pellinore Posted September 19, 2023 Author #51 Share Posted September 19, 2023 5 hours ago, F3SS said: I'm sure. Time will tell. Is it true the age of consent is 16 in the UK? I wasn't anticipating that. There's certain things I'd rather not Google. I was astonished that there is no age of consent in some US states. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted September 19, 2023 #52 Share Posted September 19, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted September 19, 2023 #53 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, pellinore said: I was astonished that there is no age of consent in some US states. Wyoming, New Mexico, Hawaii, and West Virginia still don't have proper laws criminalizing sexual assault on animals. How beastly! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 19, 2023 #54 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Wasn't Russell something to do with exposing child sex trafficking? If so he is finished. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted September 19, 2023 #55 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Just now, openozy said: Wasn't Russell something to do with exposing child sex trafficking? If so he is finished. I think that's when they send Liam Neeson round to shoot you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 19, 2023 Author #56 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, openozy said: Wasn't Russell something to do with exposing child sex trafficking? If so he is finished. Yes, he used to send a car to pick them up from school.Russell Brand 'used a BBC chauffeur to pick up teenage girl from school' as another alleged victim claims comic 'raped her weeks before starring as Willy Wonka at London Olympics closing ceremony' | Daily Mail Online Edited September 19, 2023 by pellinore 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 19, 2023 #57 Share Posted September 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, pellinore said: Yes, he used to send a car to pick them up from school.Russell Brand 'used a BBC chauffeur to pick up teenage girl from school' as another alleged victim claims comic 'raped her weeks before starring as Willy Wonka at London Olympics closing ceremony' | Daily Mail Online Not defending him but why didn't the girl press charges at the time? Sounds like me too bs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 19, 2023 Author #58 Share Posted September 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, openozy said: Not defending him but why didn't the girl press charges at the time? Sounds like me too bs. It's strange, isn't it? Once a story breaks, loads of people come out with their stories. They did the same with Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris and others where the perpetrator wasn't famous (like teachers at boarding schools). Either they felt fear, shame, embarrassment, or felt they wouldn't be believed etc and are emboldened when others tell their stories; or they are just jumping onto the bandwagon for their 15 minutes of fame. I'm inclined to believe it is the former. I've just been watching a drama series on the Magdalen Laundry scandal. People keep things locked up inside them, believing they were the architects of their misfortune until the story breaks and they realise they were victims. I don't know what you mean about Me Too being BS, though I don't know much about it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 19, 2023 #59 Share Posted September 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, pellinore said: It's strange, isn't it? Once a story breaks, loads of people come out with their stories. They did the same with Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris and others where the perpetrator wasn't famous (like teachers at boarding schools). Either they felt fear, shame, embarrassment, or felt they wouldn't be believed etc and are emboldened when others tell their stories; or they are just jumping onto the bandwagon for their 15 minutes of fame. I'm inclined to believe it is the former. I've just been watching a drama series on the Magdalen Laundry scandal. People keep things locked up inside them, believing they were the architects of their misfortune until the story breaks and they realise they were victims. I don't know what you mean about Me Too being BS, though I don't know much about it. When this happens with celebs I instantly think these people are after a payout. If you were alone with the person and other people have accused them, you have the upper hand. Seems nearly ever male celeb has been accused of something and ever time this happens part of our happy memory is polluted. I'm sick of hearing about this stuff. Just seems everyone jumped on the me too bandwagon, for fame, money, attention or whatever. I think most went along with it at the time and didn't have a gun pointed at their head then complained later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vinyl Posted September 19, 2023 #60 Share Posted September 19, 2023 50 minutes ago, pellinore said: It's strange, isn't it? Once a story breaks, loads of people come out with their stories. They did the same with Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris and others where the perpetrator wasn't famous (like teachers at boarding schools). Either they felt fear, shame, embarrassment, or felt they wouldn't be believed etc and are emboldened when others tell their stories; or they are just jumping onto the bandwagon for their 15 minutes of fame. I'm inclined to believe it is the former. I've just been watching a drama series on the Magdalen Laundry scandal. People keep things locked up inside them, believing they were the architects of their misfortune until the story breaks and they realise they were victims. I don't know what you mean about Me Too being BS, though I don't know much about it. Woman in The Wall? Superb drama! And your point is absolutely spot on about people keeping things locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted September 19, 2023 #61 Share Posted September 19, 2023 11 hours ago, F3SS said: I'm sure. Time will tell. Is it true the age of consent is 16 in the UK? I wasn't anticipating that. There's certain things I'd rather not Google. Yes, it is 16, probably what tricked Prince Andrew lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted September 19, 2023 #62 Share Posted September 19, 2023 5 hours ago, openozy said: When this happens with celebs I instantly think these people are after a payout. If you were alone with the person and other people have accused them, you have the upper hand. Seems nearly ever male celeb has been accused of something and ever time this happens part of our happy memory is polluted. I'm sick of hearing about this stuff. Just seems everyone jumped on the me too bandwagon, for fame, money, attention or whatever. I think most went along with it at the time and didn't have a gun pointed at their head then complained later. It is easier for victims to come out against average Joe than against a well known and powerfull individual. We have seen so many times when a persom claims that celebrity so and so comitted a sexual assault, the victim itself becoms the villain. That is why so many victims come out once someone else finds the courage first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 19, 2023 Author #63 Share Posted September 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Matt Vinyl said: Woman in The Wall? Superb drama! And your point is absolutely spot on about people keeping things locked up. That's the one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted September 19, 2023 #64 Share Posted September 19, 2023 What I do wonder is how many men have gotten together with women who had romanticized the encounter as being "the one" and when they realized they were just another conquest they don't react well. And this is coming from someone who has suffered sexual harassment and assault in the past. Women's accusations should never be dismissed, but, this situation I do find it rather odd with Brand accumulating a huge following because he was questioning the narrative. Could be he is 100% in the wrong, could be money talks to encourage accusers. Unfortunately we don't know for sure which it is. With a media witch hunt after he questioned their integrity and morals, I am leaning towards being on his side at this time. But, again time will tell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted September 19, 2023 #65 Share Posted September 19, 2023 14 hours ago, pellinore said: I was astonished that there is no age of consent in some US states. So am I. That's absurd. 12 hours ago, openozy said: Wasn't Russell something to do with exposing child sex trafficking? If so he is finished. That's always an internet rumor when a celebrity dies or gets arrested. This begs a good question/thought though. Imagine all that could be exposed if investigative journalism put an ounce of effort into tracking down the victims of Epstein island. 8 hours ago, Electric Scooter said: Yes, it is 16, probably what tricked Prince Andrew lol. Is the legal consent between adults and minors or minors with minors? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 19, 2023 #66 Share Posted September 19, 2023 14 hours ago, pellinore said: I was astonished that there is no age of consent in some US states. It would be astonishing if it were true. The youngest is 16. https//www.ageofconsent.net/states 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted September 19, 2023 #67 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted September 19, 2023 #68 Share Posted September 19, 2023 58 minutes ago, F3SS said: So am I. That's absurd. That's always an internet rumor when a celebrity dies or gets arrested. This begs a good question/thought though. Imagine all that could be exposed if investigative journalism put an ounce of effort into tracking down the victims of Epstein island. Is the legal consent between adults and minors or minors with minors? 16 is the legal age to give consent. Hey, its worse in France and Germany where its 15 and 14. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 20, 2023 Author #69 Share Posted September 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Michelle said: It would be astonishing if it were true. The youngest is 16. https//www.ageofconsent.net/states Yet child marriage is legal. How odd:Child marriage is still prevalent in the U.S. Here’s why. (19thnews.org) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 20, 2023 Author #70 Share Posted September 20, 2023 12 hours ago, glorybebe said: What I do wonder is how many men have gotten together with women who had romanticized the encounter as being "the one" and when they realized they were just another conquest they don't react well. And this is coming from someone who has suffered sexual harassment and assault in the past. Women's accusations should never be dismissed, but, this situation I do find it rather odd with Brand accumulating a huge following because he was questioning the narrative. Could be he is 100% in the wrong, could be money talks to encourage accusers. Unfortunately we don't know for sure which it is. With a media witch hunt after he questioned their integrity and morals, I am leaning towards being on his side at this time. But, again time will tell. 20 hours ago, openozy said: When this happens with celebs I instantly think these people are after a payout. If you were alone with the person and other people have accused them, you have the upper hand. Seems nearly ever male celeb has been accused of something and ever time this happens part of our happy memory is polluted. I'm sick of hearing about this stuff. Just seems everyone jumped on the me too bandwagon, for fame, money, attention or whatever. I think most went along with it at the time and didn't have a gun pointed at their head then complained later. The father of a child in the US who sent inappropriate photos has been told the girl is probably the offender:Father told by police daughter could be in trouble after being groomed online | US News | Sky News 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted September 20, 2023 #71 Share Posted September 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, pellinore said: The father of a child in the US who sent inappropriate photos has been told the girl is probably the offender:Father told by police daughter could be in trouble after being groomed online | US News | Sky News WTH! Just ridiculous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 20, 2023 #72 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, pellinore said: The father of a child in the US who sent inappropriate photos has been told the girl is probably the offender:Father told by police daughter could be in trouble after being groomed online | US News | Sky News Kids do stupid things, they need supervision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted September 20, 2023 #73 Share Posted September 20, 2023 7 hours ago, openozy said: Kids do stupid things, they need supervision. I paid for my daughter's phone. I told her a condition on her having it was that I would randomly look through it. Parents need to be parents. Was that why he called the cops? He didn't know how to parent and tell her no? Or to actually teach her right from wrong to being with? I think the police response was ridiculous. But, why was his young daughter unsupervised to be able to do this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 20, 2023 Author #74 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I just don't find him amusing. Childish and egotistical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 20, 2023 Author #75 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) On 9/19/2023 at 9:59 PM, Michelle said: It would be astonishing if it were true. The youngest is 16. https//www.ageofconsent.net/states You are quite right, Michelle. Yet I was convinced that I looked it up a few years ago and found there was no age of consent. My memory betrayed me, there is an age of consent, but no age limit on child marriages in some states. It was about a 13 year old who was married to a man in his 40s: Although advocates have succeeded in getting seven states to ban child marriage with no exceptions, forty-three states still allow marriage under the age of eighteen, and seven states have no minimum age requirement for marriage so long as there is a parental or judicial waiver. It’s Time to End Child Marriage in the United States | Council on Foreign Relations (cfr.org) Edited September 20, 2023 by pellinore 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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