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Nihilisn, Nationalism & Nazism


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On 9/21/2023 at 8:18 PM, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Hitler defined the qualities of an “Ubermensch”—one who is intelligent enough to set their own purpose for life—as qualities exclusively inherent of the Aryan race. On the other hand, Hitler coined the term “Untermenschen” to describe Jews, homosexuals, and black people, as well as all others, meaning “inferior humans.” Hitler saw in his people a self-focused mentality, as well as a lack of care for understanding the meaning of others’ suffering because of that." 

https://slcpoliticalreview.com/2017/12/11/anarchy-from-nihilism-to-nationalism-to-nazism/

The article basically supports the idea that Hitler misused Nietzsche’s ideas. He definitely did not. He was right on the money with Nietzschean ideologies.. 

"Nietzsche’s categorization of individuals into two distinct types: the higher human beings, and those who belong to the herd"

https://academyofideas.com/2017/01/nietzsche-and-morality/

Nietzsche was a supporter of Darwin's writings, which were originally titled "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life"  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species

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Higher humans have a unifying life project, and are consumed by the drive to actualize their lofty goals. This unifying project is not undertaken for short-term gratification, but as a result of the higher man’s vast historical perspective, is a form of work performed under the eye of centuries – a goal whose effects will remain long after the physical death of the higher man.

As Nietzsche wrote in Human All Too Human:

“[The modern] individual focuses too narrowly on his own short lifespan… and wants to pluck the fruit himself from the tree he plants, and so no longer likes to plant those trees that demand a century of constant tending and are intended to provide shade for long successions of generations.” 

Strange fellow. Setting the stage to support all who would exalt themselves above humanity and feel themselves justified. It's not just scientists, philosophers and aristocrats who are striving to leave a legacy. The poorest of men and women in the world do the same thing too, according to their capacity and available resources.  

 

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2 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

The article basically supports the idea that Hitler misused Nietzsche’s ideas. He definitely did not. He was right on the money with Nietzschean ideologies.. 

"Nietzsche’s categorization of individuals into two distinct types: the higher human beings, and those who belong to the herd"

https://academyofideas.com/2017/01/nietzsche-and-morality/

Nietzsche was a supporter of Darwin's writings, which were originally titled "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life"  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species

 Hitler was talking about superior humans based on ethnic origins. Nietzsche on intelligence and abilities. Neither he nor Darwin were wrong and now your trying to compare evolution with racialism which your false prophet EGW was actually a believer in. 

Guess What. Your wrong. The article is right. 

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Nietzsche is psychopathic. 

"There is among men as in every other animal species an excess of failures, of the sick, degenerating, infirm, who suffer necessarily; the successful cases are, among men, too, always the exception” (Beyond Good and Evil).
**So all the other people, the 'slaves' he calls - 'sick' 'degenerating' failures, whose suffering is necessary. 

"the higher man feels a sense of reverence towards himself" Narcissism.

Nietzsche argued that nihilism would destroy all moral convictions, among other things. Disregard for established definitions of morality and ethics seems to be a common denominator between narcissism, psychopathy, sociopathy and nihilism.

The "slave" uses morality to bring down the "higher man." Nietzsche would not be someone you would ever want in power.

https://academyofideas.com/2017/01/nietzsche-and-morality/

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In Nietzsche’s time, as in ours, there exist a plethora of individuals who desire to persecute and bring down those who rise above the mediocre mass, masking their envy with calls for equality. These ideas will therefore seem elitist and distasteful to the great majority of people. But for Nietzsche, these ideas were not meant for the many:

 

Big corporations today would definitely agree with Nietzsche, keeping the pay low and the profits high. 

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Our highest insights must – and should – sound like follies and sometimes like crimes when they are heard without permission by those who are not predisposed and predestined for them”(Beyond Good and Evil)

And here we have the roots of nazism. 

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1 hour ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Nietzsche is psychopathic. 

"There is among men as in every other animal species an excess of failures, of the sick, degenerating, infirm, who suffer necessarily; the successful cases are, among men, too, always the exception” (Beyond Good and Evil).
**So all the other people, the 'slaves' he calls - 'sick' 'degenerating' failures, whose suffering is necessary. 

"the higher man feels a sense of reverence towards himself" Narcissism.

Nietzsche argued that nihilism would destroy all moral convictions, among other things. Disregard for established definitions of morality and ethics seems to be a common denominator between narcissism, psychopathy, sociopathy and nihilism.

The "slave" uses morality to bring down the "higher man." Nietzsche would not be someone you would ever want in power.

https://academyofideas.com/2017/01/nietzsche-and-morality/

Who said anyone would want him in power. Like any philosopher he has good and bad points.

And the point he's right about is humans do not live above natural law.

The smartest and strongest are the survivors who evolve into new species with environmental pressure.  

50 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Big corporations today would definitely agree with Nietzsche, keeping the pay low and the profits high. 

And here we have the roots of nazism. 

Sounds to me like your one of the talentless peons and jealous as Hell about it.

 

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4 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Nietzsche was a supporter of Darwin's writings, which were originally titled "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life"  

I take it that your objection is to the use of the word race.

You seem to have a systematic misuderstanding that common words change meaning over time and place. We saw this earlier in your preaching with the word science.

As it happens, the successive versions of the title of Darwin's book are exceptionally well documented.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsnr.2018.0015

As the article explains

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The term ‘race’ was a synonym for ‘variety’, ‘breed’ or ‘form’.

which at the time was widely used to refer to plants and animals other than human beings, as well as to human groups distinguished by common ancestry or circumstances (not necessarily by skin color). Basically any persistent distinctive group of living things was a "race."

In the 1850's, however, the word was becoming "problematic" as usage referring exclusively to human beings more and more crowded out the older, more general meaning. The dominance of the familiar-to-us meaning (groupings of human beings by skin color or similar traits) was in progress, but not yet accomplished in 1859 Britain when and where the book was first published.

More details are in the article, but it is a long read. The short take-away is that when you argue something from somebody's long-ago use of a word, you need to find out what the word meant to them, not prattle on assuming that the meaning to them was the meaning which suits your agenda.

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41 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

This will probably be my last post, and one I detest making as my grandfather fought these b*******. 

https://www.britannica.com/summary/Third-Reich

I think some have an unhealthy obsession with them.

My grandfather was captured and sent to Auschwitz, not a POW camp because his dark skin and kinky hair. 

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My grandfather was captured and sent to Auschwitz, not a POW camp because his dark skin and kinky hair. 2

My grandfather was a jeep driver. On a run they took a hit. Blew off his right arm. He apparently pulled everyone to safety. Woke in a tent, arm reattached. Despite that he was a good man. When he was alive he avoid WW2 discussions at all cost. I only learned second hand what he did. 

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15 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

My grandfather was a jeep driver. On a run they took a hit. Blew off his right arm. He apparently pulled everyone to safety. Woke in a tent, arm reattached. Despite that he was a good man. When he was alive he avoid WW2 discussions at all cost. I only learned second hand what he did. 

They made a big deal out of my grandfather in the Bridgeton, New Jersey newspaper and then you have gatherings where warriors recite their deeds.

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I just remember a good man. Always had a kind word and hug for his grandkids. Took my younger cousin and I to the little farm store up the road for candy and a drink. He'd buy what he needed that day. Though the memory is faint he was scared up. His right arm a mess, kinda odd that mine is as well....

His chest and back scared as well. 

I miss him still. One of the few good people in my childhood.

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3 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Nietzsche is psychopathic. 

"There is among men as in every other animal species an excess of failures, of the sick, degenerating, infirm, who suffer necessarily; the successful cases are, among men, too, always the exception” (Beyond Good and Evil).
**So all the other people, the 'slaves' he calls - 'sick' 'degenerating' failures, whose suffering is necessary. 

"the higher man feels a sense of reverence towards himself" Narcissism.

Nietzsche argued that nihilism would destroy all moral convictions, among other things. Disregard for established definitions of morality and ethics seems to be a common denominator between narcissism, psychopathy, sociopathy and nihilism.

The "slave" uses morality to bring down the "higher man." Nietzsche would not be someone you would ever want in power.

https://academyofideas.com/2017/01/nietzsche-and-morality/

“Academy of Ideas is the creation of two brothers from Canada. All of the content is produced by us. We are not supported by or affiliated with any organization or university. Our goal is to spread the message of individual liberty and empowerment to as many people as possible.”

 

 

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2 hours ago, Piney said:

Who said anyone would want him in power. Like any philosopher he has good and bad points.

And the point he's right about is humans do not live above natural law.

The smartest and strongest are the survivors who evolve into new species with environmental pressure.  

Sounds to me like your one of the talentless peons and jealous as Hell about it.

 

I had the same thought, this poster is jealous. 

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6 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

“Academy of Ideas is the creation of two brothers from Canada. All of the content is produced by us. We are not supported by or affiliated with any organization or university. Our goal is to spread the message of individual liberty and empowerment to as many people as possible.”

 

Read, you are here to troll. 

The Academy of Ideas is nothing more than a Ultra Right Wing Christian propaganda passed off as philosophy. 

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I'll admit that nihilism is basically crossing the abyss. You can't stay there perpetually. You either embrance life or end it. Choosing to create whatever meaning you wish or live regardless of meaning, by experiencing what life has to offer. I personally see hedonism as a form of nihlistic self-destruction. Because if nothing matters the nihilist might say, might as well burn oneself out on meaningless self-indulgences.

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4 minutes ago, Piney said:

The Academy of Ideas is nothing more than a Ultra Right Wing Christian propaganda passed off as philosophy. 

These days it's difficult to find an unbiased source of information. Be it right or left, because some of us don't care about politics.

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49 minutes ago, Piney said:

The Academy of Ideas is nothing more than an Ultra Right Wing Christian propaganda passed off as philosophy. 

 We have so many trolls that  come thru here at this point, nothing is new with these posters, they all use the same playbook.:tu:

 

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50 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

I'll admit that nihilism is basically crossing the abyss. You can't stay there perpetually. You either embrance life or end it. Choosing to create whatever meaning you wish or live regardless of meaning, by experiencing what life has to offer. I personally see hedonism as a form of nihlistic self-destruction. Because if nothing matters the nihilist might say, might as well burn oneself out on meaningless self-indulgences.

Word, :nw: You have walked the talk. Major respect to you. You are probably one of the bravest and honest people I know.

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11 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

The article basically supports the idea that Hitler misused Nietzsche’s ideas. He definitely did not. He was right on the money with Nietzschean ideologies.. 

"Nietzsche’s categorization of individuals into two distinct types: the higher human beings, and those who belong to the herd"

https://academyofideas.com/2017/01/nietzsche-and-morality/

Nietzsche was a supporter of Darwin's writings, which were originally titled "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life"  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species

Nice shot.

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It’s like picking the low hanging fruit though.  Everyone hates Hitler except those too uneducated to know about him.

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From a Materialist/Naturalist philosophy though….I mean.  At the time, it’s easy to see like a strategy like that would work.  When people are already down, that’s when they are at their most vulnerable.

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