Breaking: Scientists unveil pair of 'mummified alien' corpses to Mexico congress

[Nicolette]

6 hours ago, Tom1200 said:

Congratulations... on picking the one figurine (out of 15,000) that suits your argument.   Of course you could have picked

 or  or  or  but they wouldn't do much for your increasingly strained argument.  So fact-check: most ancient Japanese dogu figurines look nothing like those Peruvian figurines. 

I don't recall reading that bit online...  Are you using a newer version of Wikipedia for your ideas and information?

Do you recall this? from post #140: "I can't work out what Maussan's motivation is, or if he too has been duped."  When I wrote that I confess I didn't really appreciate what a liar and con-artist and fraud and fundamentally deceitful little sh!t this guy is.

Also - you're logic is flawed.  He could have stolen genuine mummies from an archaeological site and 'embellished' them afterwards to suit his twisted goals.

But stick to 30% DNA - you don't want an alien that's too alien!  And as a rule all advanced species anywhere are generally humanoid with two eyes, a nose and mouth.

Sorry.  I was going to overlook this particular rant.  But it's actually the single most illiterate, irrelevant, idiotic post in this thread so far, so deserves a special mention.

Yeah... im illiterate because thats the only way you can negate the actual llama mummy not having a single similarity to that one. Great skills of reasoning... moron. Actually i just noticed something. The xray with the eggs also shows two round things on the chest. It looks just like the apparatus on that figurine. Great find!

I would rather be illiterate than too retarded to decipher a picture or to grasp onto something idiotic and not in any way similar not to mention disproven by dna analysis like a llama because a nonsensical video told me to lmao but lets not be silly, you were the one that was too illiterate to read the articles comprehensively and comprehend what staments are the base facts and which are opinions. 

[Nicolette]

5 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Well. I don't think they needed to patch the skull together. Just needed to knock off the bits they didn't want. And as it says the skull was so deteriorated that it was very thin in several places. But then how did the soft tissues remain? Does bone deteriorate when skin does not? And it doesn't seem the finger/body bones have deteriorated. Hum?

The features are on the back of the skull, because that gave the elongated skull appearance, with a "face" on the flatter back. The mouth is where the spine would have entered the braincase. The x-rays seem to suggest the eyes were huge, but nearly flat. 

I'd point out that this need not have been made (though it possibly was) hundreds of years ago, but was made with preserved materials.

I've seem fake ancient documents, where the papyrus was real, and ancient, but the writing on it was modern. Same with parchment. Fakers use ancient parts/ingredients, and it can fool a C14 test.

It is interesting to me that the ancient Nazca civilization dissolved around 800 years ago, and mining in the area was a couple hundred years ago, and the diatoms in the mine are millions of years old, but the mummies are 1000 years old...

So after the Nazca, and before the Incas. Found in a modern mine, but preserved because of the product in the mine. If they are 1000 years old, where were they most of that time, when it's said it was the mine that preserved them? Unless the mine is ancient also, but I've not seen anyone even suggesting this.

If it had been me, I'd have made a better backstory. Maybe that they were found by conquistadors and placed in a cave, along with Spanish artifacts. Less loose ends.

What's interesting to me is that the peruvian government wants thier mummy back and all you can do is bicker about how it isn't real as if you have a clue. Have you tried telling them that?

[+DieChecker]

2 minutes ago, Nicolette said:

What's interesting to me is that the peruvian government wants thier mummy back and all you can do is bicker about how it isn't real as if you have a clue. Have you tried telling them that?

Do YOU have a clue? 

Sounds to me like your opinion is... "Because i say so", "I iz smart".

I've posted a half dozen links supporting these are fake. Many of them from Maussans own attempts to legitimize them.

What is your evidence? "Looks real to me"?

Edited September 23, 2023 by DieChecker

[+DieChecker]

10 minutes ago, Nicolette said:

It seems you failed to actually read the links successfully and comprehend the material. As well as every single thing i said.

So humor me. What is it you are trying to say? In a couple short sentences. So no one will be confused on your opinion.

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Wait i said it was a real what? Humor me, if i offered more than opinions and details given by media, you should be able to find it. It would do you a lot of good to begin to comprehend that linking agendized slander with wording that acknowledges that they are abjecting baseless opinions isnt equal to the evidence you keep talking about. 

The problem with that is few of the objections are baseless. Even Mr Maussan has said his first "mummies" were fakes. And made of human remains found in the hills and deserts around Nazca.

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But if you want evidence for me saying it doesnt look like a human or llama, try getting some glasses and looking at the pictures.

Myself, I don't trust my eyes. I go see what the world's opinions are. If it looks like a potato to me, but is 100% tested and actually a soy replica, I'm not going to insist it's a potato just because it looks that way. 

[+DieChecker]

2 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I’m laughing so hard at the moment.

Where are these links. First he says he posted them, and now he says he’ll post them later on tonight in one BIG group. 
 

Im so confused 

There in the thread. Individual posts.

I'm going to RE-post them, because I thought you wanted to read them, but are to stubborn to scroll back into the thread.

I was trying to be constructive and nice. 

[+DieChecker]

14 minutes ago, Nicolette said:

Wait so he stole it or he crafted it? Before you try to argue a point, please at least make up your mind what it is.

I think he did neither. The internet says these dolls can be bought all over Peru. So some native made them.

And I very much doubt he sneaked into a Peruvian government warehouse and stole them.

In both cases, money does these things for you.

He would be guilty of being in possession of stolen government property though.

I believe the mummies were taken from him, at one point, because he claimed they were real antiquities. And he still does. Peru stated they were made of bones and a paper product, but held onto them, as they contained human remains.

[+DieChecker]

Throwing out all my links. All Unusual Tournament's links. And other appropriate links in the thread.

 

The great preponderance online is suggesting these are fake. IMHO, for good reason. 

 

Here is the OP link.

https://abc7.com/mexico-aliens-corpses-ufos/13776957/

 

Still Waters link.

https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/alien-corpses-mexico-conspiracy-2665384991

 

Second of Unusual Tournaments links.https://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/alien-bodies-displayed-during-public-hearing-in-mexico-congress/amp_articleshow/103626618.cms

 

My video link (post #99) (page 4 not page 5, sorry)

Which shows numerous reasons these are fake and how they were faked.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/world/americas/alien-mummy-congress-mexico.html

Mummies From Outer Space? Mexico’s Congress Gets a Firsthand Look.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ufos-green-men-mexican-lawmakers-hear-testimony-existence-103166991

Scientists call fraud on supposed extraterrestrials presented to Mexican Congress

 

Posted by Tom.

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/are-there-aliens-in-mexico-why-scientists-have-called-fraud-on-extraterrestrial-corpses-13121622.html

 

And

https://www.404media.co/mexican-congress-alien-mummies-explained/

 

And

https://www.wired.com/story/mexico-congress-aliens-fake/

 

Another Still Waters link.

https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/this-is-complete-nonsense-scientists-rail-against-alien-bodies-shown-before-mexican-congress

 

I posted this link. Which is a decent transcript of what happened at the Mexican Congress. (Post 240)

 

 

Then I posted this. (Post 241)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355394217_Applying_CT-scanning_for_the_identification_of_a_skull_of_an_unknown_archaeological_find_in_Peru

Where JOSÉ DE LA CRUZ RÍOS LÓPEZ Was the first to claim it was a llama skull. But now backs Maussan.

 

And this link that provides all Mr Maussans scientific reports, including DNA tests.(Post 242)

https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/

 

And this link... (post 243)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/859016/Nazca-tomb-aliens-mummified-aliens-Peru-UFO-three-fingered

Where the Canadian university that did the DNA tests for Maussan say it's all fake. And all tests were 100% human. They don't say 30% unknown.

 

Unusual Tournament posted 

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/mummified-alien-corpses-are-from-single-skeletons-and-were-not-assembled-mexican-doctors-say-12964858

 

And

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/mexican-doctors-conclude-tests-on-alleged-nonhuman-alien-corpses/news-story/9ea5318c30072c37c9d2d2c7a4d32a1f

 

I posted thus link. (Post 315)

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/mexican-doctors-conclude-tests-on-alleged-nonhuman-alien-corpses/news-story/9ea5318c30072c37c9d2d2c7a4d32a1f

Peru is shocked and investigating.

 

I posted this link. 

Which goes into great detail on how these are llama skulls.

 

Basically if we look at the x-rays done in 2019, and how the anatomy isnt articulated. And then the DNA tests found online, and how they say 100% human. And that everyone Maussan brought with him is his close associate. And how there's a close correlation between the alien skulls and llama skulls. And how Maussan has put forward human remains before. And put forward nearly identically made items undoubtedly fake. And how he had to spring this on the Mexican Congress. And how Peru is investigating how the mummies were stolen...

The data is piling up that Maussan is a fraud, and a really a criminal.

 

I still have to go watch Mr Benitez's video. I'll look for that now.

 

Edit: Went back and looked at the links. And they speak ABOUT the testing done on Mondsy, buy no links to the Video for Media Proof that Benitez spoke of. 

 

Searched around a bit and found several videos with what appear to be pieces showing the abused stolen human remains going into a CT scan. And can't find that they did any other testing at all on Monday.

 

In all there's about 15 seconds of video showing the testing. So far as I've found.

 

Edited September 23, 2023 by DieChecker

[Saru]

Thread cleaned

Enough with the bickering and insults please - attack the points being presented, not the person who is presenting them.

[Unusual Tournament]

14 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Throwing out all my links. All Unusual Tournament's links. And other appropriate links in the thread.

 

The great preponderance online is suggesting these are fake. IMHO, for good reason. 

 

Here is the OP link.

https://abc7.com/mexico-aliens-corpses-ufos/13776957/

 

Still Waters link.

https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/alien-corpses-mexico-conspiracy-2665384991

 

Second of Unusual Tournaments links.https://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/alien-bodies-displayed-during-public-hearing-in-mexico-congress/amp_articleshow/103626618.cms

 

My video link (post #99) (page 4 not page 5, sorry)

Which shows numerous reasons these are fake and how they were faked.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/world/americas/alien-mummy-congress-mexico.html

Mummies From Outer Space? Mexico’s Congress Gets a Firsthand Look.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ufos-green-men-mexican-lawmakers-hear-testimony-existence-103166991

Scientists call fraud on supposed extraterrestrials presented to Mexican Congress

 

Posted by Tom.

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/are-there-aliens-in-mexico-why-scientists-have-called-fraud-on-extraterrestrial-corpses-13121622.html

 

And

https://www.404media.co/mexican-congress-alien-mummies-explained/

 

And

https://www.wired.com/story/mexico-congress-aliens-fake/

 

Another Still Waters link.

https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/this-is-complete-nonsense-scientists-rail-against-alien-bodies-shown-before-mexican-congress

 

I posted this link. Which is a decent transcript of what happened at the Mexican Congress. (Post 240)

 

 

Then I posted this. (Post 241)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355394217_Applying_CT-scanning_for_the_identification_of_a_skull_of_an_unknown_archaeological_find_in_Peru

Where JOSÉ DE LA CRUZ RÍOS LÓPEZ Was the first to claim it was a llama skull. But now backs Maussan.

 

And this link that provides all Mr Maussans scientific reports, including DNA tests.(Post 242)

https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/

 

And this link... (post 243)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/859016/Nazca-tomb-aliens-mummified-aliens-Peru-UFO-three-fingered

Where the Canadian university that did the DNA tests for Maussan say it's all fake. And all tests were 100% human. They don't say 30% unknown.

 

Unusual Tournament posted 

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/mummified-alien-corpses-are-from-single-skeletons-and-were-not-assembled-mexican-doctors-say-12964858

 

And

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/mexican-doctors-conclude-tests-on-alleged-nonhuman-alien-corpses/news-story/9ea5318c30072c37c9d2d2c7a4d32a1f

 

I posted thus link. (Post 315)

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/mexican-doctors-conclude-tests-on-alleged-nonhuman-alien-corpses/news-story/9ea5318c30072c37c9d2d2c7a4d32a1f

Peru is shocked and investigating.

 

I posted this link. 

Which goes into great detail on how these are llama skulls.

 

Basically if we look at the x-rays done in 2019, and how the anatomy isnt articulated. And then the DNA tests found online, and how they say 100% human. And that everyone Maussan brought with him is his close associate. And how there's a close correlation between the alien skulls and llama skulls. And how Maussan has put forward human remains before. And put forward nearly identically made items undoubtedly fake. And how he had to spring this on the Mexican Congress. And how Peru is investigating how the mummies were stolen...

The data is piling up that Maussan is a fraud, and a really a criminal.

 

I still have to go watch Mr Benitez's video. I'll look for that now.

 

Edit: Went back and looked at the links. And they speak ABOUT the testing done on Mondsy, buy no links to the Video for Media Proof that Benitez spoke of. 

 

Searched around a bit and found several videos with what appear to be pieces showing the abused stolen human remains going into a CT scan. And can't find that they did any other testing at all on Monday.

 

In all there's about 15 seconds of video showing the testing. So far as I've found.

 

The first 2 of your links have nothing to do the Maussan’s mummies. 
 

(Hint) there are many mummies in South America and in particular Peru. 
 

Not sure if this is a rookie mistake or you being disingenuous but Im not gonna waste anymore time on going through the rest. 

[Antigonos]

36 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:
 

(Hint) there are many mummies in South America and in particular Peru. 
 

No ****. How old were you when you figured that out?

As for the rest, keep tuning out reality

[Tom1200]

This topic: A Summary.

a)  Evidence suggesting these exhibits are genuine mummified aliens:

• Maussan says so.
• UT and PapaG believe him.
• They exist.  (At least that's not disputed?)
• Maussan says CT scans and DNA testing show they don't match any known terrestrial species.
• UT and PapaG believe that too.
• There are scores of 'news' articles reporting this as factual.
• People including Maussan testified under oath that they weren't telling porkies.

b)  Evidence suggesting these are NOT mummified aliens:

• Maussan is a liar and a fraud who's admitted faking exhibits very similar to this.
• CT scans appear to show most bones are extremely similar to human bones.
• CT scans appear to show the skull is from a South-American camelid, carved to reduce its size and rotated 180°.
• No meaningful DNA data has been presented to support Maussan's '30%' claim.
• Most news reports of this event are copy/paste clones with no original journalism, and no attempt to challenge extraordinary claims.
• No reputable scientist or news agency is on record as supporting Maussan's claims.
• People who testify under oath that they're telling the truth... might still be wrong, no matter how fervently they believe themselves correct.  Or they could just be lying on oath to push a particular agenda.

 

[Unusual Tournament]

7 minutes ago, Tom1200 said:

This topic: A Summary.

a)  Evidence suggesting these exhibits are genuine mummified aliens:

• Maussan says so.
• UT and PapaG believe him.
• They exist.  (At least that's not disputed?)
• Maussan says CT scans and DNA testing show they don't match any known terrestrial species.
• UT and PapaG believe that too.
• There are scores of 'news' articles reporting this as factual.
• People including Maussan testified under oath that they weren't telling porkies.

b)  Evidence suggesting these are NOT mummified aliens:

• Maussan is a liar and a fraud who's admitted faking exhibits very similar to this.
• CT scans appear to show most bones are extremely similar to human bones.
• CT scans appear to show the skull is from a South-American camelid, carved to reduce its size and rotated 180°.
• No meaningful DNA data has been presented to support Maussan's '30%' claim.
• Most news reports of this event are copy/paste clones with no original journalism, and no attempt to challenge extraordinary claims.
• No reputable scientist or news agency is on record as supporting Maussan's claims.
• People who testify under oath that they're telling the truth... might still be wrong, no matter how fervently they believe themselves correct.  Or they could just be lying on oath to push a particular agenda.

 

So basically Maussan is lying because you just said so?

[moonman]

2 hours ago, Antigonos said:

No ****. How old were you when you figured that out?

As for the rest, keep tuning out reality

Believers to a "T".

Also believers - "I want a long list of links already posted that refute what I believe and I will go through them I PINKY PROMISE hurry up and post it"

*long curated list posted, full of facts, figures, commentary, etc*

"I don't like the first link for some idiot reason so I'm ignoring the rest thanks for nothing loser"

Stupid motherduckers.

Hope you learned a lesson Diechecker - never spend any time on anything these morons ask for, they will just take a big dumb **** on it. I suspect you knew that would happen, though I commend you for the attempt either way. Maybe it will help someone who isn't completely braindead and bereft of common decency.

Edited September 24, 2023 by moonman

[+DieChecker]

8 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

The first 2 of your links have nothing to do the Maussan’s mummies. 
 

(Hint) there are many mummies in South America and in particular Peru. 
 

Not sure if this is a rookie mistake or you being disingenuous but Im not gonna waste anymore time on going through the rest. 

I clearly marked which were my posted links.

Maybe you mixed up my posts with some of the other posters. I tried to clearly mark which links were whos.

I made sure all the links contained a picture, or reference, that would link to these mummies.

I'll insert pictures from each link as proof.

This shouldn't be necessary if you'd actually read the linked materials.

First, your OP link.

https://abc7.com/mexico-aliens-corpses-ufos/13776957/

and a pic.

So far so good. Yeah?

Quote below edited to add pics for each of my links.

23 hours ago, DieChecker said:

My video link (post #99)

 

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100% these are the same mummies.

Note this also shows where in the video this is, because the video covers all Maussans fakes, not just the two shown in Mexico 

 

 

I posted this link. (Post 240)

 

This shouldn't need a picture in support. It's obviously based on the show at the Mexican Congress. 

 

 

Then I posted this. (Post 241)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355394217_Applying_CT-scanning_for_the_identification_of_a_skull_of_an_unknown_archaeological_find_in_Peru

 

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Clearly the same mummies.

 

 

And this link that provides all Mr Maussans scientific reports, including DNA tests.(Post 242)

https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/

 

Pics of the two Canadian reports.

 

 

And this link... (post 243)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/859016/Nazca-tomb-aliens-mummified-aliens-Peru-UFO-three-fingered

Where the Canadian university that did the DNA tests for Maussan say it's all fake. And all tests were 100% human. They don't say 30% unknown.

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Clearly the same mummies. 

 

 

I posted this link. (Post 315)

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/mexican-doctors-conclude-tests-on-alleged-nonhuman-alien-corpses/news-story/9ea5318c30072c37c9d2d2c7a4d32a1f

Clearly this link is regarding the mummies from the Mexican Congress showing. 

 

 

I posted this link. 

This uses the same report as post 241. Pic...

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So clearly the amateur mistake is you thinking I'd not follow up on your accusation.

Edited September 24, 2023 by DieChecker

[+DieChecker]

Note: The DNA studies done in Canada (That Maussan says show 30% unknown) were initiated by Thierry Jamin, as seen in the pics of the reports.

I've got them both downloaded, in case any other questions arise. 

Also note, Maussan specifically said the DNA was from the brain and hand, which matches this reports samples.

Thierry made the request when hevwas working on these little dummies in Peru in 2016 to 2019.

https://www.thierryjamin.com/investigations/

Click on 2016-2019 button. 

clearly the same mummies.

So, appears Mr Jamin is the sourse of the "Unknown DNA"  claim. Not a scientist, or doctor, or expert of any type, but a fraudster adventurer.

Dude has a wiki page.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Jamin

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Thierry Jamin (French: [tieʁi ʒamɛ̃]; born 19 December 1967) is a French explorer and pseudohistorian known for his research about Paititi and the presence of the Incas and pre-Inca civilization in the Amazonian rainforest.

 

Edited September 24, 2023 by DieChecker

[Unusual Tournament]

46 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I clearly marked which were my posted links.

Maybe you mixed up my posts with some of the other posters. I tried to clearly mark which links were whos.

I made sure all the links contained a picture, or reference, that would link to these mummies.

I'll insert pictures from each link as proof.

This shouldn't be necessary if you'd actually read the linked materials.

First, your OP link.

https://abc7.com/mexico-aliens-corpses-ufos/13776957/

and a pic.

So far so good. Yeah?

Quote below edited to add pics for each of my links.

So clearly the amateur mistake is you thinking I'd not follow up on your accusation.

I know what I posted. I don’t need you to repost them. I want you to just simply post your proof they are fakes. That’s all. Post your link and walk away. Is that so hard?

[+DieChecker]

This was kind of interesting. 

https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/htm/nazcamummies.htm

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Jaime Maussan, a Mexican journalist who has been promoting UFOs and aliens largely based on hoaxes and misinterpretation, is the first journalistic source of a news item he told about in a Press conference, a news item first published on the gaia.com website and then copied - sometimes with expressed skepticism - on many websites.

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One Thierry Jamin, from France, is shown, introduced as an archaeologist and historian, "President of the Inkari Institute" - he just says he investigates.

So clearly they've worked together on this from the start. 

Yep, clearly the same mummies.

Here's the part I found real interesting.

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We get an interview of Thierry Jamin, who tells of his discoveries of ancient cities in Peru. We learn that he heard about the "Nazca mummy" by a man named "Mario" who had alreeady made some archeological findings in the Cusco area and Nazca in Peru.

Jaime Maussan tells that "Mario" found sarcophaguses in the tomb. The first one had objects in it and in the second one he found "two small bodies, or two medium sized bodies, and many little bodies, the big body was outside the sarcophagus." We learn that Mario thinks he only explorer 10% of the site and is afraid someone who hears about it would steal the stuff.

So some local "found" them in the mine, which they repeatedly call a tomb.

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Case summary:
The "extraterrestrial mummies" by Paul Ronceros aka "Krawix" had begun to be shown on Youtube by his homemade videos from October 2016 on. These "extraterrestrial mummies" are made of bone remains from humans and animals, mixed together, and parts of clay when there are no real bones that were suitable for the heads, pelvis. The result was "beings" of humanoid appearance without credible anatomical organization, because many of the bones did not fit together and the opcity of the clay parts showed on the X-ray images. The human remains he used are probably archaeological.

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The hoax not working too well, Ronceros quit.

Thierry Jamin, who was likely in the country, heard about it, and accordingly started his "Alien Project" to collect funds for DNA analysis and Carbon dating, he said.

Then came journalist Jaime Maussan, credulous enthusiast of all "extraterrestrial" stuff, presenting the case in a Press conference. He set up a "science team" made up essentially of people known in the realms of pseudo-sciences. None of the "analyzes", the sources of which are not given, prove anything extraordinary: the datings are in conformity with those of authentic human remains that can be found in the region. No "DNA analysis" presented shows anything extraterrestrial, on the contrary, the only result given is that the biggest mummy is a woman.

The "small" mummies are vaguely shown with "reptilian" skin, but no analysis at all is published. Skin of ordinary dead reptiles was certainly used.

In fact, Ronceros, seeing his dead hoax publicized again, simply improved his art, making his "extraterrestrial mummies" a little more "credible." And those who re-broadcast the case carefully avoided mentioning that the source of the "mummies" is Paul Ronceros, and refrained from showing the poorly made, earliest "mummies" made by Ronceros.

Apparently there's YouTube videos by this Ronceros guy. I'll look into it.

Found this...

A screen shot...

Looks like he took the heads off a lot of them. 

Yep, that's one of our boys right there. And it says published Sep2 2017.

Here dude out and out says he made the stuff that was found.

 

 

Edited September 24, 2023 by DieChecker

[+DieChecker]

7 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I know what I posted. I don’t need you to repost them. I want you to just simply post your proof they are fakes. That’s all. Post your link and walk away. Is that so hard?

Did that.

DNA report says 100% human.

X-rays show non-articulated bones.

CT scan shows skull matches a carved up llama skull. Nearly exactly.

[Unusual Tournament]

5 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Did that.

DNA report says 100% human.

X-rays show non-articulated bones.

CT scan shows skull matches a carved up llama skull. Nearly exactly.

How can it be 100% human if it has a llamas head?

[+DieChecker]

Here is video of the dude (from 2016) before the mummies were found (May 2017) showing he MADE a Alien that's like 90% the same as the Mexican Congress mummies.

Busted.

The head and body are nearly identical. Just a bit more roughly constructed.

Looks like another altered llama skull to me.

 

And another video.

This one from APRIL 2017. A month before Jamin and Maussan "found" their mummies.

Nearly identical.

Edited September 24, 2023 by DieChecker

[+DieChecker]

33 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

How can it be 100% human if it has a llamas head?

Because they didn't test the skull. Just the skin and whatever he put inside the head.

Heck he just sent samples, so could have been anything in the sample containers. No scientific rigor was used in any of this.

The llama skull was already deteriorating, so unlikely anyway to get much DNA from it, unless you ground up a pretty big piece.

The DNA is 100% human. These dolls were constructed, from actual mummified human remains.

I just posted a video by a guy who in 2017 said he was making these. And a video from 2016 of him making another one. A year before these two mummies in question were supposedly found. He admits using animal skulls because he couldn't find human skulls small enough.

Edited September 24, 2023 by DieChecker

[+DieChecker]

My thanks to @Unusual Tournament@Nicolette and @papageorge1 for inspiring my research into this fun subject.

Edited September 24, 2023 by DieChecker

[Antigonos]

2 hours ago, DieChecker said:

My thanks to @Unusual Tournament@Nicolette and @papageorge1 for inspiring my research into this fun subject.

I’m hearing crickets.

Nothing silences loud ignorance better than solid facts and research

Good job my friend. 

[Unusual Tournament]

3 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Because they didn't test the skull. Just the skin and whatever he put inside the head.

Heck he just sent samples, so could have been anything in the sample containers. No scientific rigor was used in any of this.

The llama skull was already deteriorating, so unlikely anyway to get much DNA from it, unless you ground up a pretty big piece.

The DNA is 100% human. These dolls were constructed, from actual mummified human remains.

I just posted a video by a guy who in 2017 said he was making these. And a video from 2016 of him making another one. A year before these two mummies in question were supposedly found. He admits using animal skulls because he couldn't find human skulls small enough.

What did Maussan put inside the llama’s head?

[XenoFish]

I love how all most all modern aliens are some variation of The Outer Limits ones.

Shows the very memetic nature of an idea.