New pics throw cold water on Rep. Jamaal Bowman’s excuses for pulling fire alarm in House building

[+OverSword]

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His excuses are going up in smoke.

Images of the fire alarm that Rep. Jamaal Bowman pulled in a House office building as his fellow Democrats were trying to delay a key vote to fund the government appear to throw cold water on his claims that the move was just a boneheaded mistake.

The bright red alarm is clearly marked with the word “FIRE” — and is right next to two signs that provide explicit details on how to open the emergency door at the Cannon House Office Building, photos show.

“Emergency Exit Only!” the signs read. “Push until alarm sounds (3 seconds). Door will unlock in 30 seconds.”

The strident socialist New York lawmaker, whose gaffe was caught on surveillance video, simply needed to turn his head to the right to see the glaring signs.

But Bowman claimed he thought pulling the alarm would open the door.

 

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So he was trying to undermine our democracy by faking a fire emergency to clear the building and delay a vote eh? 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

In most jurisdictions it's a Class 4 Felony and you can get 3 years for it.

But I'm not going to hold my breath and wait for charges to be filed.

[spartan max2]

Well just because he pulled this alarm on the same day as the vote to certify the election - I mean to vote on the budget dosen't mean that was his intent. He was just doing civil disobedience . Did he really think pulling the alarm would stop the vote, they would resume after about and hour? So clearly he just wanted to voice his displeasure. And WHERE WERE THE POLICE to stop him from pulling the alarm, the FBI were probably involved. 

Just to make fun of the Jan 6 defenders for a minute.

But yeah, if he was pulling the fire alarm to delay a vote then he should be punished for it.

 

Edited October 2 by spartan max2

[+OverSword]

6 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

But yeah, if he was pulling the fire alarm to delay a vote then he should be punished for it.

 

They'll be calling for his expulsion for sure.  Did he never hear of the filibuster?

[spartan max2]

7 minutes ago, OverSword said:

They'll be calling for his expulsion for sure.  Did he never hear of the filibuster?

Its also kind of dumb because Congress dosen't need any help on not passing a budget. After the stopgap, in 45 days we are going to hear about a possible shut down all over again.

I think since his leadership didn't want to do a filibuster he just wanted to try to delay by sneaking or something. Whatever the reason he isn't very smart.

Edited October 2 by spartan max2

[spartan max2]

As for his defense, did he inform Congress later that he accidentally pulled it? Or was it not until the video came out. 

If he didn't inform anyone until the video then it looks pretty sus for him. 

If it's an honest mistake then you would have informed everyone right away.

[+OverSword]

9 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

As for his defense, did he inform Congress later that he accidentally pulled it? Or was it not until the video came out. 

If he didn't inform anyone until the video then it looks pretty sus for him. 

If it's an honest mistake then you would have informed everyone right away.

Yes but did you see the picture of the fire alarm that he pulled?  The guy is a former school principal, there is no way he didn't know what it would do.

 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

1 minute ago, spartan max2 said:

As for his defense, did he inform Congress later that he accidentally pulled it? Or was it not until the video came out. 

If he didn't inform anyone until the video then it looks pretty sus for him. 

If it's an honest mistake then you would have informed everyone right away.

Anyone that thinks that pulling a fire alarm to open a door is acceptable then they're too stupid to be in Congress in the first place. Oh and AOC defended his actions so that makes it case closed.

Emergency Exit Only is self-explanatory. The doors are tied into the burglar alarm system and opening them sets off the burglar alarm and pulling the fire alarm triggers a delay to automatically unlock the doors in case of a fire.

[spartan max2]

2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Yes but did you see the picture of the fire alarm that he pulled?  The guy is a former school principal, there is no way he didn't know what it would do.

 

Yeah I don't think his defense is good at all. I'm just saying the only way id have any chance of believing it is if he told Congress right away that he accidently pulled it. If he didn't say anything tell after the video then he is super guilty.

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[Buzz_Light_Year]

1 minute ago, OverSword said:

Yes but did you see the picture of the fire alarm that he pulled?  The guy is a former school principal, there is no way he didn't know what it would do.

 

Yeah I seen that and I'm surprised that it being Notifier that it actually worked.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

4 hours ago, OverSword said:

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So he was trying to undermine our democracy by faking a fire emergency to clear the building and delay a vote eh? 

It was an outsurrection, because instead of wanting to be “in” (thus, insurrection) he wanted to be “out“. 

[Michelle]

4 hours ago, OverSword said:

Yes but did you see the picture of the fire alarm that he pulled?  The guy is a former school principal, there is no way he didn't know what it would do.

They look amazingly the same as the ones in schools for at least the last 50 years. We were told in kindergarten never ever ever ever touch them and to alert a teacher. If you did manage to pull it you were suspended...no excuses.

[F3SS]

I don't really understand what's going on here. Maybe he thought it would delay the vote long enough to just have a shut down so he could go home for a while? Some other plan to blame Republicans somehow? Idk. 

As for these shutdowns, they rarely happen. They always find an 11th hour solution. Almost every time. 

[Myles]

29 minutes ago, Michelle said:

They look amazingly the same as the ones in schools for at least the last 50 years. We were told in kindergarten never ever ever ever touch them and to alert a teacher. If you did manage to pull it you were suspended...no excuses.

I pulled a fire alarm on the last day of 8th grade school.   A girl turned me in and I had to work 3 weeks in the summer, mostly scraping boogers off the bottom of desks.

[DarkHunter]

18 minutes ago, F3SS said:

I don't really understand what's going on here. Maybe he thought it would delay the vote long enough to just have a shut down so he could go home for a while? Some other plan to blame Republicans somehow? Idk. 

As for these shutdowns, they rarely happen. They always find an 11th hour solution. Almost every time. 

Democrats were trying to delay the vote on the 45 day continuation of the budget the entire time.  Originally the Democrats tried to adjourn the house before the budget continuation could be voted on but failed.  The Democrats did succeed on some minor delays using procedural stuff by an hour or two but couldn't stop the vote from happening.  When the vote was about to start is when this Democratic representative decides to pull the fire alarm.

As to why the Democrats wanted to avoid the vote on funding government for 45 days it was all due to politics.  Essentially they believed a government shutdown would hurt the Republicans more then them and that the Republicans would get enough pressure from the nation that they would cave to Democrat demands in the budget.  

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[Gromdor]

Yeah, he was dumb.  Claiming he thought it was the lever to open the door.  The video shows it's pretty deliberate.  I think it's perfectly fair to give him similiar charges to the Jan. 6 people who disrupted the certification vote.

[spartan max2]

1 hour ago, DarkHunter said:

Democrats were trying to delay the vote on the 45 day continuation of the budget the entire time.  Originally the Democrats tried to adjourn the house before the budget continuation could be voted on but failed.  The Democrats did succeed on some minor delays using procedural stuff by an hour or two but couldn't stop the vote from happening.  When the vote was about to start is when this Democratic representative decides to pull the fire alarm.

As to why the Democrats wanted to avoid the vote on funding government for 45 days it was all due to politics.  Essentially they believed a government shutdown would hurt the Republicans more then them and that the Republicans would get enough pressure from the nation that they would cave to Democrat demands in the budget.  

You realize that Republicans have the majority in the house right? And the 45 day stopgap that did eventually pass was voted  for by more Democrats than by Republicans.

Crazy how democrats somehow are always "responsible" for what MAGA Republicans cause lol. (You know, the people who didn't vote for the stopgate and who refuse to even comprise with their own party, yet alone reach across the aisle). 

They compromised and now because of that Ukraine dosen't get aide for 45 days, as per republican demands. So good job MAGA... Putin having an easier time in Ukraine certainly helps the American people I guess..

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[DarkHunter]

3 hours ago, spartan max2 said:

You realize that Republicans have the majority in the house right? And the 45 day stopgap that did eventually pass was voted  for by more Democrats than by Republicans.

Crazy how democrats somehow are always "responsible" for what MAGA Republicans cause lol. (You know, the people who didn't vote for the stopgate and who refuse to even comprise with their own party, yet alone reach across the aisle). 

They compromised and now because of that Ukraine dosen't get aide for 45 days, as per republican demands. So good job MAGA... Putin having an easier time in Ukraine certainly helps the American people I guess..

House Democratic Whip Katherine Clark, from Massachusetts, was the one who made the motion to adjourn Congress. 

It was also the Democrats who used various delaying tactics to push the government right up to the edge of shutting down.

Lastly it was a Democrat who pulled the fire alarm in a last ditch effort to stop the vote on the resolution.

You might not realize it but you are just as rapid and as dangerous as MAGA Republicans, arguably even more dangerous cause you completely and utterly believe you are in the right and the ones you deem on the other side are to be blamed for everything.

[spartan max2]

8 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

House Democratic Whip Katherine Clark, from Massachusetts, was the one who made the motion to adjourn Congress. 

It was also the Democrats who used various delaying tactics to push the government right up to the edge of shutting down.

Lastly it was a Democrat who pulled the fire alarm in a last ditch effort to stop the vote on the resolution.

You might not realize it but you are just as rapid and as dangerous as MAGA Republicans, arguably even more dangerous cause you completely and utterly believe you are in the right and the ones you deem on the other side are to be blamed for everything.

In the house controlled by a Republican majority, the stopgap bill was passed by more Democrats voting for it than Republicans. And Democrats compromised on Ukraine aide which according to polling about 80% of Dems support. For one like you who support Ukraine aide, that's something you should pay attention to.

You have to do some pretty intense mental gymnastics to blame Democrats for what MAGA did lol.

Hell MAGA now made a motion to out McCarthy as speaker for passing the Stopgap bill.

But keep drinking the koolaid brother. 

Edited October 3 by spartan max2

[spartan max2]

9 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

You might not realize it but you are just as rapid and as dangerous as MAGA Republicans, arguably even more dangerous cause you completely and utterly believe you are in the right and the ones you deem on the other side are to be blamed for everything

Hear that folks, saying some sarcastic arguments online makes you more dangerous than the MAGA folks who tried to overturn an election and who want to strip most government agencies and shutdown the government of they don't get their way.

Learn something new everyday lol

Edited October 3 by spartan max2

[+OverSword]

12 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

House Democratic Whip Katherine Clark, from Massachusetts, was the one who made the motion to adjourn Congress. 

It was also the Democrats who used various delaying tactics to push the government right up to the edge of shutting down.

Lastly it was a Democrat who pulled the fire alarm in a last ditch effort to stop the vote on the resolution.

You might not realize it but you are just as rapid and as dangerous as MAGA Republicans, arguably even more dangerous cause you completely and utterly believe you are in the right and the ones you deem on the other side are to be blamed for everything.

 

4 hours ago, spartan max2 said:

In the house controlled by a Republican majority, the stopgap bill was passed by more Democrats voting for it than Republicans. And Democrats compromised on Ukraine aide which according to polling about 80% of Dems support. For one like you who support Ukraine aide, that's something you should pay attention to.

You have to do some pretty intense mental gymnastics to blame Democrats for what MAGA did lol.

Hell MAGA now made a motion to out McCarthy as speaker for passing the Stopgap bill.

But keep drinking the koolaid brother. 

It's extreme elements in both parties, one side pushing for too much the other for too little.

[+and-then]

On 10/2/2023 at 10:08 AM, OverSword said:

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So he was trying to undermine our democracy by faking a fire emergency to clear the building and delay a vote eh? 

The law should be for all or none.  He needs to be arrested and fined for his actions, regardless of WHY he did it.  The reality is that false fire alarms can cause injuries or a growing lack of respect for the laws in general.  My biggest issue with this is the fact that he'll face no consequences at all and if the letter in front of his name was an R, the media would be crucifying him and it's entirely possible that he'd be arrested and heavily fined.  There is no longer ANY doubt that we are living in a country with a multi-tiered "justice" system.  That will either stop or the country will eventually fall into chaos.

[+and-then]

17 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

You might not realize it but you are just as rapid and as dangerous as MAGA Republicans, arguably even more dangerous cause you completely and utterly believe you are in the right and the ones you deem on the other side are to be blamed for everything.

Neither "side" seems to be self-aware enough to admit they might be causing some of the problems.  It's the adult version of a food fight in a cafeteria.  If we don't have anyone capable of mending this system, things really are about to spin out of control and I refuse to accept the idea that these people - both sides - are stupid.  They know exactly what they're doing and Bowman should be prosecuted and HEAVILY fined out of his own pockets.

[spartan max2]

Just now, and-then said:

Neither "side" seems to be self-aware enough to admit they might be causing some of the problems.

So you agree that MAGA Republicans are causing some of the problems?

[+and-then]

38 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

So you agree that MAGA Republicans are causing some of the problems?

Of course they are.  The situation IMO, was not initiated by the Right but they/we certainly are helping to foment the chaos.  You folks on the Left have accepted that 2020 was a clean election and that the accusations of theft were totally baseless.  What you DIDN'T do was to join with your neighbors in investigating the many irregularities.  Had that been done, we'd be facing a totally different situation today. 

You really need to internalize the reality that roughly half the nation disagrees with you on the outcome of that election and rather than mocking and shouting people down over the issue, we all need to be willing to take steps to verify the ballots next time around.  That isn't going to happen in Democrat-controlled states.  If steps aren't taken to at least secure elections to the satisfaction of all in the swing states, we've had our last uncontested election.  That is the reality.  Trying to just shout down tens of millions of Americans is not going to end well for the nation.  We need a national dialogue on this issue and we need it urgently.