Breaking: Scientists unveil pair of 'mummified alien' corpses to Mexico congress

[Piney]

1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

If I remember correctly the reason he didn't post it was due to personal info. 

As stated in the original thread. Then he claimed he was going to email her.

[papageorge1]

5 minutes ago, Piney said:

I seem to recall you were the only one claiming a unedited version,  actually calling me a liar and going to email Mary Jesse personally. 

How did that work out? 

Sounds like quite a distortion of the events.

 

[Piney]

Just now, XenoFish said:

Coming from her it actually doesn't surprise me.

I was administering vaccines for the AFSC so I'm a child murderer anyway. 

[Piney]

1 minute ago, papageorge1 said:

Sounds like quite a distortion of the events.

Sounds like projection.

So did you email her, the one actual scientist like you claimed you would? 

[papageorge1]

21 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

If I remember correctly the reason he didn't post it was due to personal info. 

I recall non-transparency from the start. One might theorize a reason.

[papageorge1]

37 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said:

Well you constantly talk about the corruption and bias of actual scientists from what you imagine to be their essentially religious devotion to 'materialism', funny how you can't seem to imagine any potential biases in scientists who just happen to agree with you.

I don’t blindly accept anybody.

Even fair consideration of people who  support non-materialist ideas might get mistranslated as blind acceptance by those with a materialist bent.

[+Liquid Gardens]

10 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I don’t blindly accept anybody.

But your skepticism of scientists is not equal.  

The article says, "Maussan said it was a clear demonstration that the presented bodies were non-human specimens, and that researchers could prove that the DNA of the two mummies did not belong to human beings.".  Since you've been following this story for years then where is this proof that the DNA did not belong to humans?  What's your excuse as to why that hasn't been provided to the scientific community yet after years now?  Actual scientists usually present their findings to other scientists first for review, not to the public, have they done that?

 

Edited September 13 by Liquid Gardens

[Tom1200]

How come nobody has picked up on this? from the OP:

"Maussan went on to claim that 30 percent of the DNA of these entities was 'unknown'."

So 70% of the DNA of these hitherto unknown aliens IS known?  By whom exactly?

9 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I don’t blindly accept anybody.

The PapaOmeterOmeter rates this sentence as:

• 25% REALLY???
• 40% Self-delusional
• 20% Cruel deception  
• Fish% Nebuchadnezzar 

[Unusual Tournament]

specimen were recently studied at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, where scientists were able to draw DNA evidence using radiocarbon dating. The small mummified specimen, retrieved from Cusco, Peru, are believed to be 1,000-years old. 

Maussan said that DNA retrieved from the specimen were compared to other DNA samples and it was revealed that over 30% of the specimens’ DNA was “unknown”.
 

https://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/alien-bodies-displayed-during-public-hearing-in-mexico-congress/amp_articleshow/103626618.cms

 

 

[Piney]

9 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said:

But your skepticism of scientists is not equal.  

The article says, "Maussan said it was a clear demonstration that the presented bodies were non-human specimens, and that researchers could prove that the DNA of the two mummies did not belong to human beings.".  Since you've been following this story for years then where is this proof that the DNA did not belong to humans?  What's your excuse as to why that hasn't been provided to the scientific community yet after years now?  Actual scientists usually present their findings to other scientists first for review, not to the public, have they done that?

 

UFO Watchdog.com,  'Jamie Maussan' by Roy Meyers 

[Unusual Tournament]

The National Autonomous University of Mexico (Spanish: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, UNAM) is a publicresearch university in Mexico. It is widely regarded as a top research university in Latin America.
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Autonomous_University_of_Mexico

[Unusual Tournament]

ray’s of the bodies were also shown during the hearing, as experts said under oath that one of the bodies had ”eggs” inside and that both had implants made of extremely rare metals, including Osmium.
 

https://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/alien-bodies-displayed-during-public-hearing-in-mexico-congress/amp_articleshow/103626618.cms

[+Liquid Gardens]

3 minutes ago, Piney said:

UFO Watchdog.com,  'Jamie Maussan' by Roy Meyers 

Wow, thanks, so not the first time trying to get actual evidence for his claims leads nowhere.

[Unusual Tournament]

6 minutes ago, Piney said:

UFO Watchdog.com,  'Jamie Maussan' by Roy Meyers 

Maussan was in attendance, so?

[Piney]

7 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

specimen were recently studied at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, where scientists were able to draw DNA evidence using radiocarbon dating. The small mummified specimen, retrieved from Cusco, Peru, are believed to be 1,000-years old. 

Maussan said that DNA retrieved from the specimen were compared to other DNA samples and it was revealed that over 30% of the specimens’ DNA was “unknown”.
 

https://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/alien-bodies-displayed-during-public-hearing-in-mexico-congress/amp_articleshow/103626618.cms

 

 

So where's the actual university press release of the study? 

[Piney]

Just now, Unusual Tournament said:

Maussan was in attendance, so?

Where's the university press release of the study? 

[Unusual Tournament]

10 minutes ago, Tom1200 said:

How come nobody has picked up on this? from the OP:

"Maussan went on to claim that 30 percent of the DNA of these entities was 'unknown'."

So 70% of the DNA of these hitherto unknown aliens IS known?  By whom exactly?

The PapaOmeterOmeter rates this sentence as:

• 25% REALLY???
• 40% Self-delusional
• 20% Cruel deception  
• Fish% Nebuchadnezzar 

The specimens were study by the National Autonomous University of Mexico not Maussan. Maussan was just in a attendance 

[Unusual Tournament]

1 minute ago, Piney said:

So where's the actual university press release of the study? 

Stop embarrassing yourself 

[Piney]

3 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Stop embarrassing yourself 

That's what your doing.

Maussan has been carrying these things around for some time and presented them himself. All the statements so far have come from him alone.

 

Edited September 13 by Piney
brain fart

[papageorge1]

21 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said:

But your skepticism of scientists is not equal.  

The article says, "Maussan said it was a clear demonstration that the presented bodies were non-human specimens, and that researchers could prove that the DNA of the two mummies did not belong to human beings.".  Since you've been following this story for years then where is this proof that the DNA did not belong to humans?  What's your excuse as to why that hasn't been provided to the scientific community yet after years now?  Actual scientists usually present their findings to other scientists first for review, not to the public, have they done that?

 

First of all where did I say I accept this as certainty and without healthy normal skepticism?

Back to my point of any respect given to supporters of novel material (paranormal, alien, cryptozoological) gets mistranslated by the Skeptics (capital 'S') as blind acceptance.

[papageorge1]

55 minutes ago, Piney said:

Sounds like projection.

So did you email her, the one actual scientist like you claimed you would? 

It wasn't just one actual scientist but multiple involved. No, I did not e-mail anyone as I thought their own presentation was clear enough to me. I did consider doing so but never did. Despite people trying to marry me with this, it is actually just a side interest of mine. I saw enough to suspect the lady was sincere.

[Piney]

9 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Stop embarrassing yourself 

Oh, Maussan presented these several years ago. They were x-rayed by Mary Jesse at the University of Colorado and shown to be gaffes.

[Unusual Tournament]

3 minutes ago, Piney said:

That's what your doing.

Maussan has been carrying these things around for some time and presented them himself. All the statements so far have come from him alone.

 

I’m just going on facts. There were 6 mummies found in that pit 4 human and the 2 that were presented to the Mexican authorities. Maussan  is linked to the 4 human ones. He made a claim they were all alien at the time. That’s the extent of Maussan’s involvement to my knowledge. 
 

If the National Autonomous University of Mexico says those 2 presented things have 30% unknown DNA then that’s what I’m gonna assume. If a peer reviewed study says different then I’m gonna question the results of the National Autonomous University of Mexico until then my mind is open on the matter. 
 

Im happy for you to present evidence to the contrary 

[Piney]

Just now, Unusual Tournament said:

I’m just going on facts. There were 6 mummies found in that pit 4 human and the 2 that were presented to the Mexican authorities. Maussan  is linked to the 4 human ones. He made a claim they were all alien at the time. That’s the extent of Maussan’s involvement to my knowledge. 
 

If the National Autonomous University of Mexico says those 2 presented things have 30% unknown DNA then that’s what I’m gonna assume. If a peer reviewed study says different then I’m gonna question the results of the National Autonomous University of Mexico until then my mind is open on the matter. 
 

Im happy for you to present evidence to the contrary 

I just did above and there is a thread here on the Peruvian Mummies which discuss the X-rays.

[Unusual Tournament]

5 hours ago, Still Waters said:

'Alien corpses' unveiled in Mexico linked to 5-year-old 'hoax'

However, whilst hordes of UFO fanatics rejoiced in the “proof” of alien existence, others were more sceptical about the origins of the two corpses.

They argue that they are just two of six fossilized specimens that were found inside a mine near UNESCO's Nazca Line heritage site back in 2017.

Maussan swiftly became involved in the investigation surrounding the discovery, insisting that researchers had uncovered irrefutable proof that “these creatures were not from this Earth”.

However, DNA samples taken from both the hand and brain tissue from one of the specimens were found to be 100 per cent human, according to a report from the Paleo DNA laboratory at Lakehead University, Canada.

Furthermore, the mummies’ bizarre appearance led some experts to believe that the remains could have been tampered with to make them look more alien.

https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/alien-corpses-mexico-conspiracy

So 1000 years ago the ancients wanted to perpetuate a hoax also. Amazing