Chariots of the gods: how UFOs left their mark in ancient cultures

[Golden Duck]

9 hours ago, XenoFish said:

Like I've mentioned before. I've had weird experiences. Some frequent, yet inconsistent. Which is why I do not bother with presenting them.

The difference between screwing around and science is writing it down.

Adam Savage

[XenoFish]

7 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

The difference between screwing around and science is writing it down.

Adam Savage

Even written down its a personal subjective experience that is anecdotal at best. Which criticism and expectations can be brought to bear upon. In other words, I can not prove the validity of anything that I have experienced. So why bother. 

Edited October 13, 2023 by XenoFish

[Golden Duck]

25 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Even written down its a personal subjective experience that is anecdotal at best. Which criticism and expectations can be brought to bear upon. In other words, I can not prove the validity of anything that I have experienced. So why bother. 

Writing it down is a synonym for collecting data.

[XenoFish]

20 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

Writing it down is a synonym for collecting data.

I don't care to share that data as it amount to nothing provable.

[Golden Duck]

22 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

I don't care to share that data as it amount to nothing provable.

Good chat Xeno.

[+Desertrat56]

18 hours ago, joc said:

I think it is probably the case that your headlights were bright enough to turn off each light as you passed. Those lights have photocells so they come on at dusk and go off when the sun comes up.  Depending on the intensity and angle of your lights, yeah you could just turn them off one at a time.  Especially if the road was on an incline.

That's a good explanation for someone driving past the lights.  

[astrobeing]

On 10/10/2023 at 1:38 PM, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

1] Yes, they are crafts.  They flew silently and in unison so quickly, they have to be called aircrafts.What... they don't have wings...? Neither do helicopters and balloons.
Personally, I don;t know how you look at something like that and just write it off because you have never seen them before.So tell ,me what they are, astrobeing.

The things I see in this photo are not craft. They are shapeless blobs of light that look very much like a simple double exposure. If you see craft then that shows you're imagining things that aren't in the photo.

On 10/10/2023 at 1:38 PM, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

2] That's not funny astro and is something I did not expect from you. You forget my father was one of many witnesses to that incident.?

So you want me to believe that your father is some kind of authority in identifying lights in the sky.

On 10/10/2023 at 1:38 PM, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

3] The photo is not fake. Project Bluebook never said it was fake, and it's been around for 70 years and no researcher has that opinion. and finally,

you keep forgetting there were many eyewitnesses. My father was one such witness and he and other workers in the power plant went to the
roof of the plant and a man names Lewis Johnson took a photo from up there. There were also people in the neighborhood who witnessed them.

Project Bluebook never said it was real either. That's because there's no way to prove that a double exposure is a fake unless the double exposure is made by an idiot like Ed Walters who manages to screw it up and not realize it.

It's darn shame that this Lewis Johnson only took one photo all through this incredible encounter!

On 10/10/2023 at 1:38 PM, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Now, I think we agree that the lighted things in the photo are Objects. And I think we agree that the objects Flew in and flew away after spending some time hovering in the bay.

No and no. Light is not an object and light doesn't fly. And from decades of seeing strange things in the sky with other people I can tell you that people's recollections of strange things can vary dramatically even just minutes after the incident.

There have been quite a number of science experiments that show how people's objective perceptions are very easily influenced by peer pressure and social conventions. In other words if people tell you that you saw an alien spacecraft then you'll invent details that will confirm this because you won't want to look stupid.

[XenoFish]

6 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

Good chat Xeno.

So what exactly do you want from me? 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

7 hours ago, astrobeing said:

The things I see in this photo are not craft. They are shapeless blobs of light that look very much like a simple double exposure. If you see craft then that shows you're imagining things that aren't in the photo
I know they are crafts because I know that the lights were shut off at one point and the objects were right there to be seen and people did see them. And  of course, you don't believe me.

So you want me to believe that your father is some kind of authority in identifying lights in the sky.
You're  no authority and you see them. Or are you one that believes that if you can't define it, it doesn't exist! (very convenient)

Project Bluebook never said it was real either. That's because there's no way to prove that a double exposure is a fake unless the double exposure is made by an idiot like Ed Walters who manages to screw it up and not realize it.
Must I say it again... there were many eyewitnesses that saw this objects hovering in the sky. The objects are REAL.The photo is REAL.
The negative is kept by the US Coast Guard, if you want to inspect it. If you don't, you really should refrain from calling the photo fake.

No and no. Light is not an object and light doesn't fly. 
There are eyewitnesses that say they are not light ONLY. Would you care to put up evidence that shows they are light only? Blobs of light. I winder what causes that?

There have been quite a number of science experiments that show how people's objective perceptions are very easily influenced by peer pressure and social conventions. In other words if people tell you that you saw an alien spacecraft then you'll invent details that will confirm this because you won't want to look stupid.

That's nice. Now, as soon as you prove to me that about 50 people are all lying here, let me know, chief.

 

I am not sure I'll be ready for round 2.

[lightly]

Edited October 14, 2023 by lightly

[lightly]

 

“As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul…” 

― Hermes Trismegistus

 

[astrobeing]

On 10/13/2023 at 5:54 PM, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I am not sure I'll be ready for round 2.

All you have is a bunch of unnamed witnesses (allegedly) and a single photo that looks exactly like a simple double exposure. Even Ed Walters had more than this.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

 

7 hours ago, astrobeing said:

All you have is a bunch of unnamed witnesses (allegedly) and a single photo that looks exactly like a simple double exposure. Even Ed Walters had more than this.

astrobeing, have a nice life

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

 

astrobeing, have a nice life

Haters gonna hate!

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Haters gonna hate!

hehehe, not sure he hates me but his methods of evaluating a situation are... well,,, just not to my liking. I like to take things seriously

How ya been GR?

[Grim Reaper 6]

6 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

hehehe, not sure he hates me but his methods of evaluating a situation are... well,,, just not to my liking. I like to take things seriously

How ya been GR?

I have been on Camp Humphrey all day in a meeting just returned home. Over all I am doing great man, hope you are too!

[astrobeing]

20 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

astrobeing, have a nice life

Let us know if you have any more photos. I enjoy them even if they are fakes.

[Grim Reaper 6]

23 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

hehehe, not sure he hates me but his methods of evaluating a situation are... well,,, just not to my liking. I like to take things seriously

How ya been GR?

hey earl, I started this thread today thought you may be interested!