James Webb telescope makes 'JuMBO' discovery of planet-like objects in Orion

[Waspie_Dwarf]

James Webb telescope makes 'JuMBO' discovery of planet-like objects in Orion

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Jupiter-sized "planets" free-floating in space, unconnected to any star, have been spotted by the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST).

What's intriguing about the discovery is that these objects appear to be moving in pairs. Astronomers are currently struggling to explain them.

The telescope observed about 40 pairs in a fabulously detailed new survey of the famous Orion Nebula.

They've been nicknamed Jupiter Mass Binary Objects, or "JuMBOs" for short.

One possibility is that these objects grew out of regions in the nebula where the density of material was insufficient to make fully fledged stars.

Another possibility is that they were made around stars and were then kicked out into interstellar space through various interactions.

Read More: BBC News

 

[Alchopwn]

4 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

James Webb telescope makes 'JuMBO' discovery of planet-like objects in Orion

 

I have always assumed that it was possible that planets could become orphaned from their solar systems.  Does this confirm that?

[Grim Reaper 6]

48 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

I have always assumed that it was possible that planets could become orphaned from their solar systems.  Does this confirm that?

What do you mean by orphaned?

[Alchopwn]

Just now, Grim Reaper 6 said:

What do you mean by orphaned?

A planet without an orbit around a star.  

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

A planet without an orbit around a star.  

Yes, Rogue planets do exist and normally one of the following terms is used when describing them. A rogue planet (also termed a free-floating planet (FFP), isolated planetary-mass object (iPMO). Now, what I don't know is the number of Rogue Planets that have discovered or how close in proximity any Rogue Planets are to our Solar System!

[Alchopwn]

17 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Yes, Rogue planets do exist and normally one of the following terms is used when describing them. A rogue planet (also termed a free-floating planet (FFP), isolated planetary-mass object (iPMO). Now, what I don't know is the number of Rogue Planets that have discovered or how close in proximity any Rogue Planets are to our Solar System!

LOL we should name our first rogue planet after Sarah Palin, who is famous for her book "Going Rogue" (which apparently isn't even about her dubious parenting style).  Perhaps we can encourage the MAGAs to migrate there?

If you are in the mood for some horror fiction of an entirely different style I suggest Hellstar Remina by the Japanese horror Author and artist Junji Ito.  It also features a very memorable rogue planet.

[Grim Reaper 6]

4 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

LOL we should name our first rogue planet after Sarah Palin, who is famous for her book "Going Rogue" (which apparently isn't even about her dubious parenting style).  Perhaps we can encourage the MAGAs to migrate there?

If you are in the mood for some horror fiction of an entirely different style I suggest Hellstar Remina by the Japanese horror Author and artist Junji Ito.  It also features a very memorable rogue planet.

I agree Sarah Palin, would be the perfect name for a Rogue Planet! Unfortunately, the MAGAs are here to stay. But IMO there is a possibility they may break ties with the Republican Party and hopefully follow Trump off the cliff standing next too!!!

[Antigonos]

4 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I agree Sarah Palin, would be the perfect name for a Rogue Planet! 

No planet deserves that.

[Antigonos]

9 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Yes, Rogue planets do exist and normally one of the following terms is used when describing them. A rogue planet (also termed a free-floating planet (FFP), isolated planetary-mass object (iPMO). Now, what I don't know is the number of Rogue Planets that have discovered or how close in proximity any Rogue Planets are to our Solar System!

Scientists have theorized there may be one causing the disturbances of objects in the Oort cloud. One even thinks there may have been one which was cast out of our solar system during its formation. Perhaps they are one and the same?

 I can’t link the article but here’s a screenshot of the title for the latter

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Antigonos

[Waspie_Dwarf]

9 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

LOL we should name our first rogue planet after Sarah Palin, who is famous for her book "Going Rogue" (which apparently isn't even about her dubious parenting style).  Perhaps we can encourage the MAGAs to migrate there?

If you are in the mood for some horror fiction of an entirely different style I suggest Hellstar Remina by the Japanese horror Author and artist Junji Ito.  It also features a very memorable rogue planet.

 

4 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I agree Sarah Palin, would be the perfect name for a Rogue Planet! Unfortunately, the MAGAs are here to stay. But IMO there is a possibility they may break ties with the Republican Party and hopefully follow Trump off the cliff standing next too!!!

Can we try and stay on topic please, this is not the US News and Politics forum.

Thank you.

[Alchopwn]

10 hours ago, Antigonos said:

Scientists have theorized there may be one causing the disturbances of objects in the Oort cloud. One even thinks there may have been one which was cast out of our solar system during its formation. Perhaps they are one and the same?

Ahh, the alleged planet Nibiru.  I have had a few conversations about this with Nephilim believers and Astronomers about this.  The issue is one of detecting perturbations in the orbits of known planets as an indication of the presence of other large sources of gravity in the area.  Unfortunately, it is not impossible that our ancestors encountered a rogue planet that slammed into the planet that became the asteroid belt, but if that is what happened, there is also every chance that it was a one-off rogue planet event and not a regular cycle imo.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

1 hour ago, Alchopwn said:

Ahh, the alleged planet Nibiru.  I have had a few conversations about this with Nephilim believers and Astronomers about this.  The issue is one of detecting perturbations in the orbits of known planets as an indication of the presence of other large sources of gravity in the area.  Unfortunately, it is not impossible that our ancestors encountered a rogue planet that slammed into the planet that became the asteroid belt, but if that is what happened, there is also every chance that it was a one-off rogue planet event and not a regular cycle imo.

Antigonos was not talking about Nibiru, he was talking about this:

https://www.popsci.com/science/planet-solar-system-oort-cloud/

 

[Alchopwn]

8 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

Antigonos was not talking about Nibiru, he was talking about this:

https://www.popsci.com/science/planet-solar-system-oort-cloud/

I guess I owe Antigonos an apology as I am aware that Nibiru has a certain kook flavor that I didn't intend to imply.  I only raise it as for a long time the whole rogue planet narrative was dominated by Nibiru nonsense.  To be fair, something dramatic created the asteroid belt.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

39 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

To be fair, something dramatic created the asteroid belt.

Jupiter created the asteroid belt. Its gravitational influence in that region is so great that it simply prevented large objects forming. As soon as planetesimals formed Jupiter ripped them apart again. Rather than being a planet that was destroyed the asteroid belt represents a planet that never got started.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 10/3/2023 at 1:01 AM, Alchopwn said:

I have always assumed that it was possible that planets could become orphaned from their solar systems.  Does this confirm that?

LINK:  nomad planets could outnumber stars by as many as 100,000 to 1.

They already knew that. What is new here is that they are traveling in pairs. Never saw that before. 

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The Milky Way likely hosts billions, and possibly trillions, of unbound planets, some of which may have atmospheres
thick enough to support bacterial life. Loose planets may even outnumber stars in the galaxy, but a more precise count
awaits future telescopes such as WFIRST and LSST.

Caltech/NASA

 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

21 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

Ahh, the alleged planet Nibiru.  I have had a few conversations about this with Nephilim believers and Astronomers about this.

If Nibiru exists, it is then, an orbited planet, not rogue.  

At one time, it may have been rogue and went breezing by this solar system in the perfect trajectory, so as to become orbited. 
But, be aware... Nibiru's orbit is 3,600 years and cuts through every planet's orbit in our solar system twice - on the way in, and on the way out. 
Our solar system is 4.5 billion years old. So if Nibiru has been here all along, that would be 1,250,000 orbits x 2, or 2.5 million chances to collide with 8 planets + Pluto + Asteroids.

So my belief is, if Nibiru exists, I would believe it to be a rogue planet that only recently drifted into orbit around our sun. 

Which ultimately means, I don't believe it exists  

 

[Waspie_Dwarf]

11 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Which ultimately means, I don't believe it exists

It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of evidence. The amount of evidence in support of Nibiru is absolutely zero. As you have pointed out, the amount of evidence suggesting that Nibiru not only doesn't, but can't exist is quite high. Therefore, on the balance of evidence, Nibiru does not exist.

All of which is irrelevant because this topic is NOT about Nibiru and @Alchopwnonly mentioned it mistakenly.

[Alchopwn]

5 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Which ultimately means, I don't believe it exists  

I don't believe in Nibiru either.  I am sorry I even raised the issue of goddamn Nibiru. SMH D'oh.