Chariots of the gods: how UFOs left their mark in ancient cultures

[UM-Bot]

UFOs are not an exclusively modern phenomenon - people have been seeing objects in the sky for thousands of years.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/370453/chariots-of-the-gods-how-ufos-left-their-mark-in-ancient-cultures

[+Desertrat56]

That's the first UFO book my dad brought home and the first one I read.   

[Guyver]

I remember reading the book, and watching the film of the same name.  

[Portre]

It's probably (not) aliens.

[quiXilver]

All perception is based on gambling.  ~Husserl

[Cho Jinn]

1 hour ago, Portre said:

It's probably (not) aliens.

“Mr. Simpson, I think we’d uncovered the reason why your wife is throwing up every morning. Congratulations.”

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

In modern times, a lot of UFO incidents involve the military, particularly near nuke facilities.
and that is what we see in ancient times, apparently, an involvement with warring factions.

an enjoyable read. 

[+joc]

7 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

In modern times, a lot of UFO incidents involve the military, particularly near nuke facilities.
and that is what we see in ancient times, apparently, an involvement with warring factions.

an enjoyable read. 

I didn't read it.  I really don't read much...books anyway.  I do read what I want on the internet.  Just not books.  

And I think.  And this is what I think about when it comes to Ancient Astronauts.  Maybe.  The Israelites were instructed, literally by God, how to build the Ark of the Covenant.  When they went against their enemies...carrying the Ark...they were invincible.  Like you said...warring factions.  Again, when the Israelites crossed the Red Sea...while the waves were being held on either side by the power of God...it was the warring faction of the Chariots of the Egyptians bearing down on them.  God was very much apart of the strategies of war the Israelites used...instructing them.  

Just saying...I think  you are correct sir.  I also think it incredibly naïve to think (I will be shot at dawn for saying this) that the Egyptians or any other human beings from 5000 years ago could  create a flat place...a perfectly flat place...from one end to the other, and all  points in between that occupied the space of 13 acres.  And then...build pyramids on top of it perfectly.  I don't see it.  It does seem more likely to me that Aliens from outerspace did all that  for their own purposes and all of that was inherited by the Egyptians, by the Incas, by others who are 'believed' to have built the pyramids themselves.

Now I am going to go brace myself for the onslaught at dawn...

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

2 hours ago, joc said:

I didn't read it.  I really don't read much...books anyway.  I do read what I want on the internet.  Just not books.  

And I think.  And this is what I think about when it comes to Ancient Astronauts.  Maybe.  The Israelites were instructed, literally by God, how to build the Ark of the Covenant.  When they went against their enemies...carrying the Ark...they were invincible.  Like you said...warring factions.  Again, when the Israelites crossed the Red Sea...while the waves were being held on either side by the power of God...it was the warring faction of the Chariots of the Egyptians bearing down on them.  God was very much apart of the strategies of war the Israelites used...instructing them.  

Just saying...I think  you are correct sir.  I also think it incredibly naïve to think (I will be shot at dawn for saying this) that the Egyptians or any other human beings from 5000 years ago could  create a flat place...a perfectly flat place...from one end to the other, and all  points in between that occupied the space of 13 acres.  And then...build pyramids on top of it perfectly.  I don't see it.  It does seem more likely to me that Aliens from outerspace did all that  for their own purposes and all of that was inherited by the Egyptians, by the Incas, by others who are 'believed' to have built the pyramids themselves.

Now I am going to go brace myself for the onslaught at dawn...

It would certainly seem as though the ancient Egyptians possessed tools that never appeared in their toolbox. I find it fascinating and frustrating at the same time.

[Guyver]

1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

It would certainly seem as though the ancient Egyptians possessed tools that never appeared in their toolbox. I find it fascinating and frustrating at the same time.

The ancients were clever, as we are.

[+joc]

5 hours ago, Guyver said:

The ancients were clever, as we are.

It isn't about being clever though is it?  It is about the toolbox!  It matters not at all how clever one is, Technology doesn't just appear...it is a progressive thing.  Did the Egyptians have surveying tools they created?  It just seems to me...for the Egyptians or other ancient civilizations to have built what they seem to have built all on their own is a bit overstepping their reality.

There are at least 3 factors in the Bible that we know are accurate. There were Jews, there were Egyptians, and there were Romans.  Possibly a fourth ..there were God's. And that's my gut feeling. It isn't belief...just a 'feeling' that things are not what they seem.  And these Gods, what were they really?  Just a figment of the imagination of every culture on Earth?

 

[Unusual Tournament]

So much for UFO’s being drones and military vehicles if the phenomenon is older than drones and flying military planes

[Sojo]

1 hour ago, joc said:

It isn't about being clever though is it?  It is about the toolbox!  It matters not at all how clever one is, Technology doesn't just appear...it is a progressive thing.  Did the Egyptians have surveying tools they created?  It just seems to me...for the Egyptians or other ancient civilizations to have built what they seem to have built all on their own is a bit overstepping their reality.

There are at least 3 factors in the Bible that we know are accurate. There were Jews, there were Egyptians, and there were Romans.  Possibly a fourth ..there were God's. And that's my gut feeling. It isn't belief...just a 'feeling' that things are not what they seem.  And these Gods, what were they really?  Just a figment of the imagination of every culture on Earth?

 

I think you're spot on with using simple logic to come to what I think is an obvious reconciliation of all the facts we currently know about the interactions of the earlier civilizations with much greater intelligence and manipulating beings.

Thanks,

Sojo

[astrobeing]

23 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

That's the first UFO book my dad brought home and the first one I read.   

In the early 70s this book was everywhere. I saw it on people's bookshelves and coffee tables at nearly every friend's house. Everyone accepted that scientists were all stupid to have overlooked such an obvious conclusion with incontrovertible evidence all over the world. Aliens had indeed been here, no doubt about it! Of course no one had any idea that Von Däniken was a crook and that the book was hogwash. We didn't find this out until 1978 when an episode of Nova on PBS featured actual scientists explaining what Von Däniken's cherry picked objects really were and that no extraterrestrial help was necessary. This was a fraud that practically created an industry of fraud.

[Antigonos]

There was also a book that was published shortly afterwards called Crash Go the Chariots which refuted EVD’s “evidence”

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

13 hours ago, joc said:

It isn't about being clever though is it?  It is about the toolbox!  It matters not at all how clever one is, Technology doesn't just appear...it is a progressive thing.  Did the Egyptians have surveying tools they created?  It just seems to me...for the Egyptians or other ancient civilizations to have built what they seem to have built all on their own is a bit overstepping their reality.

There are at least 3 factors in the Bible that we know are accurate. There were Jews, there were Egyptians, and there were Romans.  Possibly a fourth ..there were God's. And that's my gut feeling. It isn't belief...just a 'feeling' that things are not what they seem.  And these Gods, what were they really?  Just a figment of the imagination of every culture on Earth?

 

Joc, did you ever read the book of Ezekiel?  LINK: the book of ezekiel  give it a shot. He was purged from the bible because he spoke of godS plural. They appear to be ET

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[SHaYap]

"Ezekiel saw the wheel... This is the wheel he said he saw... "

~

 

 

[Guyver]

18 hours ago, joc said:

It isn't about being clever though is it?  It is about the toolbox!  It matters not at all how clever one is, Technology doesn't just appear...it is a progressive thing.  Did the Egyptians have surveying tools they created?  It just seems to me...for the Egyptians or other ancient civilizations to have built what they seem to have built all on their own is a bit overstepping their reality.

There are at least 3 factors in the Bible that we know are accurate. There were Jews, there were Egyptians, and there were Romans.  Possibly a fourth ..there were God's. And that's my gut feeling. It isn't belief...just a 'feeling' that things are not what they seem.  And these Gods, what were they really?  Just a figment of the imagination of every culture on Earth?

 

Are you familiar with the antikythera mechanism?  It demonstrates the advance of the ancients.

[Guyver]

19 hours ago, joc said:

It isn't about being clever though is it?  It is about the toolbox!  It matters not at all how clever one is, Technology doesn't just appear...it is a progressive thing.  Did the Egyptians have surveying tools they created?  It just seems to me...for the Egyptians or other ancient civilizations to have built what they seem to have built all on their own is a bit overstepping their reality.

There are at least 3 factors in the Bible that we know are accurate. There were Jews, there were Egyptians, and there were Romans.  Possibly a fourth ..there were God's. And that's my gut feeling. It isn't belief...just a 'feeling' that things are not what they seem.  And these Gods, what were they really?  Just a figment of the imagination of every culture on Earth?

 

I think perhaps yes to all of the above.

[Guyver]

Why would God talk to Adam, Noah, Abraham, his sons, Moses,  Isaiah, Jerimiah, Isaiah, Mohammed and Jesus to name later prophets, but not talk to people in the Modern World?  Hello?  There’s 8 billion people in the world, looking for the right way to live.  Where is God now?

[Guyver]

2012 happened along time ago, so Chariots of the Gods is false.

[Portre]

On 9/21/2023 at 6:23 PM, joc said:

I also think it incredibly naïve to think (I will be shot at dawn for saying this) that the Egyptians or any other human beings from 5000 years ago could  create a flat place...a perfectly flat place...from one end to the other, and all  points in between that occupied the space of 13 acres.

How Were the Pyramids Built

Clever Egyptians:

The workers had first to prepare a firm foundation by removing the loose sand from the rock. Then, the rock base had to be made absolutely flat. The workers may have done this by building low mud walls all around the base and cutting channels in a grid pattern over the surface. Then, they would fill the channels with water and mark the level the water would reach. After the water had drained away, protruding rock would have been cut back to the level indicated, and any depressions filled with stones to make a perfectly level surface.

[Portre]

10 hours ago, Guyver said:

Why would God talk to Adam, Noah, Abraham, his sons, Moses,  Isaiah, Jerimiah, Isaiah, Mohammed and Jesus to name later prophets, but not talk to people in the Modern World?  Hello?  There’s 8 billion people in the world, looking for the right way to live.  Where is God now?

There are and have been loads of people who claimed God spoke to them, too often ordering them to kill people or vote for POS Candidates.

[Antigonos]

10 hours ago, Guyver said:

2012 happened along time ago, so Chariots of the Gods is false.

One doesn’t need EVD’s garbage to argue for the idea of paleocontact. There are actual credible sources that consider the possibility in a sober way.

For example, in their classic 1966 work INTELLIGENT LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE, (written two years before CHARIOTS), world renowned Russian astronomer I.S. Schklovskii and Carl Sagan devote a detailed chapter to paleocontact examining ancient texts that’s still very interesting to read today.

[astrobeing]

23 hours ago, Antigonos said:

There was also a book that was published shortly afterwards called Crash Go the Chariots which refuted EVD’s “evidence”

I have never seen this book anywhere! I guess people didn't want to look uncool by having it around back then.