NASA releases its 33-page report on yearlong study into UAPs

[UM-Bot]

A media briefing earlier today outlined the findings in the report as well as what it could all mean for the future of UFO research.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/370275/nasa-releases-its-33-page-report-on-yearlong-study-into-uaps

[Guyver]

So, we don’t know what they are but they’re not aliens.  OK then, mystery solved.  Sigh. I guess that leaves advanced humans and/or their tech from the future.  Or, secret tech so secret the government doesn’t even know about it.  That….or they’re just not telling and this whole thing is a fabricated cover story.

[+joc]

1 hour ago, Guyver said:

So, we don’t know what they are but they’re not aliens.  OK then, mystery solved.  Sigh. I guess that leaves advanced humans and/or their tech from the future.  Or, secret tech so secret the government doesn’t even know about it.  That….or they’re just not telling and this whole thing is a fabricated cover story.

I think basically what they are saying is, we don't know what they are, but we do know what they are not!  In other words, there's no there there.

Kind of like someone seeing a four legged animal they really can't identify...and someone says its a chupacabra...and you say, I don't know what the hell that is...but I do know, it's not a chupacabra!  

[Trelane]

3 hours ago, Guyver said:

So, we don’t know what they are but they’re not aliens.  OK then, mystery solved.  Sigh. I guess that leaves advanced humans and/or their tech from the future.  Or, secret tech so secret the government doesn’t even know about it.  That….or they’re just not telling and this whole thing is a fabricated cover story.

Or unknown natural phenomenon that has yet to be fully understood. No all "sightings" could or should have the same broad brush strokes applied to them.

[kingsway]

nasa is telling lies

[Hankenhunter]

9 hours ago, Guyver said:

So, we don’t know what they are but they’re not aliens.  OK then, mystery solved.  Sigh. I guess that leaves advanced humans and/or their tech from the future.  Or, secret tech so secret the government doesn’t even know about it.  That….or they’re just not telling and this whole thing is a fabricated cover story.

NASA- Never A Straight Answer

[psyche101]

9 hours ago, Guyver said:

So, we don’t know what they are but they’re not aliens.  OK then, mystery solved.  Sigh. I guess that leaves advanced humans and/or their tech from the future.  Or, secret tech so secret the government doesn’t even know about it.  That….or they’re just not telling and this whole thing is a fabricated cover story.

Or natural phenomena and misidentification.

[qxcontinuum]

How can artificial intelligence explain a phenomenon that has never been compiled in its algorithm? This world is starting to become a fantasy.  Nasa is run by old farts on ideologies and procedures written in 1970's.

[fred_mc]

18 hours ago, Guyver said:

So, we don’t know what they are but they’re not aliens.  OK then, mystery solved.  Sigh. I guess that leaves advanced humans and/or their tech from the future.  Or, secret tech so secret the government doesn’t even know about it.  That….or they’re just not telling and this whole thing is a fabricated cover story.

I don't think they said that, it's more like "We don't know what they are ... period.". Of course, that causes speculations about aliens since we humans have always placed monsters in places that we know nothing about. Aliens are the sea monsters of our time.

[Robotic Jew]

On 9/14/2023 at 11:37 AM, Guyver said:

So, we don’t know what they are but they’re not aliens.  OK then, mystery solved.  Sigh. I guess that leaves advanced humans and/or their tech from the future.  Or, secret tech so secret the government doesn’t even know about it.  That….or they’re just not telling and this whole thing is a fabricated cover story.

It could also be secret tech so secret the government doesn't WANT people to know about it...

[Trelane]

28 minutes ago, Robotic Jew said:

It could also be secret tech so secret the government doesn't WANT people to know about it...

The B-21 Raider reveal late last year was a classic example of how little the public really knows about what is being developed and tested. There are far more exotic prototypes of various platforms 9manned & unmanned0 that the US does not want anyone to know about. i stands to reason that peer nations or adversarial ones also may have items they are secretly developing and testing. Like I said though, some repots could very well be various types of natural phenomenon we haven't fully examined or even know about. 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 9/14/2023 at 12:54 PM, joc said:

I think basically what they are saying is, we don't know what they are, but we do know what they are not!  In other words, there's no there there.

Kind of like someone seeing a four legged animal they really can't identify...and someone says its a chupacabra...and you say, I don't know what the hell that is...but I do know, it's not a chupacabra!  

Joc, I 'splain:

They are unknown ≠ they are not Alien.

Please note, joc, at no time has any spokesperson from the Pentagon or any other branch of government, said that "they are NOT Alien". Never happened. 

 

 

 

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[Earl.Of.Trumps]

5 hours ago, Robotic Jew said:

It could also be secret tech so secret the government doesn't WANT people to know about it...

Well then, may I say they are doing a horsebleep job of it, eh?  

It's like Are 51 being billed as the world's most secret Air Base LOL! Wrong. It's the most well know. The indigenous Peruvians even know about it.

 

Just some food for thought... This super secret project of making hi-tech aircrafts that no one knows about... Who makes out their paychecks? 

 

[+joc]

13 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Joc, I 'splain:

They are unknown ≠ they are not Alien.

Please note, joc, at no time has any spokesperson from the Pentagon or any other branch of government say that "they are NOT Alien". Never happened. 

Noted and agreed. They don't know what they are.  Which is why the AARO was created.  And they have NOT said that they are Alien either.

[M 7]

On 9/14/2023 at 5:54 PM, joc said:

I think basically what they are saying is, we don't know what they are, but we do know what they are not!  In other words, there's no there there.

Kind of like someone seeing a four legged animal they really can't identify...and someone says its a chupacabra...and you say, I don't know what the hell that is...but I do know, it's not a chupacabra!  

Not really, no. They're saying that they don't know what they are but that any investigation should be based in science and not mired in sensationalism or prejudice. In NASA's own words: 

’Searching for high velocity objects moving through our solar system to be example of a high risk of failure/high value of return study'

'At this point there is no reason to conclude that existing UAP reports have an extraterrestrial source. However, if we acknowledge that as one possibility, then those objects must have traveled through our solar system to get here. Just as the galaxy does not stop at the outskirts of the solar system, the solar system also includes Earth and its environs. Thus, there is an intellectual continuum between extrasolar technosignatures, solar system SETI, and potential unknown alien technology operating in Earth’s atmosphere. If we recognize the plausibility of any of these, then we should recognize that all are at least plausible’

 

So no, they are categorically not saying 

On 9/14/2023 at 5:54 PM, joc said:

 but we do know what they are not!  In other words, there's no there there.

They're basically saying that they're searching for evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence, that they haven't yet found any evidence and that there's a strong probability that they won't but that the rewards if such an endeavour was to be successful would be so high that it is a worthy area of study.

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[+joc]

37 minutes ago, M 7 said:

Not really, no. They're saying that they don't know what they are but that any investigation should be based in science and not mired in sensationalism or prejudice. In NASA's own words: 

’Searching for high velocity objects moving through our solar system to be example of a high risk of failure/high value of return study'

'At this point there is no reason to conclude that existing UAP reports have an extraterrestrial source. However, if we acknowledge that as one possibility, then those objects must have traveled through our solar system to get here. Just as the galaxy does not stop at the outskirts of the solar system, the solar system also includes Earth and its environs. Thus, there is an intellectual continuum between extrasolar technosignatures, solar system SETI, and potential unknown alien technology operating in Earth’s atmosphere. If we recognize the plausibility of any of these, then we should recognize that all are at least plausible’

 

So no, they are categorically not saying 

They're basically saying that they're searching for evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence, that they haven't yet found any evidence and that there's a strong probability that they won't but that the rewards if such an endeavour was to be successful would be so high that it is a worthy area of study.

Sounds good to me M 7!

[Dejarma]

44 minutes ago, M 7 said:

They're saying that they don't know what they are but that any investigation should be based in science and not mired in sensationalism or prejudice.

how can science study a story?

Science is presented with an unknown artifact in a laboratory- that is something to study.

Science cannot, will not study a 'story' of an unknown artifact. How can it?

[M 7]

25 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

how can science study a story?

Science is presented with an unknown artifact in a laboratory- that is something to study.

Science cannot, will not study a 'story' of an unknown artifact. How can it?

Where are you getting stories from? I've not read the full report but I'm pretty sure that NASA has no intention of investigating whether Dave from Iowa really was abducted by aliens from Zeti Reticuluii  on his way back from the local boozer.

Rather they are talking about widening the scope of existing or planned NASA missions ’to include searching for extraterrestrial technosignatures in planetary atmospheres, on planetary surfaces, or in near-Earth space'. This, they say can be done at only 'modest additional cost’ and will yield various scientific benefits in terms of expanding our understanding of the universe even if it is unlikely that they find evidence of technosignatures originating from outside our solar system.

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[Tatetopa]

34 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

how can science study a story?

What did you see, when did you see it , where was it, and what direction was it traveling?  If you get several observations that triangulate, you might get some position and velocity data.  Weather balloons for example might be pinpointed and found  by observations.

To me that sounds more like military than science data, but mainly because we suspect  that if the object is artificial, it was produced by a near peer nation, or by ourselves. NASA might want to know how many people observed a test flight or reentry or whatever.   The military of course wants to know that sort of thing. 

[Dejarma]

22 minutes ago, M 7 said:

Rather they are talking about widening the scope of existing or planned NASA missions ’to include searching for extraterrestrial technosignatures in planetary atmospheres, on planetary surfaces, or in near-Earth space'. This, they say can be done at only 'modest additional cost’ and will yield various scientific benefits in terms of expanding our understanding of the universe even if it is unlikely that they find evidence of technosignatures originating from outside our solar system.

they are talking about investigating UAP's in our atmosphere-- what data will they be looking at?

[Dejarma]

13 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

To me that sounds more like military than science data,

yep, to me as well 

[M 7]

15 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

they are talking about investigating UAP's in our atmosphere-- what data will they be looking at?

 Maybe read the 33 page report Dejarma instead of asking others to do your homework!

[Dejarma]

16 minutes ago, M 7 said:

 Maybe read the 33 page report Dejarma instead of asking others to do your homework!

I HAVE read the full report. This is rich coming from someone who openly tells me that they have not:

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I've not read the full report

Maybe stop being so defensive when you're not being attacked.

I'm asking your opinion as a member of UM... So your choice 

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[Dejarma]

8 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

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[Earl.Of.Trumps]

1 hour ago, M 7 said:

Where are you getting stories from? I've not read the full report but I'm pretty sure that NASA has no intention of investigating whether Dave from Iowa really was abducted by aliens from Zeti Reticuluii  on his way back from the local boozer.

Rather they are talking about widening the scope of existing or planned NASA missions ’to include searching for extraterrestrial technosignatures in planetary atmospheres, on planetary surfaces, or in near-Earth space'. This, they say can be done at only 'modest additional cost’ and will yield various scientific benefits in terms of expanding our understanding of the universe even if it is unlikely that they find evidence of technosignatures originating from outside our solar system.

Amazing. This just came out today

We Just Found a Molecule on Another World...and Only Living Organisms Can Produce It - and it is called dimethyl sulfide, or DMS

"NASA recently announced the detection of a potential signature of extraterrestrial life in the atmosphere of a planet located 120 light years away."