Rumble Could Be Banned In UK Under New Online Safety Laws

[WVK]

Rumble, the free-speech video hosting website could be banned in the UK under new online safety laws. As reported here a couple of days ago, the Online Safety Bill was approved by the House of Lords on the 19th of September but still needs official approval from the King before it can become law. This has not deterred the government from trying to coax platforms such as YouTube, to ban Russell Brand due to allegations of historical abuse. 

Again as we reported last week, while YouTube dutifully obeyed, Rumble stayed true to their mission and responded “Although it may be politically and socially easier to join the cancel culture mob, doing so would be a violation of our companies values and mission. and finished with “We emphatically reject the UK Parliament’s demands.”

Unfortunately, now “experts” have said that Rumble, which hosts Russell Brand, could be blocked in the UK because of the Online Safety Bill.

https://expose-news.com/2023/09/25/rumble-could-be-banned-in-uk-under-new-online-safety-laws/

[+and-then]

Well, as long as the goal is to "keep the people safe", I guess the government should take every last freedom, just to be sure.

[Duke Wellington]

7 hours ago, WVK said:

Rumble, the free-speech video hosting website could be banned in the UK under new online safety laws. As reported here a couple of days ago, the Online Safety Bill was approved by the House of Lords on the 19th of September but still needs official approval from the King before it can become law. This has not deterred the government from trying to coax platforms such as YouTube, to ban Russell Brand due to allegations of historical abuse. 

Again as we reported last week, while YouTube dutifully obeyed, Rumble stayed true to their mission and responded “Although it may be politically and socially easier to join the cancel culture mob, doing so would be a violation of our companies values and mission. and finished with “We emphatically reject the UK Parliament’s demands.”

Unfortunately, now “experts” have said that Rumble, which hosts Russell Brand, could be blocked in the UK because of the Online Safety Bill.

https://expose-news.com/2023/09/25/rumble-could-be-banned-in-uk-under-new-online-safety-laws/

How exactly are they at odds with the new online laws?

The laws are about placing limitations on encryption key length, so that when allegations of criminal conduct are made evidence can be collected. Rumble doesn`t have long enough encryption keys to violate it. The only platform that currently violates it is Tik Tok and they will no doubt adjust to be compliant with the new law.

Edited September 29, 2023 by Electric Scooter

[psyche101]

5 hours ago, and-then said:

Well, as long as the goal is to "keep the people safe", I guess the government should take every last freedom, just to be sure.

Rumble is well known for a lenient approach to fallacious and harmful speech creating a haven for far right wing nasties. 

What I don't understand is why people like yourself always jump straight in to support these bottom feeders over decency. A lot of those human failures don't deserve to be peed on if they were on fire. Yet right wingers fawn over those dolts like a teen in front of their idol. 

Decent people have rights too, and the right to tell those grubs to go suck a lemon. 

[pellinore]

4 hours ago, psyche101 said:

Rumble is well known for a lenient approach to fallacious and harmful speech creating a haven for far right wing nasties. 

What I don't understand is why people like yourself always jump straight in to support these bottom feeders over decency. A lot of those human failures don't deserve to be peed on if they were on fire. Yet right wingers fawn over those dolts like a teen in front of their idol. 

Decent people have rights too, and the right to tell those grubs to go suck a lemon. 

I think the concern is that governments will use safety as an excuse to snoop. I don't know what the current state of play in the UK is, but WhatsApp were talking of leaving the UK if our new bill passed, and even Wikipedia was considering its position. There was this case a few years ago where a girl posted the lyrics to a rap song online and it was picked up by a police officer who had a personal issue with the sentiments behind the lyrics. While I don't admire rap, and don't understand why it is okay for some people to use the N-word and not others, it does seem to me to a bit dangerous to police online content too vigorously:

A teenager prosecuted after posting rap lyrics including the N-word on Instagram had her conviction overturned today.

Chelsea Russell quoted a song by US rapper Snap Dogg, which included the lines "kill a snitch n****" and "rob a rich n****".

The 2017 post was reported to police and passed to PC Dominique Walker, based within a Merseyside Police hate crime unit.

PC Walker is the sister of Anthony Walker, the 18-year-old victim of an infamous race hate murder in Merseyside in 2005.

Russell, of Stonedale Crescent, Croxteth, was found guilty of sending a grossly offensive message in a trial in April last year.

Lawyer slams 'ridiculous' case which saw teen prosecuted for Instagramming N-word rap lyrics - Liverpool Echo

Edited September 29, 2023 by pellinore

[itsnotoutthere]

We don't really need Rumble to highlight the hypocrisy and double standards of the far left liberals, they highlight it themselves on a daily basis.. the clown Trudeau and his government giving a full blown SS Nazi a standing ovation being the latest example. Priceless. 

Besides, just get a VPN the Opera web browser has a free one built in.

Edited September 29, 2023 by itsnotoutthere

[psyche101]

19 hours ago, pellinore said:

I think the concern is that governments will use safety as an excuse to snoop. I don't know what the current state of play in the UK is, but WhatsApp were talking of leaving the UK if our new bill passed, and even Wikipedia was considering its position. There was this case a few years ago where a girl posted the lyrics to a rap song online and it was picked up by a police officer who had a personal issue with the sentiments behind the lyrics. While I don't admire rap, and don't understand why it is okay for some people to use the N-word and not others, it does seem to me to a bit dangerous to police online content too vigorously:

A teenager prosecuted after posting rap lyrics including the N-word on Instagram had her conviction overturned today.

Chelsea Russell quoted a song by US rapper Snap Dogg, which included the lines "kill a snitch n****" and "rob a rich n****".

The 2017 post was reported to police and passed to PC Dominique Walker, based within a Merseyside Police hate crime unit.

PC Walker is the sister of Anthony Walker, the 18-year-old victim of an infamous race hate murder in Merseyside in 2005.

Russell, of Stonedale Crescent, Croxteth, was found guilty of sending a grossly offensive message in a trial in April last year.

Lawyer slams 'ridiculous' case which saw teen prosecuted for Instagramming N-word rap lyrics - Liverpool Echo

I don't think that's a standard though, it sounds like Walker had an axe to grind and got that job done. 

I don't understand the double standard either and I think that's more the issue there. It happened recently in the states and no charges were laid but the person in question received a great deal of harsh criticism and threats. I don't think authorities did anything about it at all. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44209141.amp 

I'd say this rumble thing is more to put a spotlight on Russell Brand considering his situation currently. Rumbles a bit of a nobody for really nasty people. Untill brand I bet half the people who heard about that story didn't know rumble existed a few weeks ago. It's advertising and the media is just giving it a leg up. 

[pellinore]

1 hour ago, psyche101 said:

I don't think that's a standard though, it sounds like Walker had an axe to grind and got that job done. 

I don't understand the double standard either and I think that's more the issue there. It happened recently in the states and no charges were laid but the person in question received a great deal of harsh criticism and threats. I don't think authorities did anything about it at all. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44209141.amp 

I'd say this rumble thing is more to put a spotlight on Russell Brand considering his situation currently. Rumbles a bit of a nobody for really nasty people. Untill brand I bet half the people who heard about that story didn't know rumble existed a few weeks ago. It's advertising and the media is just giving it a leg up. 

At a guess, I think black people use the N-word ironically, as if they are saying "you used to use this word as a slur, now we use it because we are top dogs" or something, though that doesn't really account for their use of the word by dirt poor black people fighting each other, which is often posted online. Other ethnic groups don't do it, Jews don't call themselves kikes and us Welsh don't call ourselves sheep-shaggers. It's a mystery to me, as much as it was to that woman singing along in the concert.

I think what I was alluding to is the UK governments desire for WhatsApp and others to allow them through their encryption, so that they can search for what they consider harmful. I presume they will be looking for key words, one of which will be the N-word. 

I may also be confusing messaging and posting with searching. The first two are to inform or share information. Searching isn't meant to be shared. Most people's search histories are full of questionable stuff (mine includes How can you print a 3-D gun, what are the categories of *** Blocked ***, how old is Julie Andrews, and more nonsense).

I'd never heard of Rumble either. Personally, I don't think they will benefit from Brand. Mastodon was supposed to take over from Twitter when Elon started changing it, but nothing happened.

Another thing about the far right and free speech is they think it only applies to them and their views. A year ago, our papers were full of people demanding Gary Lineker be sacked for likening our Home Sec's policies to those of Nazi Germany (How dare he say that! He should be cancelled!), yet when Fox outs himself as a bit of an Incel (I'm sure he realises Ava Evans would have no interest in him), free speech is back on the agenda and people should be allowed to say what they like.