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Fears cuts have been so severe RAF 'couldn't defend UK' in all-out war


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The government has been stunned to discover that cutting funding to public services leads to them performing less well. A Tory spokesman said "We always believed cutting back on public services so we could reward hard-working high-earners and Tory donors with tax cuts was what the public wanted. It's not our fault that the asylum system, the NHS, local authorities, and now the Armed Forces are now bankrupt. No one could have foreseen this result. We are now going to cut benefits to give more tax breaks to high earners to see what happens."

There are now “serious questions” about whether the country’s combat aircraft fleet could defend the UK in an all-out war.

Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has brought the cuts into “sharp focus”, according to Westminster’s Defence Committee.

The cross-party group of MPs warns the fleet is “just too small” to withstand the “levels of attrition” that would take place in major war.

Fears cuts have been so severe RAF 'couldn't defend UK' in all-out war | UK | News | Express.co.uk

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Thats the problem with many NATO countries. How many are spending at least 2% of their GDP as per agreement? Its "funny" to spend € on various "social" programs, while neglecting defence.

Basically, US are sponsoring lavish (kinda) life in Europe. Socialists morons should have it mind...

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2 hours ago, bmk1245 said:

Thats the problem with many NATO countries. How many are spending at least 2% of their GDP as per agreement? Its "funny" to spend € on various "social" programs, while neglecting defence.

Basically, US are sponsoring lavish (kinda) life in Europe. Socialists morons should have it mind...

Well, if we properly trash Russia, there won't be much call for military spending for quite some time, unless we also need to trash China.  F-ing commie dictators need to go.

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6 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

Well, if we properly trash Russia, there won't be much call for military spending for quite some time, unless we also need to trash China.  F-ing commie dictators need to go.

How well Western countries able to go full military production? 

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In an all-out war, they'd be lucky to have time to get into a plane.

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1 hour ago, Inn Spectre said:

In an all-out war, they'd be lucky to have time to get into a plane.

Good point, I'd say.

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3 hours ago, bmk1245 said:

How well Western countries able to go full military production? 

Presently it is a boom time for Western Armaments globally thanks to the Ukraine War.  Russia's share of the market has evaporated to the point where even India won't buy.  In the meantime, every major US and EU arms company is running at capacity and building new factories.  The USA has built at least 4 factories to manufacture 777mm artillery shells alone since the start of the war.  China is crapping its pants as it watches the USA and EU remilitarizing, as every military item China makes is substandard and obsolete, and now they have no access to decent processor chips, just like Russia as they are both sanctioned.  The economies of the West are awash with military spending and ramping up production to meet the threat of the new totalitarianism.

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2 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

Presently it is a boom time for Western Armaments globally thanks to the Ukraine War.  Russia's share of the market has evaporated to the point where even India won't buy.  In the meantime, every major US and EU arms company is running at capacity and building new factories.  The USA has built 4 factories to manufacture 777mm artillery shells since the start of the war.  China is crapping its pants as it watches the USA and EU remilitarizing, as every military item China makes is substandard and obsolete, and now they have no access to decent processor chips, just like Russia as they are both sanctioned.

Ok, what is the rate of shell production?

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Ok, what is the rate of shell production?

Millions per month afaik.  More factories being built too.  The USA is making sure that it is able to meet demand not only from Ukraine, but from the EU and its own military.  The 777 is a very popular artillery piece.

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12 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

Millions per month afaik.  More factories being built too.  The USA is making sure that it is able to meet demand not only from Ukraine, but from the EU and its own military.  The 777 is a very popular artillery piece.

Is that number real, or just wishful thinking?

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12 hours ago, pellinore said:

The government has been stunned to discover that cutting funding to public services leads to them performing less well. A Tory spokesman said "We always believed cutting back on public services so we could reward hard-working high-earners and Tory donors with tax cuts was what the public wanted. It's not our fault that the asylum system, the NHS, local authorities, and now the Armed Forces are now bankrupt. No one could have foreseen this result. We are now going to cut benefits to give more tax breaks to high earners to see what happens."

There are now “serious questions” about whether the country’s combat aircraft fleet could defend the UK in an all-out war.

Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has brought the cuts into “sharp focus”, according to Westminster’s Defence Committee.

The cross-party group of MPs warns the fleet is “just too small” to withstand the “levels of attrition” that would take place in major war.

Fears cuts have been so severe RAF 'couldn't defend UK' in all-out war | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Britain hasn`t had the manpower to fight an all out war since the late 1980s.

We have become complacent relying on NATO ever more to free up funding that gets sucked into other aspects of running a state. We do not run surpluses, we spend everything because we are a democracy where the electorate expects all spare money to be spent on public services.

The education budget needs halving, it needs to be driven by our economies need for various skills not giving people skills then hoping later on some positions for them all will emerge.

The NHS needs privatising and replacing with a healthcare benefit with fixed prices for low income households.

The prison budget needs cutting. Execute all serious offenders, and 3 strikes should also equal execution.

Finally we need to get our birth rate up.

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15 hours ago, bmk1245 said:

Thats the problem with many NATO countries. How many are spending at least 2% of their GDP as per agreement? Its "funny" to spend € on various "social" programs, while neglecting defence.

Basically, US are sponsoring lavish (kinda) life in Europe. Socialists morons should have it mind...

The UK spends significantly over the 2% target on defence.

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12 hours ago, bmk1245 said:

How well Western countries able to go full military production? 

Not well considering the production time of a tank, IPC, jet, or ship.

We can only scale up and mass produce guns and ammunition.

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16 hours ago, Setton said:

The UK spends significantly over the 2% target on defence.

"Significantly" thats how much?

Lets see

Top 10 NATO Countries with the Highest Defense Expenditures (by % of 2021 GDP)

Greece — 3.82%

United States — 3.52%

Croatia — 2.79%

United Kingdom — 2.29%

Estonia — 2.28%

Latvia — 2.27%

Poland — 2.10%

Lithuania — 2.03%

Romania — 2.02%

France — 2.01%

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Data for 2021, maybe in 2022/2023 Brits went over 5%... Who knows...

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On 9/10/2023 at 5:28 AM, Inn Spectre said:

In an all-out war, they'd be lucky to have time to get into a plane.

Here in Canada, why do we need fighters or even MBT. Maybe for training when we go bomb someone elsewhere ? Only real threat is the US going haywire and no way we will be able to stop them. Would be way better to invest in aerial firefighting and disaster relief.

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There are 5 UK soldiers manning a checkpoint.

An insurgent comes up and attacks. What do the soldiers do? Well only one got any bullets in his gun so its down to him. Unless they got lucky and bored some off an American.

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