's for a good cause, right?

It sons like he was taken prison then drowned.

Better death than having his balls cut off first I guess, but still not good.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

59 minutes ago, Electric Scooter said:

It sons like he was taken prison then drowned.

Better death than having his balls cut off first I guess, but still not good.

You are making some awfully big assumptions there. The report makes no mention of what, if any physical injuries there were. He could very well have been killed before being placed in the water.

[+and-then]

3 hours ago, Cho Jinn said:

I'd be devastated as well.  But hey, it's for a good cause, right?

As much as I despise the causes (on BOTH SIDES) for this bloodletting, I cannot fail to honor a man or woman who risks everything for their principles.  This guy wanted to serve, and he no doubt knew the risks.  I just hope they didn't tie him up and throw him in a river.  Drowning is a lot worse fate than a bullet to the brain.

2 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

You are making some awfully big assumptions there. The report makes no mention of what, if any physical injuries there were. He could very well have been killed before being placed in the water.

True, but having hands bound behind his back isn't something they'd need to do after he was dead.  My guess is he was tied up and dispatched with gunfire, like so many of those poor civilian souls, early in the conflict.  There should be a special place in hell for anyone so cowardly that they render a person totally vulnerable, then shoot them like they were a rabid dog.   

[Waspie_Dwarf]

3 minutes ago, and-then said:

.True, but having hands bound behind his back isn't something they'd need to do after he was dead.

Who said anything about his hands being tied up after he was dead?

4 minutes ago, and-then said:

My guess is he was tied up and dispatched with gunfire, like so many of those poor civilian souls, early in the conflict.

As much of an awfully big assumption as Electric Scooter made. To repeat myself:

2 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

The report makes no mention of what, if any physical injuries there were.

Speculation, with no supporting facts, is utterly pointless. There will be an inquiry into the cause of death so the macabre guessing game serves absolutely no purpose.

[jmccr8]

1 hour ago, and-then said:

As much as I despise the causes (on BOTH SIDES) for this bloodletting, I cannot fail to honor a man or woman who risks everything for their principles.  This guy wanted to serve, and he no doubt knew the risks.  I just hope they didn't tie him up and throw him in a river.  Drowning is a lot worse fate than a bullet to the brain.

True, but having hands bound behind his back isn't something they'd need to do after he was dead.  My guess is he was tied up and dispatched with gunfire, like so many of those poor civilian souls, early in the conflict.  There should be a special place in hell for anyone so cowardly that they render a person totally vulnerable, then shoot them like they were a rabid dog.   

Hi And then

Would you fight for the country you think you love or do you love it? No one here in the forum started this war Putin did and if your country was facing this situation on it's own ground I would be equally avid/supportive for your best interests.

Edited to add

Not just your personal interests but your whole disfunctional family meaning all Americans whether they agree with you or not

Edited September 9 by jmccr8

[jmccr8]

As for the Elon Musk. Some resources say that he closed the signal over Crimea even before the operation had started. So Ukrainian authorities asked him to cancel his decision but he refused.

But from other resources we got the information that he shut the signal down in the middle of the military operation.

Both of those variants are not making  Elon the best friend of Ukraine and from my own opinion he betrays the interests of the USA. Again again I could be wrong about US since I don’t live in .  But as for  I am sure about it.

[jmccr8]

 

[jmccr8]

The media reported that the United States is close to the decision to send long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine, the White House does not confirm this information.
▪️ABC News reported that ATACMS tactical ballistic missiles could allegedly be included in a new package of US military assistance to Ukraine; this issue is now under consideration by the US administration.
▪️The Biden’s administration does not confirm this information.

[Cho Jinn]

3 hours ago, and-then said:

As much as I despise the causes (on BOTH SIDES) for this bloodletting, I cannot fail to honor a man or woman who risks everything for their principles.

It's difficult to find anyone maintaining a set of principles - just look at this board - though I just wonder what exactly those would have been for this young man.  A commitment to democracy?  The conflict has nothing to do with it.  We need to contain a burgeoning Russian Empire?  Yeah, not really, they're drunk and mildly more productive than the State of California*.  "Supporting freedom"?  Murakhovsky would have had a word with you.  Did this guy simply have no commitments or responsibilities?  If either of my children at 31 are so bereft of purpose or obligation to family or career (or even country) to do something like this, I really f'ed up.

[Ajay0]

What a tragic loss of life. 

I have read of a number of western volunteers losing their lives in this tragic battle.

I have recently read articles of defense companies in the west reaping a lot of money from the war.  If this is the case, they are morally bound to provide for the families of these volunteers who have made the highest sacrifice. 

Hopefully, better sense will prevail and both sides will agree to cease-fire.

[Electric Scooter]

8 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

As for the Elon Musk. Some resources say that he closed the signal over Crimea even before the operation had started. So Ukrainian authorities asked him to cancel his decision but he refused.

But from other resources we got the information that he shut the signal down in the middle of the military operation.

Both of those variants are not making  Elon the best friend of Ukraine and from my own opinion he betrays the interests of the USA. Again again I could be wrong about US since I don’t live in .  But as for  I am sure about it.

Musk is careful only to provide services to support ordinary civilians in their lives.

The fact that the Ukrainian government keeps trying to suck him into the conflict is out of order. If they wont respect his wishes and I was him I would pull the internet service altogether. It makes Musk a target.

[spartan max2]

10 hours ago, Cho Jinn said:

It's difficult to find anyone maintaining a set of principles - just look at this board - though I just wonder what exactly those would have been for this young man.  A commitment to democracy?  The conflict has nothing to do with it.  We need to contain a burgeoning Russian Empire?  Yeah, not really, they're drunk and mildly more productive than the State of California*.  "Supporting freedom"?  Murakhovsky would have had a word with you.  Did this guy simply have no commitments or responsibilities?  If either of my children at 31 are so bereft of purpose or obligation to family or career (or even country) to do something like this, I really f'ed up.

Don't project your lack of principles onto others. I imagine it is hard for you to understand why so many people are fighting for their homes. 

For many people who travel there to fight it very much is a fight for democracy. If Ukraine loses they no longer have a democracy.

You need only look at which nations are helping Russia to see that it's clearly a fight against authoritarianism.

Edited September 9 by spartan max2

[Electric Scooter]

42 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

Don't project your lack of principles onto others. I imagine it is hard for you to understand why so many people are fighting for their homes. 

For many people who travel there to fight it very much is a fight for democracy. If Ukraine loses they no longer have a democracy.

You need only look at which nations are helping Russia to see that it's clearly a fight against authoritarianism.

I think you need to avoid projecting your idealisations onto other people.

For all you know, perhaps the guy just liked fighting.

[spartan max2]

19 minutes ago, Electric Scooter said:

I think you need to avoid projecting your idealisations onto other people.

For all you know, perhaps the guy just liked fighting.

Always possible. Not what the family thinks tho.

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"His passion to support freedom and assist others with his skills led him to leave the UK and travel to the Ukraine in early October 2022," she said

I'm sure you know him better than his family does 

Edited September 9 by spartan max2

[jmccr8]

17 hours ago, Electric Scooter said:

Musk is careful only to provide services to support ordinary civilians in their lives.

The fact that the Ukrainian government keeps trying to suck him into the conflict is out of order. If they wont respect his wishes and I was him I would pull the internet service altogether. It makes Musk a target.

Hi Cookie

If Musk cuts off the Ukraine because of the conflict then it would be prudent of him to cut off Russia as well. Russia started this conflict using false accusations and if Musk wants to take sides by inhibiting access to his services then he is no better than Putin.

[acidhead]

On 9/8/2023 at 2:33 PM, Waspie_Dwarf said:

British man fighting in Ukraine found dead in water

 

I'm curious where the "body of water" location is. The BBC link doesn't provide this information. 

[Unusual Tournament]

Both sides are seeing an influx of foreign fighters with suspect motives for joining a war that’s none of their business. Are they politically, economically or emotionally charged or just living out their blood lust fantasies? We’ll never know for sure

[Unusual Tournament]

X.

 

Edited September 11 by Unusual Tournament

[Alchopwn]

On 9/9/2023 at 7:33 AM, Waspie_Dwarf said:

British man fighting in Ukraine found dead in water

 

Orcs.

[Abramelin]

On 9/8/2023 at 11:33 PM, Waspie_Dwarf said:

British man fighting in Ukraine found dead in water

 

Respect.

He died for what he believed in, he died fighting Putin and his comrad rats.

Edited September 14 by Abramelin

[Cho Jinn]

On 9/10/2023 at 5:17 PM, Unusual Tournament said:

Both sides are seeing an influx of foreign fighters with suspect motives for joining a war that’s none of their business. Are they politically, economically or emotionally charged or just living out their blood lust fantasies? We’ll never know for sure

Being aimless is positively correlated with being dead.

[acidhead]

September 17, 2023  

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23994540/british-volunteer-jordan-chadwick-murdered-ukraine-brit-fighter/

A BRITISH volunteer in Ukraine was tortured and killed by a another Brit, investigators fear. 

The former Scots Guard served in a shadowy unit called 50/50 — attached to Ukraine’s GUR military intelligence.

His terrified comrades have named another British fighter as a prime suspect.

They claim Chadwick, from Burnley, was waterboarded and the water in his lungs was not the same as where he was found in Kramatorsk, around 20 miles from the Bakhmut front line.