Secret Service agent who was with JFK on day of his assassination breaks silence

[WVK]

A former Secret Service agent who was present at President John F. Kennedy's assassination has come forward with a new claim that would debunk the 'magic bullet' theory and raises questions about whether there was a second shooter.

Paul Landis, 88, broke his silence on Saturday, nearly 60 years after Kennedy was shot dead in a motorcade passing through Dallas, to share his bombshell recollection with the New York Times.  Landis, who in 1963 was a young Secret Service agent assigned to protect First Lady Jaqueline Kennedy, said that in the chaos following the shooting, he picked up a nearly pristine bullet sitting on the top of the back seat of the open limousine.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12500341/Paul-Landis-Secret-Service-JFK-assassination-magic-bullet.html

[+and-then]

I've been a recreational marksman for most of my life.  I enjoy target-shooting, especially the distance events like 400-600 yards, at the gun range.  While I have seen some exceptional shooters who use bolt-action rifles, I've never seen or even heard a second-hand account of one who could have cycled a bolt and fired two rounds in one second.  Leaving accuracy aside completely, cycling a bolt and depressing a trigger can be done that rapidly but the Warren Commission declared that he not only fired two shots in one second, but he also managed to keep his aimpoint on a target area roughly 12-18 inches across, that was 88 yards away, moving at 11 mph.  

While reviewing the nation-wide outpouring of grief in America at that time, it made me sad to think that half the nation today would be having parties if Trump was assassinated.  Imagine being in charge of his SS security detail  

[Trelane]

1 hour ago, and-then said:

I've been a recreational marksman for most of my life.  I enjoy target-shooting, especially the distance events like 400-600 yards, at the gun range.  While I have seen some exceptional shooters who use bolt-action rifles, I've never seen or even heard a second-hand account of one who could have cycled a bolt and fired two rounds in one second.  Leaving accuracy aside completely, cycling a bolt and depressing a trigger can be done that rapidly but the Warren Commission declared that he not only fired two shots in one second, but he also managed to keep his aimpoint on a target area roughly 12-18 inches across, that was 88 yards away, moving at 11 mph.  

While reviewing the nation-wide outpouring of grief in America at that time, it made me sad to think that half the nation today would be having parties if Trump was assassinated.  Imagine being in charge of his SS security detail  

Which half?

Don't try comparing Trump to JFK. The only thing they have in common is they both served as presidents. That's it.

[+and-then]

25 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Which half?

Don't try comparing Trump to JFK. The only thing they have in common is they both served as presidents. That's it.

The only comparison I made was about the reaction we'd see if the nation suffered another tragedy like this.  Asking which half is silly.  

[Trelane]

2 hours ago, and-then said:

The only comparison I made was about the reaction we'd see if the nation suffered another tragedy like this.  Asking which half is silly.  

Not really, the population that hates him that much that they would celebrate as you assert isn't half the country. So, I wanted to know where you came up with half.

The time periods are so vastly different, comparing possible reactions is useless.

Edited September 10 by Trelane

[Hawken]

JFK had powerful enemies because he wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve and pull troops from Vietnam.

JFK signed an order to bring troops home weeks before he was assassinated. But as we all know troops

remained in Vietnam until the 1970s. Seems that LBJ didn't follow thru with his order.

[Obviousman]

1. It's the Daily Fail.

2. Why didn't he speak out 60 years ago? Doesn't that make him derelict in his duties in not reporting it or testifying to the various Commissions?

3. How reliable is his memory after 60 years? The article even mentions his story differs now from that that he gave at the time.

Nah - some guy trying to sell a book. If he had actual evidence then it would be interesting but.....

[Alchopwn]

I never doubted it.  Bush Snr was behind it btw.  Everyone involved was sh!t terrified he'd do a deathbed confession.

[WVK]

5 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

I never doubted it.  Bush Snr was behind it btw.  Everyone involved was sh!t terrified he'd do a deathbed confession.

How about LBJ

 

[Alchopwn]

10 hours ago, WVK said:

How about LBJ

He was a beneficiary who in turn helped make Bush Snr's career.

[Megaro]

On 9/10/2023 at 9:32 PM, Hawken said:

JFK had powerful enemies because he wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve and pull troops from Vietnam.

JFK signed an order to bring troops home weeks before he was assassinated. But as we all know troops

remained in Vietnam until the 1970s. Seems that LBJ didn't follow thru with his order.

Perhaps you would post the actual signed order from President Kennedy ordering the withdrawal of all military personnel from Vietnam.   

[Tatetopa]

On 9/10/2023 at 12:29 PM, and-then said:

While reviewing the nation-wide outpouring of grief in America at that time, it made me sad to think that half the nation today would be having parties if Trump was assassinated.  Imagine being in charge of his SS security detail

NOPE.  ABSOLUTELY WRONG.  We want legal justice, not violence or death.  That is not America to most of us.  

Look to the MAGA crowd.  Steve Bannon and Roger Stone long ago said they were done with Trump.  They have the smarts and ambition to lead a movement but not the charisma. They needed another front man. Tucker Carlsen is laying the groundwork. They fancy themselves the true inheritors of the movement.  They have no use for Trump as a leader, they know he is incapable.  The staff people surrounding him had to coddle and spoon feed him, and still he screwed up.  But, they couldn't push him aside.  Still he would make a wonderful martyr for them, and they can take his place with 40 million followers.  You don't think with all of the Proud Boys,  former vets, and militia groups they couldn't find somebody that can make a 400-600 yard shot?  How many do you think would never question but blindly get in line behind them seeking revenge?   

[Obviousman]

I'll try taking the shot!

[+joc]

I'm quite sure that Mr. Landis was interrogated every which way in the days,  weeks, and even years following JFK's tragic death.  

But now...at age 88...he is 'breaking his silence'.  I don't think so.  Memory is a funny thing...especially when one is 88.  

[Dejarma]

On 9/11/2023 at 9:21 AM, Obviousman said:

Why didn't he speak out 60 years ago? Doesn't that make him derelict in his duties in not reporting it or testifying to the various Commissions?

yep!! money/ get paid for it BS probably.. but hey, what the fek do i know? 

[SHaYap]

At least now we know the "Magic" bullet was actually a "Super" bullet... 

~

[mrthink]

 has the bullet found on the gurney been thoroughly examined for its pristine claim  for any type of evidence i believe the authorities need to reopen this case and get experts in every field and perform every test available from a to z and release the findings to the public 

[Alchopwn]

On 9/11/2023 at 5:29 AM, and-then said:

While reviewing the nation-wide outpouring of grief in America at that time, it made me sad to think that half the nation today would be having parties if Trump was assassinated.

Don't you mean when Flordia Man gets his fat orange @ss murdered for being a back-talking b!tch to the White Brotherhood in jail?  That is hardly an "assassination" scenario.

Edited October 28 by Alchopwn

[Obviousman]

On 10/28/2023 at 2:32 AM, mrthink said:

 has the bullet found on the gurney been thoroughly examined for its pristine claim  for any type of evidence i believe the authorities need to reopen this case and get experts in every field and perform every test available from a to z and release the findings to the public 

It hasn't been re-opened because there is no credible evidence to back up other theories. Have a read of this book:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Case-Closed-Harvey-Oswald-Assassination/dp/1400034620

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CBS MORNINGS 
JFK single-bullet theory probed using latest forensics tech
cbs-mornings
BY AMANDA COCHRAN

NOVEMBER 11, 2013 / 1:37 PM / CBS NEWS

(CBS News) Father-and-son team Luke and Michael Haag have used the latest technology to re-examine the idea that one bullet hit President John F. Kennedy and Texas Gov. John Connally. The duo is featured on the PBS series "Nova" in a documentary called "Cold Case JFK."

Using 3D laser scanners -- a technology that's come into play in forensics in recent years -- the Haags documented the crime scene of Kennedy's assassination and their proposed trajectory of the single bullet in an effort to debunk popular conspiracy theories, such as the Grassy Knoll shooter theory, that have persisted in the case.

"(We can envision) crime scenes more thoroughly, more completely than we ever have had the capability to do. So we walk away from the crime scene with more information and we can then examine the crime scene over and over again later on, on a computer. So as we get new hypotheses, things about -- people talking about where a shooter might have been at a new revelatory type place, we can go in to that software, take some calculations, take measurements, angles, and it's all right there," Michael Haag said.

So what did they learn in their research? Luke Haag said it's "easily" demonstrable that one bullet can go through two people "if you understand how this particular unusual bullet behaves and what does after it leaves Kennedy's body."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jfk-single-bullet-theory-probed-using-latest-forensics-tech/

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[Trelane]

Hundreds of books. Dozens of documentaries. Three separate government investigations. Hundreds of nit thousands of interviews, statements, and "deathbed confessions". All of it has yielded nothing new that can definitively identify the conspirators or actual shooters(s).

All that has remained is Oswald. Stepping from the shadows if his lonely, pathetic life to take ****s at a president and take his place in history. It's hard for people to accept or understand how such a insignificant person could alter history by killing the mist powerful person in America.