+susieice Posted September 20, 2023 #51 Share Posted September 20, 2023 This article is an interesting read. More info in the article. This wouldn't be the first time the ejection seat showed problems. What we know about the Marine Corps F-35 crash, backyard ejection and what went wrong (msn.com) The aircraft was only at an altitude of about 1,000 feet (300 meters) and only about a mile (less than 2 kilometers) north of Charleston International Airport, in a populated area that led the pilot to parachute into a residential backyard. The Marine Corps' variant of the F-35 is different from the Air Force and Navy versions in that it can take off and land like a helicopter — which allows it to operate on amphibious assault ships. But it's also different in that it's the only one of the three variants that has an auto-eject function on its ejection seat, according to seat manufacturer Martin-Baker. That has raised questions as to whether the malfunction the pilot experienced was the seat itself. On the Air Force and Navy versions, “the pilot has to initiate the ejection,” said Dan Grazier, a former Marine Corps captain and the senior defense policy fellow at the Project on Government Oversight, but the Marine version's auto-eject is intended to better protect the pilot in case something goes wrong with the aircraft when it's in hover mode. “Was that function triggered for some reason, and punched the pilot out?" Grazier said. “There's a lot of unanswered questions.” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 20, 2023 #52 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Other major questions include how the aircraft continued flying for 60 miles before crashing in a field near Indiantown, South Carolina, Source Source Indiantown is an unincorporated community in rural Williamsburg County, South Carolina, United States. Prior to the arrival of Europeans to North America, it was the site of a historic Native American village. ____________ Early European colonists faced harsh conditions. The life expectancy for those who survived infancy was around 50 years. The settlers tried to establish farmsteads in the territories of several American Indianpeoples, but had few conflicts with them. At first there was considerable trade with the Indians, but their populations fell dramatically due to epidemics of new infectious diseases, to which they had no immunity. Hazards for the settlers included venomous snakes and wolves, which were very common in the early years. Source ________ I’m not surprised to hear about the past problem of “wolves,” in the area where this plane went down. South Carolina still has a problem with human wolves, as we’ve seen in the news, recently, with this murdering solicitor in Hampton County, which is only the tip of the iceberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 22, 2023 #53 Share Posted September 22, 2023 The pilot’s curious 911 call, only adds to the mystery. The question I now have, is, why if this is such an emergency, did the plane continue to fly for an additional 60 miles? Also, if he’s “under 2000 feet,” when he ejected, wouldn’t other people on the ground have seen this low-flying plane, and reported it? I’ve seen one report, which I haven’t verified that the plane was actually vertical in the air, when observed immediately before the crash. So, does that mean that the plane was in a vertical position for 60 miles, less than 2000 feet above the ground and nobody saw it? I know people in South Carolina are sometimes described as a little slow, but I find that hard to believe. It was raining, but the rain was intermittent and not heavy, continually. Then there is the problem with the sound. Where was the sound that the plane would make that close to the ground? Surely someone would hear it, and look out their window, at least? Some things are not adding up here. However, I suppose it’s possible that the pilot could not get the plane to resume normal flight, and that’s why he injected. It still doesn’t explain the lack of a transponder, or why the plane was still able to fly for 60 miles. It is if the plane was hacked, and someone was having a bit of fun with it, by turning off the transponder so it would purposely go missing. That’s my best guess at this point, and the first thing that comes to mind, is China, and the balloon that was shot down over South Carolina, recently. Payback? If so, then, it would seem that the US military is far more vulnerable than they may like to admit. If not, China, then, who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 23, 2023 #54 Share Posted September 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Raptor Witness said: …. it would seem that the US military is far more vulnerable than they may like to admit. If not, China, then, who? If the Pentagon doesn’t know exactly what I was doing at the moment this plane was taken from them, ask the NSA. They are the only good people with sense enough to understand the odds. Considering both the ejection and crash aren’t far from where this same government recently threatened my life, not once, but twice, perhaps this is a penalty you can’t explain … We can’t have anything or any One competing with the mighty, USA arsenal, or can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 23, 2023 #55 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said: We can’t have anything or any One competing with the mighty, USA arsenal, or can we? Do you actually believe you have a gift of foretelling or are you just having fun, trolling? Your approach to faith is an odd, and IMO DANGEROUS one. False prophets don't end well, man. Any person can write down nonsense "verses" and find something to twist into a "fulfillment". Nostradamus did it for years. The difference is he had a better success rate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 23, 2023 #56 Share Posted September 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Raptor Witness said: It is if the plane was hacked, and someone was having a bit of fun with it, by turning off the transponder so it would purposely go missing. I guess almost anything is possible but I can't imagine our military combat systems being that easy to crack. I wonder if that officer has alternate career plans? His time in the Corps is rapidly coming to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 23, 2023 #57 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) At the 1:10 minute mark, a witness on the ground, nearby the crash site, described what he heard: As I commented above, given the loud noise, surely there were others on the ground that saw, and heard this plane. Now we’re hearing that it was actually inverted before it crashed, not vertical. Either way, it is very strange. It reminds me of another strange case in South Carolina, some years ago, from the same Marine air base, when a Blue Angel crashed during America the Beautiful, at the exact moment “from sea to shining sea, was spoken.” This, not long after I had published a curious phrase, which read: “From sea to shining sea, shall this plague be.” I can’t recall the context of the thread or my post, but it was strange. I still have a copy, which I’ve saved, and I’ve referenced this incident, a few times over the years, here. Anyone who cares to find it, probably can. As far as I know, only one member of the public captured that on film, and it was strange what happened to her, afterwards. She was approached by an expert who said, “there’s a UFO in your video.” Sure enough, there was, although now we call them UAP. A very nice lady, but the woman was so frightened, she would not allow me to publish a copy of her video, which I’ve also, retained. Edited September 23, 2023 by Raptor Witness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted September 23, 2023 #58 Share Posted September 23, 2023 This is really a mystery from the top, down. I read today the pilot first called 911 to report help. Not the bass commander or squadron but 911 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 24, 2023 #59 Share Posted September 24, 2023 17 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: This is really a mystery from the top, down. I read today the pilot first called 911 to report help. Not the bass commander or squadron but 911 The question now is, what is the normal protocol, after you’ve been spotted by a civilian, at their home, in the back yard. Also, the “home base” is reportedly roughly two hours to the south in Beaufort, SC but Joint Base Charleston, is very close to where the pilot ejected. Reports of the plane flying upside down immediately prior to the crash, makes me wonder if he was stuck in an inverted position, and this is what really had the pilot rattled. He also, apparently, couldn’t communicate with anyone in command immediately before he crashed. Other witnesses reported hearing what sounded like “thunder” when the plane crashed, but since there were thunderstorms in the area, they thought nothing of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted September 24, 2023 #60 Share Posted September 24, 2023 From the story I got, the homeowner called. He put the pilot on because the operator was skeptical. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 25, 2023 #61 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Tatetopa said: From the story I got, the homeowner called. He put the pilot on because the operator was skeptical. That is right Tatetopa. Here's the call. The link goes on to say what a Government Accountability Office says about the aircraft. Audio call from pilot to dispatchers sheds light on missing F-35 plane (usatoday.com) Edited September 25, 2023 by susieice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 25, 2023 #62 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) At the 1:00 minute mark: Witnesses see the plane flying upside down, or “inverted.” Edited September 25, 2023 by Raptor Witness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 25, 2023 #63 Share Posted September 25, 2023 As I also understand it, this aircraft has a military mode and a training or civilian skies mode. Why was this pilot in “military or stealth mode,” in civilian air space? What kind of mission was this that required stealth mode, in the first place? Did he switch on stealth mode to hide from someone or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 25, 2023 #64 Share Posted September 25, 2023 The “military flight” forums are always an interesting read after such incidents. They suggest a mode 4 ejection, but the new mystery is why the plane didn’t fly farther in the two hours it took to crash? This is what is perplexing to the experts. Common sense says it would depend on the angle that the jet was using its engine to land in “mode 4,” which would also explain the terrible “screaming sound” that Mr. White said he heard before the plane crashed. For those, including myself, who don’t understand what “mode 4” in an F-35 is, here is an explanation. Pretty cool stuff… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 25, 2023 #65 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Civil communications of air traffic control and EMS can be found at the link here, but I have not had time to listen to all this, or analyze anything odd about it. One thing I didn’t find Interesting, was the local sheriff wanted to be sure and protect the gear that landed in the backyard of the homeowner. Check it for angel feathers, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 26, 2023 #66 Share Posted September 26, 2023 My sense is, there’s something disturbing about this incident that has insiders pretty rattled, beyond what the public knows. A 20 year military pilot on YouTube, who is usually pretty calm about these “mishaps,” has apparently already heard some of the truth through his contacts, and he is not his usual self on camera. He has also intentionally omitted some of the most important eye witness material from his report, especially about the crash, as if he doesn’t want to address the underlying mystery about why the plane was seen flying inverted and heard by witnesses in mode 4. The military is likely going to blame the weather, but this won’t explain the growing “dread of their commanders.” One big question I have now is, the pilot who ejected apparently mentions having a wingman. So where’s the wingman? As I understand it, these planes are designed to communicate with one another in a “hive mind,” type fashion. So where’s the Borg Queen in all this? Are her coms down too? It’s also important to understand that all stealth technology does is it shrinks the Radar signature, the Radar signature does not completely disappear from the screen. So why couldn’t other aircraft in the area see the signature, or why couldn’t the ground radar see this plane? Was our military also jamming the international airport nearby? Somethings not adding up here, and everyone in the know is beginning to understand that, except the mainstream media, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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