moonman Posted September 13, 2023 #101 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: The correct quote is “non terrestrial”. Nothing about the metal is non terrestrial. It's very, very terrestrial. I just learned that osmium isn't even expensive. They use it to make pens. The fact that it is also used in satellites is pointless, these fools just say that to make it sound high tech and spooky Edited September 13, 2023 by moonman 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 13, 2023 #102 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Just another nothing burger. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 13, 2023 Author #103 Share Posted September 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, moonman said: Nothing about the metal is non terrestrial. It's very, very terrestrial. I just learned that osmium isn't even expensive. They use it to make pens. Never said the metal was non terrestrial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted September 13, 2023 #104 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Never said the metal was non terrestrial Good. To claim it isn't from earth is moronic. Edited September 13, 2023 by moonman 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 14, 2023 Author #105 Share Posted September 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, moonman said: Good. To claim it isn't from earth is moronic. BTW, It’s the DNA they’re referring to not the rare metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 14, 2023 #106 Share Posted September 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, moonman said: Good. To claim it isn't from earth is moronic. You'll find that much of the manure that UT shovels around here fits that category precisely. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted September 14, 2023 #107 Share Posted September 14, 2023 48 minutes ago, DieChecker said: I found this video... It's not in English, but is dubbed. But it points out all the things wrong with these mummies. Here is a screen cap showing how they turned an alpaca skull into the aliens head. Amazing how these aliens heads exactly match an alpaca skull turned around and with the extraneous parts chopped off. This is what I'm talking about when I say...the only proof of an Alien will be when we see one, and it is scientifically verified to be not of this Earth by peer reviewed scientists all over the planet. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 14, 2023 Author #108 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, XenoFish said: Just another nothing burger. Don’t think you are in a position to make that claim, at least not yet. They offered these things to University scientists to evaluate. Not something you associate with a scam or etc. Maussan has made a claim that hasn’t been rejected by the said scientists. Edited September 14, 2023 by Unusual Tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 14, 2023 Author #109 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, moonman said: Good. To claim it isn't from earth is moronic. Your tone and context is different to what you previously wrote. I’m confused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted September 14, 2023 #110 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Don’t think you are in a position to make that claim, at least not yet. They offered these things to University scientists to evaluate. Not something you associate with a scam or etc. Maussan has made a claim that hasn’t been rejected by the said scientists. Nobody has looked at it because Mr. MauFraud charges them to look at it - or so I have heard. Makes sense, though. That's how he's grifting this, and that's why nobody independent has verified anything directly. Nobody is going to pay a known scammer to look at what they already believe is fake. You don't get to be a respected scientist by being a sucker. He can "publish" all the DNA he wants, it's still just a computer file that could be created to say whatever. Nothing less than an independent (more than one preferably) directly pulling and testing a DNA sample on their own means anything - and with a multi-time scammer at the helm asking for pay-to-play, this will likely never happen. On top of that, it needs to be dissected, at least partially. All it takes to know this is BS is to watch the video breakdown about the jumbled/backwards/sawed bones with no joints and a stick jammed down the rib-spiked spine topped with half a backwards llama skull with no jaw. You don't need to be a genius or scientist to understand what is laid out. I really don't understand how anybody can handwave that video away, it does a spectacular job of pointing out all the BS in simple terms. Edited September 14, 2023 by moonman 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted September 14, 2023 #111 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Nicolette said: I think that is what determined it to be not fully human. I think the removal of non-terrestrial alloy implants is what points to not terrestrial. If I recall, they said that the implant was a rare earth metal, but that does not make it from some other planet. what they should do is check the isotope ratios to see if it is from this planet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 14, 2023 Author #112 Share Posted September 14, 2023 More about the tests. Statement released by UNAM The Institute of Physics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM) issues today, September 13, 2023, the statement published in 2017, derived from the same situation that now once again occupies media attention. Following the information disseminated on social networks and other media, about the dating of mummies from Peru, by the National Laboratory of Mass Spectrometry with Accelerators (LEMA), the Institute of Physics C O M U N I C A the next: In May 2017, LEMA carried out a Carbon14 dating study on a set of samples that, according to the information provided by the client, were skin and brain tissue of approximately 0.5 grams, the results of which were issued in June of the same year and delivered to the user who requested it. As it is a commercial agreement, these results are confidential and no member of the LEMA can disseminate them. The carbon 14 dating work carried out at LEMA is only intended to determine the age of the sample brought by each user and in no case do we make conclusions about the origin of said samples. The members of LEMA do not carry out any type of sampling nor do they come into contact with the original source of the sample in situ. The LEMA disclaims any subsequent use, interpretation or misrepresentation made with the results it issues. In the case of the June 2017 analysis, any information that implies the participation of LEMA in any activity other than Carbon 14 dating is completely valid. Sincerely, Members of the LEMA Institute of Physics Cd. Universitaria, Mexico, D.F. as of September 12, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 14, 2023 Author #113 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Still, Mr. Maussan’s presentation stunned many in scientific circles in Mexico. After images of the mummies began circulating, the Institute of Physics at the National Autonomous University of Mexico released a statement making it clear that its researchers had never examined the specimens themselves but had merely done carbon testing in 2017 on skin samples provided by a client. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/world/americas/alien-mummy-congress-mexico.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted September 14, 2023 #114 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Still, Mr. Maussan’s presentation stunned many in scientific circles in Mexico. After images of the mummies began circulating, the Institute of Physics at the National Autonomous University of Mexico released a statement making it clear that its researchers had never examined the specimens themselves but had merely done carbon testing in 2017 on skin samples provided by a client. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/world/americas/alien-mummy-congress-mexico.html So they were given samples from god knows what (a real human mummy probably) and didn't collect them directly. This makes the whole thing more legit...how, exactly? Edited September 14, 2023 by moonman 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 14, 2023 Author #115 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, moonman said: So they were given samples from god knows what (a real human mummy probably) and didn't collect them directly. This makes the whole thing more legit...how, exactly? Didn’t say it was legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted September 14, 2023 #116 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Didn’t say it was legit. Maybe you should be clear on your stance then. You are all over the map, copy-pasting a lot of conflicting ideas, arguing for then against. Given, it does take a lot of backflips and fakeouts to defend this nonsense. Logic and common sense are not on the side of anybody believing in these "alien mummies". Edited September 14, 2023 by moonman 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 14, 2023 Author #117 Share Posted September 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, moonman said: Maybe you should be clear on your stance then. You are all over the map, copy-pasting a lot of conflicting ideas, arguing for then against. Given, it does take a lot of backflips and fakeouts to defend this nonsense. Logic and common sense is not on the side of anybody believing in these "alien mummies". Well I consider myself a bit of a detective, looking for anomalies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted September 14, 2023 #118 Share Posted September 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Well I consider myself a bit of a detective, looking for anomalies. Cool story bro. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted September 14, 2023 #119 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said: Well I consider myself a bit of a detective, looking for anomalies. You aren't a very good detective. Detectives are not looking for anomalies. Detectives are looking for the truth. If you want the truth. Bring together a scientific team of experts in their field with no axe to grind one way or the other. Let them and anyone else in the scientific community do experiments on the mummies. Everything transparent. Everything peer reviewed. That won't happen...do you know why? Because the mummies are fake. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 14, 2023 Author #120 Share Posted September 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, joc said: You aren't a very good detective. Detectives are not looking for anomalies. Detectives are looking for the truth. If you want the truth. Bring together a scientific team of experts in their field with no axe to grind one way or the other. Let them and anyone else in the scientific community do experiments on the mummies. Everything transparent. Everything peer reviewed. That won't happen...do you know why? Because the mummies are fake. We don’t know that for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted September 14, 2023 #121 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Unusual Tournament said: We don’t know that for sure We as in 'you'. Some of us do know that for sure. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 14, 2023 Author #122 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, joc said: We as in 'you'. Some of us do know that for sure. Ahh, an expert. Please to meet you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted September 14, 2023 #123 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, Unusual Tournament said: Ahh, an expert. Please to meet you Did you watch the video? It's all there. But all you really need to do is figure out which group you are in, that's all. Pick a group from the list below: 1. You can fool some of the people all of the time. 2. You can fool all of the people some of the time. 3. You can't fool all of the people all of the time. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted September 14, 2023 #124 Share Posted September 14, 2023 13 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: How does declaring that 30% of the DNA is "unknown" automatically make it "Alien" DNA? Because you have to prove it's not DNA from aLIEnz. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Abramelin Posted September 14, 2023 Popular Post #125 Share Posted September 14, 2023 On Wednesday, Julieta Fierro, researcher at the Institute of Astronomy at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, was among those to express skepticism, saying that many details about the figures “made no sense.” Fierro added that the researchers' claims that her university endorsed their supposed discovery were false, and noted that scientists would need more advanced technology than the X-rays they claimed to use to determine if the allegedly calcified bodies were “non-human”. “Maussan has done many things. He says he has talked to the Virgin of Guadalupe,” she said. “He told me extraterrestrials do not talk to me like they talk to him because I don’t believe in them.” The scientist added that it seemed strange that they extracted what would surely be a “treasure of the nation” from Peru without inviting the Peruvian ambassador. https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ufos-green-men-mexican-lawmakers-hear-testimony-existence-103166991 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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