McCarthy directs House to open formal impeachment inquiry into Biden’s involvement in Hunters Deals

[+OverSword]

4 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Everybody can form their own opinion without any reliance on evidence.  Immorality is not equivalent to being  convicted of a crime. Can either of these individuals be proven to have broken US laws? We still require a formal trial with evidence presented to ascertain guilt or innocence.  So far, only one trial has been completed.  We can conclude from his conviction that Donald Trump is guilty of sexual assault and defamation.  So far that is all that either of these guys has been found guilty of doing.

Immorality and behavior are plenty for me to decide my vote, but not legal consequences.

 

 

You’re not wrong and every reasonable person knows they’re both guilty. 

[Tatetopa]

36 minutes ago, OverSword said:

You’re not wrong and every reasonable person knows they’re both guilty. 

And that Is ok.  We should be able to make judgements like that for ourselves and act on them.  I do cling to the whole idea of the justice system being critical because I don't see much else we can believe in at the  moment.  We know we have some bad actors in all three branches, but I think the system is still better than any alternative and can be fixed.

[Gromdor]

1 hour ago, OverSword said:

You’re not wrong and every reasonable person knows they’re both guilty. 

I have to disagree.  Every reasonable person knows they're both probably guilty.  Truly reasonable people would let all the evidence be shown in a court of law before stating it as fact.  Because deciding they are guilty before that is pre-judgemental and not reasonable.

Edited September 18 by Gromdor

[itsnotoutthere]

 

[Gromdor]

48 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

 

Eh, that's legal in America.  $100,000.00 per plate dinner/fundraiser for Guillani? -legal.  Selling NFTs with your face on plagerized photos for millions- legal.  Getting a billion dollars from Saudis to manage their money- legal.  Selling millions in books (even if it is to a single guy/PAC)-legal.  $200,000.00 in speaking fees to show up at a political event?-legal. Having Saudis rent a whole floor in your hotel and not stay there while you are president-legal.

[Edumakated]

The simple question is what was Hunter Biden bringing to the table that warranted millions in compensation from foreign entities?   He has no real expertise in anything and a known crackhead...  

His only value was the access he granted to Joe...   anyone reasonable knows this to be true.

So the next question is what did these entities get in return from access to Joe?

[Doc Socks Junior]

4 minutes ago, Edumakated said:

The simple question is what was Hunter Biden bringing to the table that warranted millions in compensation from foreign entities?   He has no real expertise in anything and a known crackhead... 

Attorney with a JD from Yale, venture capitalist, banker...

And crackhead. That's important too.

4 minutes ago, Edumakated said:

His only value was the access he granted to Joe...   anyone reasonable knows this to be true.

Since you had no idea of the Crackhead's actual qualifications before making this statement, I would hesitate to confirm that you are indeed a reasonable observer.

Typically a reasonable observer spends at least 30 seconds Googling something.

4 minutes ago, Edumakated said:

So the next question is what did these entities get in return from access to Joe?

That's a good question. Seems like the only thing people have tried to make a thing is the Shokin firing, but various partisan investigations didn't find a "there" there.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

3 hours ago, Gromdor said:

Eh, that's legal in America.  $100,000.00 per plate dinner/fundraiser for Guillani? -legal.  Selling NFTs with your face on plagerized photos for millions- legal.  Getting a billion dollars from Saudis to manage their money- legal.  Selling millions in books (even if it is to a single guy/PAC)-legal.  $200,000.00 in speaking fees to show up at a political event?-legal. Having Saudis rent a whole floor in your hotel and not stay there while you are president-legal.

Yes, and isn’t the Orange Menace being investigated for that Saudi business?

[Edumakated]

2 hours ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

Attorney with a JD from Yale, venture capitalist, banker...

And crackhead. That's important too.

Since you had no idea of the Crackhead's actual qualifications before making this statement, I would hesitate to confirm that you are indeed a reasonable observer.

Typically a reasonable observer spends at least 30 seconds Googling something.

That's a good question. Seems like the only thing people have tried to make a thing is the Shokin firing, but various partisan investigations didn't find a "there" there.

A law degree by itself does not qualify someone to sit on a board, even if it is from Yale.  What companies you know are going to hire a dishonorably discharged guy with a known drug habit and zero experience in their industry to sit on their board and also compensate them millions of dollars?   There are plenty of people who are infinitely more qualified to choose from if business strategy and running a company was the goal.  However, if the goal was to get a prosecutor fired or possible change US policy, then I guess Hunter was the top choice. 

The "venture capital / banker" experience you speak of is when they started this grift.  The only thing Hunter brought to the table was the access to Joe.  Everyone knows it.  Even Hunter admitted it in an interview he did when this story first broke.  His business partners admitted it.  

Stop being naive.

[Doc Socks Junior]

3 minutes ago, Edumakated said:

A law degree by itself does not qualify someone to sit on a board, even if it is from Yale.  What companies you know are going to hire a dishonorably discharged guy with a known drug habit and zero experience in their industry to sit on their board and also compensate them millions of dollars?   There are plenty of people who are infinitely more qualified to choose from if business strategy and running a company was the goal.  However, if the goal was to get a prosecutor fired or possible change US policy, then I guess Hunter was the top choice.

You asked for his qualifications, chief.

As for a JD from Yale Law not qualifying someone to sit on a board, now you're being naive.

Do yourself a favor and peruse The Crackhead's Wikipedia page. It should help you figure out some of your questions. I know it'll sting to see his business experience and credentials, much of it while being a druggie, but he is the smartest guy Darth Tater knows.

3 minutes ago, Edumakated said:

The "venture capital / banker" experience you speak of is when they started this grift.  The only thing Hunter brought to the table was the access to Joe.  Everyone knows it.  Even Hunter admitted it in an interview he did when this story first broke.  His business partners admitted it.

I guess they started it in '96 when The Crackhead worked for a bank holding company? Again, you're asking questions without taking even a minor amount of time to learn details. 

Do yourself a favor and actually read the Devon Archer transcript.

3 minutes ago, Edumakated said:

  Stop being naive.

I would if I was, big shooter.

[+OverSword]

20 hours ago, Gromdor said:

I have to disagree.  Every reasonable person knows they're both probably guilty.  Truly reasonable people would let all the evidence be shown in a court of law before stating it as fact.  Because deciding they are guilty before that is pre-judgemental and not reasonable.

OJ was not guilty. You must agree. 

[Gromdor]

16 hours ago, OverSword said:

OJ was not guilty. You must agree. 

My favorite court case was how Kraft was found innocent because they couldn't use the video of him doing the dirty as evidence.

[Portre]

On 9/17/2023 at 5:44 PM, OverSword said:

You’re not wrong and every reasonable person knows they’re both guilty. 

Some unreasonable Republicons disagree.

Biden impeachment already collapsing as new evidence destroys GOP theories.

Freedom Caucus stalwart Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO) suggesting this whole thing is motivated more by "revenge" for former President Donald Trump's impeachments than any compelling evidence against Biden.

[Golden Duck]

23 hours ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

You asked for his qualifications, chief.

As for a JD from Yale Law not qualifying someone to sit on a board, now you're being naive.

Do yourself a favor and peruse The Crackhead's Wikipedia page. It should help you figure out some of your questions. I know it'll sting to see his business experience and credentials, much of it while being a druggie, but he is the smartest guy Darth Tater knows.

I guess they started it in '96 when The Crackhead worked for a bank holding company? Again, you're asking questions without taking even a minor amount of time to learn details. 

Do yourself a favor and actually read the Devon Archer transcript.

I would if I was, big shooter.

George Bush appointed Hunter to the Board of Amtrak to get access to Joe.

[Doc Socks Junior]

1 hour ago, Golden Duck said:

George Bush appointed Hunter to the Board of Amtrak to get access to Joe.

That's nothing, turns out Joe Biden was also running Reagan's DoJ as the junior Democratic senator from Delaware. What tangled webs we weave.

[Golden Duck]

7 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

That's nothing, turns out Joe Biden was also running Reagan's DoJ as the junior Democratic senator from Delaware. What tangled webs we weave.

Super villains always talk funny.

[DieChecker]

On 9/17/2023 at 6:27 PM, acidhead said:

Yup.  Hunter was the Biden Bag Man when Super Slow Joe was a coherent individual who dressed himself. It's as obvious as a male with a full beard in a dress who uses she/her pronouns. 

Myself, I dont even have a big problem with it. It would be that Joe's lied about it, hundreds of times, which I find to be the real impeachment issue. 

If we need to dig into every overseas transaction Hunter ever had, to prove/disprove this, then that's what needs to happen.

[+OverSword]

8 hours ago, Portre said:

Some unreasonable Republicons disagree.

Biden impeachment already collapsing as new evidence destroys GOP theories.

Freedom Caucus stalwart Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO) suggesting this whole thing is motivated more by "revenge" for former President Donald Trump's impeachments than any compelling evidence against Biden.

His family probably runs a bunch of shell LLC’s to launder their bribe money and is worried this could start a trend 

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

On 9/19/2023 at 8:52 AM, OverSword said:

OJ was not guilty. You must agree. 

OJ was not guilty, but TOTALLY responsible. 

[DieChecker]

To be a good citizen, I'm NOT going to do a little dance when Biden gets impeached. I'll just shake my head and mutter, "For shame... For shame...".

[Portre]

On 9/19/2023 at 5:59 PM, OverSword said:

His family probably runs a bunch of shell LLC’s to launder their bribe money and is worried this could start a trend 

Why change the subject to the POS POTUS?

[+OverSword]

10 minutes ago, Portre said:

Why change the subject to the POS POTUS?

Did not change the subject. Stated why some random Republican may not want the Biden’s looked into. 

[+and-then]

Fourth IRS Agent Says D.C. and CA Prosecutors Blocked Hunter Charges (breitbart.com)

And the hits just keep ooon comin'...

[Tatetopa]

31 minutes ago, and-then said:

Fourth IRS Agent Says D.C. and CA Prosecutors Blocked Hunter Charges (breitbart.com)

And the hits just keep ooon comin'...

Republicans say those guys can't be trusted and its a good thing they will never have guns.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

2 hours ago, and-then said:

Fourth IRS Agent Says D.C. and CA Prosecutors Blocked Hunter Charges (breitbart.com)

And the hits just keep ooon comin'...

Nothing to see here but hearsay.